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Audioslave - Chris Cornell's feelings

yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
edited December 2005 in Other Music
So I was listening to Audioslave today, and I was just wondering how Chris feels from playing with an awesome drummer, Matt Cameron, in Soundgarden, to Brad Wilk, who in my opinion sucks at drums. Just a thought.
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  • shahrilshahril Posts: 288
    why does wilk suck?
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  • thebettermanthebetterman Posts: 657
    well in my opinion, brad wilk is a really good drummer, so i dont know.
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  • EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    He's fucking awful. Meg White -bad

    "Boom boom tik" Is all you ever hear from him.
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  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    shahril wrote:
    why does wilk suck?

    If he sucks, it shouldn't Wilt. Oh... Wilk, not wilt.
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  • thebettermanthebetterman Posts: 657
    Echoes wrote:
    He's fucking awful. Meg White -bad

    "Boom boom tik" Is all you ever hear from him.

    meg whites drumming is perfect for the white stripes.
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  • whatsthefreezerwhatsthefreezer Posts: 347
    Well he chose to be in a band with him so I guess he likes his drumming. Personally I'm not crazy about his playing either but oh well. All of those guys were better in their old bands.
  • BinauralBinaural Posts: 1,046
    His drumming suits the band. Have you ever heard him outside the band, playing other pieces he's written or pieces from other artists? If not then you have no basis for judgement. A good musician serves the song not their own ego.






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  • bluemonkeybluemonkey Posts: 198
    wow,i guess i was way off then...i thought brad wilk was a very good drummer.
  • pjfan020pjfan020 Posts: 426
    I've always thought his drumming suited the music perfectly.
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  • thankyougrandmathankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    yosi wrote:
    So I was listening to Audioslave today, and I was just wondering how Chris feels from playing with an awesome drummer, Matt Cameron, in Soundgarden, to Brad Wilk, who in my opinion sucks at drums. Just a thought.

    wow, Brad Wilk kick ass, not in Audioslave though, that i agree, but if you listen to Rage, i don't know if Matt as ever played as good as Brad...
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    I have listened to Rage, and have heard Wilk's drumming there, and I think that it too is very simplistic. Not surprisingly because for a large part it is the same style music (not vocals obviously). And you are right, I can't say what he is capable of doing outside these two bands, but I think that he isn't a good drummer, because I find his drumming incredibly simplistic, for music that isn't always. I find that if he were a more interesting(/talented ?) drummer, the music would sound much better. Also, its possible that Cornell didn't choose to play with him, just the other guys were comfortable continuing with him, and Cornell just didn't get any say.
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  • pearl jam rulespearl jam rules Posts: 129
    wilk isn't horrible but he's not great. he keeps things simple, which i respect, but a lot of times i wish he'd do something a little more interesting to add to the songs. and i don't always agree with what cymbals he uses or where/when he decides to ride on his crash cymbal. i guess those are minor complaints. he doesn't really detract anything from the music so i can't say that he sucks
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,025
    The drums and the bass just lay down the beat. It's the guitars that are the music!
  • LedZepFanLedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    wow, Brad Wilk kick ass, not in Audioslave though, that i agree, but if you listen to Rage, i don't know if Matt as ever played as good as Brad...


    Gotta agree there although I dont know if Id say Cameron loses to Wilk so easily. One song..."Jesus Christ Pose"
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    LedZepFan wrote:
    Gotta agree there although I dont know if Id say Cameron loses to Wilk so easily. One song..."Jesus Christ Pose"

    JCP is sick. Drums are so effing tight. I'd say Matt kicks Wilk's ass any day of the week.
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  • ucsbucsb Posts: 58
    yosi wrote:
    So I was listening to Audioslave today, and I was just wondering how Chris feels from playing with an awesome drummer, Matt Cameron, in Soundgarden, to Brad Wilk, who in my opinion sucks at drums. Just a thought.


    Yeah I think he sucks too.....but for rage i thought he was perfect.....they just needed someone who could bash the shit out of stuff...and let the music sound "big"....and it totally worked...I think Matt's stuff was better with soundgarden..it was very unique...his playing with pearljam just doesnt really do it for me......live he is really good though!
  • shahrilshahril Posts: 288
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    The drums and the bass just lay down the beat. It's the guitars that are the music!

    oh no......listen to Vs... and Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

    those are 2 of my fav drummers
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    yeah, matt's way better. i think brad made a more valiant effort on the 2nd audioslave album... which is to say... he made an effort.

    he was better with rage too.
  • SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    yosi wrote:
    to Brad Wilk, who in my opinion sucks at drums.
    :eek: WHAT THE DEVIL????!!!! :eek:
    BRAD IS FREAKIN' BADDA$$......HE'S THE ONLY REASON I LIKE AUDIOSLAVE!!!!
    OH BUT YOU DID SAY IT WAS YOUR "OPINION"......:D
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  • stonesgstringstonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    Well Chris started off a drummer so he must know if Brad is any good surely!! I like his drumming, it's perfect for Audioslave's music.
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  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    Jesus Christ, if what you care about are crazy fills and difficult beats and time signatures you really shouldn't be listening to rock and roll. That's not what makes a drummer "good" anyway.
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  • BUENABUENA Posts: 165
    thebetterman wrote:
    meg whites drumming is perfect for the white stripes.


    I have nothing against meg. Ever drummer is at a different skill level. Meg's sloppy barely in time playing works for what jack does.
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  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    thebetterman wrote:
    meg whites drumming is perfect for the white stripes.
    just like Wilk is perfect for RATM and audioslave.

    Cameron is amazing.. but that's no reason to say the other 2 are bad.
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  • El Riot ActorEl Riot Actor Posts: 246
    yosi wrote:
    I have listened to Rage, and have heard Wilk's drumming there, and I think that it too is very simplistic. Not surprisingly because for a large part it is the same style music (not vocals obviously). And you are right, I can't say what he is capable of doing outside these two bands, but I think that he isn't a good drummer, because I find his drumming incredibly simplistic, for music that isn't always. I find that if he were a more interesting(/talented ?) drummer, the music would sound much better. Also, its possible that Cornell didn't choose to play with him, just the other guys were comfortable continuing with him, and Cornell just didn't get any say.

    I think Brad Wilk has an awesome funky powerfull style and i thank him for keeping it simple, to me he is further proof that most of the time simple is best. Plus he connects really well with the bass and together they make an awesome rythim section that's funky and powerful.
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    hailhail82 wrote:
    Jesus Christ, if what you care about are crazy fills and difficult beats and time signatures you really shouldn't be listening to rock and roll. That's not what makes a drummer "good" anyway.

    First of all, I never said that all I care about was 'crazy fills and difficult beats and time signatures'. I just said I find Wilk over simplistic, and wish he would do more. Second, what pray tell makes a good drummer? I have been playing the drums for close to ten years, and I have heard some good drumming that is not all about crazy time signatures and fills, that is still good. One example, in my opinion is Eric Kretz of Stone Temple Pilots. That is what I call not flashy drumming but still good. And who the hell are you to tell me what kind of music I should be listening too?
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