Laturalus will blow your mind (more than you already know)

Deaderman

Echoes wrote:

The hate homosexuals is actually derived from Leviticus, IIRC

In the end, my point is the same but thanks for correction.

kenny olav

frogwater wrote:

cool how you figured out the "true" song order of 'lateralus.'

But whoever spent all the time deciphering tool's little limericks could have saved a lot more time by just picking up the Bible, which is the ultimate blueprint for all mankind, and it contains the ONLY path to everlasting life, which is putting faith in Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.

Good day.

I'm still not getting how someone could be both Lord and Savior. Its like being Master and Abolitionist.

Echoes

How is it hard to understand that someone can save you and be your lord because of it?

I mean, I am not really that christian, but I can at least understand the phrase

kenny olav

It was a little hard to get thru that giant rambling paragraph, but I'm now very curious to check out this alternate order for Lateralus, which I feel is one of the most spellbinding and fulfilling albums out there.

kenny olav

Echoes wrote:

How is it hard to understand that someone can save you and be your lord because of it?

I mean, I am not really that christian, but I can at least understand the phrase

If being saved means giving your life away, then I guess it makes sense. 'Let go, and let God' - i heard it all growing up evangelical, but i don't buy it anymore.

citizendick

"Son, I don't understand I word you just said."

whatsthefreezer

Aenima's still better

gusturtle

whatsthefreezer wrote:

Aenima's still better

Agreed.

No matter what order you listen to the songs on "Lateralus," it still sounds like a Rush cover album, or worse, an Asia cover album.

Uninvited Guest

Aenima's still my favorite too but Lateralus is a great album and I can't wait until I get home to listen to this alternative track listing. It's going to be a pain listening to it on vinyl though. At least I should be able to make the tracks over lap in the right places.

HYLA

Everytime I see someone getting too deep in Tool, I am reminded of this:

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...Shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

Shwn

frogwater wrote:

cool how you figured out the "true" song order of 'lateralus.'

But whoever spent all the time deciphering tool's little limericks could have saved a lot more time by just picking up the Bible, which is the ultimate blueprint for all mankind, and it contains the ONLY path to everlasting life, which is putting faith in Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.

Good day.

You can't prove that you'll have eternal life by believing in Jesus anymore than you can prove that a hidden message for eternal life is in Lateralus. By the way, I don't think the intention was that a hidden meaning in Lateralus had anything to do with eternal life, just the lyrics in the song itself, which take the idea that everyone is in some way immortal in spiritual essence.

Poyndexter

pj_zombie wrote:

I only own Lateralus and don't find Tool one of my favorite bands but I must admit that's pretty cool. I can appreciate the amount of time they put to make something like that. Kind of makes me wonder what they'll come up with this new album since it's been another 5 years about.

If that the only Tool you own, get the others. I found Lat to be a disappointment. On another note, how the hell does one figure all that shit out without being an insider?

gusturtle

Shwn wrote:

You can't prove that you'll have eternal life by believing in Jesus anymore than you can prove that a hidden message for eternal life is in Lateralus.

You don't need proof when you have Faith. (Even though the Bible is written proof).

Good day, SHAWN.

escarina

You can find that sort of things all over Tool and APC's albums. Its the same with Thirteenth Step, changeng the order of the tracks and all. Same hidden meaning of eMOTIVe and aMOTION. There you have *motiv* and motion*, and if you change the initial letters you get *emotion* and *a motive*.

They just like to play with us:

kenny olav

frogwater wrote:

Agreed.

No matter what order you listen to the songs on "Lateralus," it still sounds like a Rush cover album, or worse, an Asia cover album.

well i guess it makes sense that i'm a huge Rush fan, and I think Lateralus is better...

viggs20

Kenny Olav wrote:

well i guess it makes sense that i'm a huge Rush fan, and I think Lateralus is better...

I'd venture to say thats its better than any Rush album.

kenny olav

viggs20 wrote:

I'd venture to say thats its better than any Rush album.

depends on what i'm in the mood for.

nothing beats the pure geeky joy of Rush.

and though danny carey is a close 2nd to neil peart, adam jones ain't got nothin on alex lifeson.

is maynard a better vocalist than geddy lee? sure. but i think geddy doesn't get enough credit. i think he's the only one who could make those dorkyass songs work. like the way he emotes on songs like manhatten project, time stand still, tai shan and bravado... its so unbridled, and yet flows with the melody and the mood of the music flawlessly.

and almost all of the compositions Rush came up with from the late 70s and throughout the 80s are nothing short of genius. either they make every fucking note and bit of percussion build the perfect crescendo, or they make syncronicity seem like blissful chaos.

that said, tool definately rocks harder. and lyric-wise... well... of course tool is better.

glasshouse

i couldnt care less for tool and their music
just like nirvana

U-R

this caused untold debate and grief and headaches on tool's chatroom/message board back in the day, this and a few similar things, some sensible, some anything but.

it's interesting. it does start venturing into the realm of "play dark side of the moon backwards watching the wizard of oz on 15 hits of acid and you'll find god man!" type territory, but if it is a perfect mathematical sequence (i don't know if it is or not) then you'd have to say that it wouldn't be by coincidence. the time signatures on some of the songs (the grudge especially) had this amature guitarists' fingers tied in knots that's for sure, but tool are the type of band that can do that, math formulas or otherwise.

another little thing from lateralus that i'd be quite confident was an intentional "mistake" was the spelling of the title track on the back cover. (lateralis instead of lateralus). this is probably old news but some may not have seen it: bLAck and whiTE aRe ALl I See

escarina

Digging about that, I think the original concequence of the tracks is the one mentioned above as *The Holy Gift* and then they just decided to record the cd and change their position at random. Of course, the one who discovers the Gift would think s/he discover sth crucial. Come on, it takes loads of time to create such riddles as those. And those who make them must be some Einsteins or sth.