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glasshouseglasshouse Posts: 1,762
edited February 2008 in Other Music
any Black Metal fans on this board?

I read up on Black Metal yesterday: holy shit you get some fucked up people.
burning churches, suicide, murder.......

one label which exclusively released black metal stated its mission as:
"distributing absolute evil in its most incarnate state"

apparently their was also a war (back in the early 90s) between Black Metal (fans + bands) and Death Metal (fans + bands) because the Black Metal society felt the Death Metal society wasn't evil enough. Motherfucker.

i wonder how people grow to hate that much.

I’m sure some of the music are extremely technical and enjoyable in some sense, but imo Black Metal is actually just an illustration of HOW fucked up some people really are.

ubber tragic imo.

This may get interesting.
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  • Gossard_Is_GodGossard_Is_God Posts: 1,031
    I love black metal

    Mayhem
    Emporer
    Burzum
    Celtic Frost
    Immortal
    Old Man's Child
    Venom
    Dimmu Borgir

    all greAt bands

    some see it as just noise but it can actually be very melodic, and good for getting anger out :)

    but remember...all you need is love :D
    Pearl Jam - London Astoria 20/4/06....One hell of a night :)

    Reading 2006 - WOOOOW!!!!!

    Paris 2006 - Fucking amazing

    Wembley 2007 :D
  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    I listen to it. I find the genre fascinating. Probably half the music I purchase now has BM elements to it. There is an intensity to it that isn't matched.

    Bands that I have been listening to recently are:

    Xasthur
    Wolves in the Throne Room
    Watain
    Summoning

    Perhaps the greatest piece of music I have purchased in the past year has been Amesoeurs. they have a 3 song EP out that I once listened to for 3 1/2 hours in one day. I am borderline obsessed with them. It has BM vocals with a more straight up metal music delivery. The fucked up thing is that the 3rd song could fit nicely on a Cranberries CD. they some how made this all fit together.

    This is their MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/amesoeurs

    I don't expect anybody to go there however this 3rd track (Faiblesse Des Sens) will play once you get there. If one listens to that (the scream she gives at the 3:50 mark and ends at 3:56? fuck yes) and then their other track up there Ruines Humaines you will see the contrast I am talking about. This shit gives me chills.
  • Super VedderSuper Vedder Posts: 1,531
    http://www.myspace.com/amesoeurs

    although im pretty certain this is gonna disturb me im gonna give it a listen when i get home!!! A further report will follow..........;)
    Black, the greatest without a doubt........
  • Unbelievable21Unbelievable21 Posts: 35
    It's DM, not BM, but I'm really getting into Opeth, as of late. And that backs up the whole DM isn't evil enough, because none of Opeth's lyrics are about anger and hate. Mostly, they're about sorrow and pain:

    Bleak (Song Title)

    Beating
    Heart still beating for the cause
    Feeding
    Soul still feeding from the loss
    Aching
    Limbs are aching from the rush
    Fading
    You are fading from my sight

    Break of morning, coldness lingers on
    Shroud me into nightmares of the sun
    Moving
    I am moving closer to your side
    Luring
    You are luring me into the night
    Crying
    Who is crying for you here
    Dying
    I am dying fast inside your tears
    Plunging towards bereavement faster yet
    Clearing thoughts, my mind is set

    Devious movements in your eyes
    Moved me from relief
    Breath comes out white clouds with your lies
    And filters through me
    You're close to the final word
    You're staring right past me in dismay
    A liquid seeps from your chest
    And drains me away
    Mist ripples round your thin white neck
    And draws me a line
    Cold fingers mark this dying wreck
    This moment is mine

    Help me cure you
    Atone for all you've done
    Help me leave you
    As all the days are gone
    Night fall again
    Taking what's left of me
    Slight twist, shivering corpse
    Ornated with water, fills the cracks
    Clasped in my lims by tradition
    This is all you need

    Amazing song.
    But, besides that, I don't indulge into either genre- the growling bugs me (and Opeth does both Growling and Clean, and does it damn well, so it's okay). I'm into the almighty Progressive Metal- Dream Theater and Evergrey (and Opeth, actually. They're Progressive Death Metal) for the win!
  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    Super Vedder wrote:
    http://www.myspace.com/amesoeurs

    although im pretty certain this is gonna disturb me im gonna give it a listen when i get home!!! A further report will follow..........;)
    cool :)

    there is no chance Faiblesse Des Sans will, if you love anything by The Cure/Joy Division, you will love this. In addition it has a bass line to die for (think Love Song). This doesn't fit into metal at all which is why I find this EP so fascinating.

    Now Ruines Humaines may, it has a harsh vocal delivery, try to think of it as another instrument. But the music is not over the top by any stretch.

    Opeth is actually a very good introductory band into this genre as it combines plenty of various metal genres (this band is mindboggling good).

    This documentary is pretty cool.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=i4U33U_UyzQ
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=KSUmKubFIUY
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=VNN-ZnYg1Vo
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=dRTHzR2Pxro
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=avnsgYvHPK8

    If looks could kill, the last part (part 5) the final 2 minutes would do the trick.
  • Matt LukinMatt Lukin Posts: 647
    All hail the Valnøtt!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WcsV7hQ1V4
    The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel
    And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Burzum are essentially my favourite band at the moment. Words can't express how good Hvis Lyset Tar Oss is. I don't even care if Varg is a murderer, his music is incredible. It is my niche metal and the genre that I turn to when i want that little bit more extremity in my music.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Super VedderSuper Vedder Posts: 1,531
    transplant wrote:
    cool :)

    there is no chance Faiblesse Des Sans will, if you love anything by The Cure/Joy Division, you will love this. In addition it has a bass line to die for (think Love Song). This doesn't fit into metal at all which is why I find this EP so fascinating.

    Now Ruines Humaines may, it has a harsh vocal delivery, try to think of it as another instrument. But the music is not over the top by any stretch.

    Opeth is actually a very good introductory band into this genre as it combines plenty of various metal genres (this band is mindboggling good).

    This documentary is pretty cool.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=i4U33U_UyzQ
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=KSUmKubFIUY
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=VNN-ZnYg1Vo
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=dRTHzR2Pxro
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=avnsgYvHPK8

    If looks could kill, the last part (part 5) the final 2 minutes would do the trick.

    I concur you were absolutely right, Faiblesse Des Sans is a nice little track BUT then Ruines Humaines has a horrible noise/singer on it, Eurgh!

    I know i will probably never be able to understand BUT why do people like that gorgoroth thing? It just sounds like a horrible noise to me, perhaps someone could explain why they find it to be particularly appealing? Is it just people who are into devil worship and all crazy shit like that who are into it? :o

    I mean no offence to people who do like it, i just cant get my head round WHY they like it? :confused:
    Black, the greatest without a doubt........
  • Super VedderSuper Vedder Posts: 1,531
    transplant wrote:

    If looks could kill, the last part (part 5) the final 2 minutes would do the trick.

    What was his problem?? He just sort of stared at a bit of an angle for two minutes then had a swig of wine, he hardly looked threatening :)
    Black, the greatest without a doubt........
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Oh and I forgot to mention that Tomhet by Burzum is the best ambient song ever.

    Eno can go and bite a steer's arse as far as I'm concerned.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • YefaYefa Posts: 1,133
    I'll second Xasthur for black metal and Opeth for progressive death metal.

    Enslaved and Satyricon are two great black metal bands from Norway.

    A great Swedish black metal band is called Bergraven.
    http://www.myspace.com/bergraven

    Check out a band called Deathspell Omega as well. A fan page is linked below.
    http://www.myspace.com/deathspellomega

    Alcest is a band that is related to Amesoeurs.
    http://www.myspace.com/alcestmusic
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  • SathogwaSathogwa Posts: 227
    . . . Into the Woods is pretty great also. Black metal with pagan/heathen, prog, and psychedelic elements.
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  • YefaYefa Posts: 1,133
    Sathogwa wrote:
    . . . Into the Woods is pretty great also. Black metal with pagan/heathen, prog, and psychedelic elements.

    Do you have a link for this band? They sound interesting. I googled them & got links about the Sondheim musical. I looked for them on the Encyclopaedia Metallum (linked below) but didn't find a listing.

    http://www.metal-archives.com
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  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    Yefa wrote:
    Alcest is a band that is related to Amesoeurs.
    http://www.myspace.com/alcestmusic
    I put Souvenirs D'un Autre Monde as my favorite CD of 2007. Just a couple days ago I finally got to listen to Le Secret and their 2001 demo Treistesse Hivernale.

    I need to listen to Deathspell Omega, have heard nothing but great things.
  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    Super Vedder wrote:
    What was his problem?? He just sort of stared at a bit of an angle for two minutes then had a swig of wine, he hardly looked threatening :)
    at the 8:50 mark and later at the 9:15. He had a look that he wanted to cut the guys head off. He had issue with how the interviewer was asking questions. when the interviewer said "guide me", oh my, that was it. I kept thinking about how he was imprisoned for torturing a guy over a 3 day? period. they couldn't get it out of him but supposedly he made the guy drink his own blood. that with the fact he probably had a few glasses of wine just made me think how uncomfortable those guys must have been. Probably glad to get the hell out of there.

    Anyway, cheers for giving that a listen!
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    These guys are essentially Vikings, having a cultural heritage that is very different to the familiar Judeo-Christian one. They live in cold remote places, and have fewer outlets for their adolescent anger. The church burnings etc were pretty normal for a bunch of Viking lads. Not everyone goes for the whole Jesus/heaven thing. Some of them, will be just plain old sociopaths, giving the whole genre a bad name. In the US they would be in a street or bike gang, or be quiet serial killers, in Ireland, they would join the IRA, the UK footie thugs, in Oz they would be bikies, druggies or politicians.
    There are nutters in every society.
    Not excusing, just explaining.
    Personally I love Opeth, getting into them over the last few months. Akerveldt is a pretty mellow guy, just totally ionto his music. generally I don't like cookie monster vocals much, but he uses it so effectively, it really works. He does sing as well. "Ghost Reveries" is probably my favourite, Blackwater Park, Still Life, it's all good.
    Haen't gotteninto anything else, but the guitar heavy, rhythmic Viking warrior vibe to the whole thing is right up my alley. If I was a kid today, that would be my scene through and through. There sure ain't much else out there to love.
    Music is not a competetion.
  • MishralMishral Posts: 211
    I am a fan of black metal. Also death metal.
    I´ve been that since long before i started listen to Pearl Jam.

    The music has such strong feelings. You can feel it when you listen to the music. At least the best bands have it.
    I think thats why I like it so much.
    It´s like the same with Pearl Jam. Without their ability to put feelings into music, they wouldn´t be much more than an average rock band.
    And they sure wouldn´t have all these fans.
    "The things you own will end up owning you"
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