Which upcoming album by these once-legendary bands will be a bigger disaster?
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Guns N' Roses - "Chinese Democracy"
The Smashing Pumpkins - "Zeitgeist"
I'm a huge fan of both bands, and it's beyond disappointing to see what they've become.
I've heard some of the leaked GNR tracks, and like some, especially "There Was A Time" (part of my sig). But I don't know if Chinese Democracy will be worth waiting more than a decade for. Their live shows have been getting good reviews, but they're heavy on GNR's older stuff.
As for TSP, I'm not sure. Since Billy writes all their stuff anyway, he has all he really needs for TSP (Jimmy Chamberlin). But Zwan was eh, and his solo record was a disaster. And how hard is it for BC or James Iha or D'Arcy to say "We're in the band/We're not in the band."? All signs point to them not being in, but since I haven't heard a "no", I'm not ruling it out.
It's also a joke for either of these bands to use their old names, given their current respective lineups. But maybe we'll be surprised.
The Smashing Pumpkins - "Zeitgeist"
I'm a huge fan of both bands, and it's beyond disappointing to see what they've become.
I've heard some of the leaked GNR tracks, and like some, especially "There Was A Time" (part of my sig). But I don't know if Chinese Democracy will be worth waiting more than a decade for. Their live shows have been getting good reviews, but they're heavy on GNR's older stuff.
As for TSP, I'm not sure. Since Billy writes all their stuff anyway, he has all he really needs for TSP (Jimmy Chamberlin). But Zwan was eh, and his solo record was a disaster. And how hard is it for BC or James Iha or D'Arcy to say "We're in the band/We're not in the band."? All signs point to them not being in, but since I haven't heard a "no", I'm not ruling it out.
It's also a joke for either of these bands to use their old names, given their current respective lineups. But maybe we'll be surprised.
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good point but I think if it's good it will go way farther than the pumpkins album-which is just a billy corgan cd under a differnt name.
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That being said, GNR will be a disaster...no original members excluding Axl, it just won't be the same.
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I disagree that the Pumpkins aren't relevant. If Corgan plays his guitar like he did on Gish and Siamese Dream, it will be relevant. Guitar work like that is timeless.
dude what about the pumpkins? It's the same thing
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Jimmy isn't an original member? I mean, i guess you could get technical and say that a drum machine was their original drummer but doesn't Chamberlain=drum machine anyway?
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Not quite. Even with the old Pumpkins, it was basically Billy Corgan doing everything but the drums. It will be pretty much the same this time around.
zwan was a totally different band where as they had a different sound... and billy's solo album was totally different too because he wanted it that way. if billy wanted to make an album all himself and release it as a solo album he could still make it sound like a smasking pumpkins album if he wanted.
so, that's the main reason they're called the smashing pumpkins... it will sound like the smashing pumpkins.
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Anyway, Axl Rose's dickishness has just risen since 10 years ago, so I have a big feeling it's gonna be horrible.
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i agree, i liked billy's solo album too.
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On the other hand, I CAN NOT WAIT for Chinese Dem. It will be surreal the day I buy that cd.
It was a disaster to me. I don't listen to it, or Zwan, that much.
That being said, I do look forward to Zeitgeist. Some Pumpkins is better than no Pumpkins.
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as for chinese democracy, I agree with the thread starter.......... seeing the setlists from recent shows aint too encouraging,,,like isnt there more new material to debut?
Well NIN have a constantly revolving line-up, but they are still considered NIN when they record and play live. Like someone else said, all they really need is Billy and Jimmy, it would be awesome to have James Iha back in the band, but I doubt it's gonna happen.
P.s The new Pumpkins record will be great - Billy's ready to rock again!
Trent IS NIN, just as Billy IS the Pumpkins. I am not too sure the Same can be said for Axl. He is just no where near as talented musically as either of them IMO.
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