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What a homophobic prick...

Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
edited November 2008 in Other Music
I'm referring to the rapper Trick Trick, who doesn't want homosexuals buying his records.....

http://www.nme.com/news/Trick+Trick/41010
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  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Well I'm not homophobic and I'll never buy a record by a guy called 'Trick Trick' anyway. ;)

    Seriously though, no surprise that a rapper is homophobic. Loads of them are, as are a shitload of ragga artists.
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  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Well I'm not homophobic and I'll never buy a record by a guy called 'Trick Trick' anyway. ;)

    Seriously though, no surprise that a rapper is homophobic. Loads of them are, as are a shitload of ragga artists.


    True.

    I guess stuff like this still shocks me a little....
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    True.

    I guess stuff like this still shocks me a little....

    I watched a documentary which highlighted the homophobia in ragga music. They interviewed a bloke called Method Man.... one of his songs is called something like 'Burn the Batty Man'.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    He's just an ignorant fool - and until I read this, I didn't even know who this guy was.

    The irony is that the potential exposure the mass media may give him for making these comments will drive sales with the controversy curiousity crowd. That even includes message board posts like your Crop...few of us would even know about this without your post. And the mass media would be unlikely to pick up on it without the buzz that may come from message boards and blogs.

    Let's not forget that everytime any controversial album, movie or show is released, the audience grows exponentially AFTER it starts to be reported. This is how early releases from NWA and 2-Live Crew, for example, went platinum with virtually no radio or video support and little fanbase outside their local markets.
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  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Shawn Smith Collective wrote:
    He's just an ignorant fool - and until I read this, I didn't even know who this guy was.

    The irony is that the potential exposure the mass media may give him for making these comments will drive sales with the controversy curiousity crowd. That even includes message board posts like your Crop...few of us would even know about this without your post. And the mass media would be unlikely to pick up on it without the buzz that may come from message boards and blogs.

    Let's not forget that everytime any controversial album, movie or show is released, the audience grows exponentially AFTER it starts to be reported. This is how early releases from NWA and 2-Live Crew, for example, went platinum with virtually no radio or video support and little fanbase outside their local markets.

    Hmm.. seems like a lot of effort to go to. Why not just make music which isn't shit? ;)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I watched a documentary which highlighted the homophobia in ragga music. They interviewed a bloke called Method Man.... one of his songs is called something like 'Burn the Batty Man'.

    You mean Beenie Man
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  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Hmm.. seems like a lot of effort to go to. Why not just make music which isn't shit? ;)


    Haha! I"m not saying this was their promotion plan...I'm just saying highlighting it has always proven to promote it. This has been going for decades. Sales increase drastically whenever the media or some watchdog group takes off with some controversy issue.

    Tipper Gore wanted Parental Advisory stickers to curb sales and labels couldn't wait to put the sticker on their releases because it drove sales. C. Delores Tucker and others destroy cd's in the streets, and people can't wait to find out what was on those cd's that caused all the ruckus. Ozzy, Marilyn Manson, Eminem...the list goes on forever. Hell, even Elvis benefited from the controversy factor!

    I'm just saying, let's ignore these stupid fucks instead of walking them to a soapbox and handing them a megaphone.
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  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Shawn Smith Collective wrote:
    That even includes message board posts like your Crop...few of us would even know about this without your post. .


    It's kinda catch 22, as it could be argued that shit like this should not be ignored and accepted in the 21st century.....
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    It's kinda catch 22, as it could be argued that shit like this should not be ignored and accepted in the 21st century.....

    I do agree with you on that. Shit like this shouldn't even exist in the 21st century. :(
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  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Shawn Smith Collective wrote:
    I do agree with you on that. Shit like this shouldn't even exist in the 21st century. :(

    Gives hip hop a bad name too.....
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I watched a documentary which highlighted the homophobia in ragga music. They interviewed a bloke called Method Man.... one of his songs is called something like 'Burn the Batty Man'.
    I think you're getting confused. Method Man is a New York rapper from the Wu-Tang Clan, not a ragga artist. You're thinking of Beenie man.

    To be honest, it's rife in Jamaica as a cultural thing, especially amongst these musicians who practice rastafarianism. Until things change on a much bigger scale, these sentiments aren't offensive to them, they're just staying true to their faith. It's wrong but they're ignorant and unenlightened, not evil.
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  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    Gives hip hop a bad name too.....

    Yeah it does. Although that's part of my argument about racism (let me just note that I'm not calling you a racist, lol). If this guy was a rockstar, it'd be chalked up to HIM being a homephobic prick, but few people would be talking about it giving rock n roll a bad name. But controversial rap always seems to take on life as being representative of all rap and hip-hop culture...and ultimately, black people. Same happens with pro athletes, actors, and soon enough: presidents.
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  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Shawn Smith Collective wrote:
    You mean Beenie Man

    Ah yes. My bad.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I think you're getting confused. Method Man is a New York rapper from the Wu-Tang Clan, not a ragga artist. You're thinking of Beenie man.

    Yep. As I said, my mistake. :)
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    To be honest, it's rife in Jamaica as a cultural thing, especially amongst these musicians who practice rastafarianism. Until things change on a much bigger scale, these sentiments aren't offensive to them, they're just staying true to their faith. It's wrong but they're ignorant and unenlightened, not evil.

    Yeah but faith is one thing. I was born into an Evangelical Christian family so I know their views. These song titles are outright miltantism.. 'Burn the Batty Man?' Sounds like the KKK. Seems to go way beyond ignorance, no? I mean I've known Christians who are unhappy with homosexual practice but no-one I know is looking to burn them at the stake.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Shawn Smith Collective wrote:
    But controversial rap always seems to take on life as being representative of all rap and hip-hop culture...and ultimately, black people. Same happens with pro athletes, actors, and soon enough: presidents.

    I 100% agree with you.... :)

    As a fan of hip hop myself, that's why incidents like this are particularly grinding.....
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    "It's just that every time that you turn on the TV, that sissy shit is on, and they act like it's fucking okay," he said. "The world is changing for the worst when shit like that happens. And I address that issue. I address it hard as hell."

    Maybe He should have graduated Elementary school before he started running his mouth. The world is changing for the worsT?
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  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    I 100% agree with you.... :)

    As a fan of hip hop myself, that's why incidents like this are particularly grinding.....

    Most def. One of the incidents that's always gotten to me is the need to identify Body Count's (awful) heavy metal song, Cop Killer, as "rapper Ice-T's Cop Killer."

    You're so right though...once this grows legs, it will be awful for hip-hop. :(
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  • zacman13245zacman13245 Posts: 294
    ugh, i really hate ignorance. :(
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  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I didn't know Batty meant that?
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  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    South of Seattle wrote:
    I didn't know Batty meant that?

    'Batty Boy' or 'Batty Man' is a 'gangsta' slang term for a gay man in Jamaica and England.. I'm not sure it's used in USA though.

    'Batty' to me means the original thing... nuts or crazy... a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,096
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Hmm.. seems like a lot of effort to go to. Why not just make music which isn't shit? ;)

    in a nutshell - you sir have hit the nail on the head
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