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musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited April 2007 in Other Music
Why do people always talk about this band like they are a frat boys favorite band?

Do you really think at some crazy frat party, that they would rock out to some songs off Under the Table and Dreaming or Crash?

Plus the band is all about things the typical frat boy is completely against. They are activists, support social causes and are pro-environment, anti-mysogynistic, pro-racial unity.

A frat boy or a fraternity in general is in my mind, a group of macho, anti-female, prorape group of individuals whose sole existence is to get drunk and take advantade of women

Why do people link Dave Matthews and frat boys?
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  • pearljam0000pearljam0000 Posts: 450
    Cheguevara6 wrote:

    Why do people link Dave Matthews and frat boys?

    Go to one of their concerts and find out. That being said I love DMB.
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    They're a band to kind of chill out to while drinking a beer throwing the frisbee/football around i guess. Same w/ OAR. I love DMB though. Apparently at their shows there is a large gathering of "frat boys" too. I have yet to get out to a DMB show as i always spend my summer money on PJ concerts :)
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  • SLH916SLH916 Posts: 132
    I hate to say it, but a DMB concert is a great place for fratboys to meet girls.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    I had always assumed they had a "hippie" following, that the people who attend the DMB concerts are similar to those people who attend String Cheese or Widespread Panic. As I said, the term frat boy or frat is synonomous with negative things and negative actions. And from my reading, Dave Matthews Band while often bashed on this forum, isnt a group of drunk jerks who abuse women and so on. They represent peace love and unity, at least through their lyrics and social causes. They are very pearl jam esque in their practices as well. They seem to be more about the music and the message than the money and fame. They push an agenda just as Pearl Jam pushes one, but I dont think that makes them bad

    Basically what I am trying to say is, I always thought their fans were dreadlocked patchuoli drenched hippies.
  • SLH916SLH916 Posts: 132
    Cheguevara6 wrote:
    I had always assumed they had a "hippie" following, that the people who attend the DMB concerts are similar to those people who attend String Cheese or Widespread Panic. As I said, the term frat boy or frat is synonomous with negative things and negative actions. And from my reading, Dave Matthews Band while often bashed on this forum, isnt a group of drunk jerks who abuse women and so on. They represent peace love and unity, at least through their lyrics and social causes. They are very pearl jam esque in their practices as well. They seem to be more about the music and the message than the money and fame. They push an agenda just as Pearl Jam pushes one, but I dont think that makes them bad

    Basically what I am trying to say is, I always thought their fans were dreadlocked patchuoli drenched hippies.

    You haven't been to a DMB concert have you?
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    no i havent been to one. Always wanted to. But am I crazy for thinking what I just posted? I mean, they are obviously into political ideas and stuff, they even have a Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor, in those crazy merchendise pages included in every DMB cd: dave suggested that people and fans should support industrial hemp as it is a useful thing. Although they arent really a jam band they seem to be lumped into the Jam Band scene, and the jam band scene is notoriously a hippie place or hippie haven.

    I dont know, thats interesting though. I mean go to a String Cheese show, and the crowd there has a certain look, and feel and feeling. I always assumed that was the same crowd and feeling at a DMB show.

    I have read quite a few interviews with Dave and he is outspoken politically, after 9/11 he said something about that he felt ashamed to be called an american when people were lumping "immigrants" and "non immigrants" into categories. he said "we all are immigrants, except the natives of course". he was on the VFC tour and such. Their lyrics have a hippie vibe...so I just assumed
  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    Cheguevara6 wrote:
    Plus the band is all about things the typical frat boy is completely against. They are activists, support social causes and are pro-environment, anti-mysogynistic, pro-racial unity.

    The band is also 60% black. The fan base isn't exactly representative of that either.
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  • LiftedLifted Posts: 1,836
    this has nothing to do with frat boys, which a lot of them do attend dmb shows...but it has more to do with their fan base in general. not saying if you like dmb you have bad taste, they are great musicians (i personally don't care for them), but has anyone else felt like the majority of the major dmb fanatics seem to have somewhat of a boring taste in music. a lot of them don't seem to have that much of an appreciation for your classic straight up guitar driven rock music.

    DON'T GET OFFENDED IF YOU'RE A DMB FAN, I'M SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF YOU THAT ENJOY LARGE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF ROCK, i'm just saying a lot of the ones i've encountered.....well if i was given their cd collection it would probably be going straight to the used record store.
  • SigEpCougarSigEpCougar Posts: 96
    I was a frat boy back in the day...and I hated DMB....still do...With that being said, the whole frat boy stereotype is kinda outdated. I dunno, maybe im just open minded.
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  • NothinGBetteRPJMaNNothinGBetteRPJMaN Posts: 530
    I agree strongly with what Tiki said.

    DMB shows do have a fairly large "frat boy" grouping

    And frat boys dont care all that much about music or DMB's music,
    they dont really care about dave and his beliefs/stances. . They listen to it because it is whats cool for a frat guy to listen to. from my experience, when people i know talk about a Dave concert, they mostly talk about the alcohol. Even the girls. "Im going to the Dave concert tonight, and i am going to be sooooo wasted." they never say anything about the music itself. Its basically just an event to get wasted at...nothing else.

    And Im not saying this is a typical DMB fan. I am saying this is a typical DMB frat boy fan

    they dont really care about dave and his beliefs/stances.
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  • mpg82mpg82 Posts: 83
    Yeah the concerts are full of frat boys but big deal. I care more about the music than i do the people that are going to be there. DMB are very talented musicians. Carter Beauford is one of the best drummers around. I could care less about politics and the crowd, I just want to see a good show.
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  • SLH916SLH916 Posts: 132
    Not many bands ever get to be as popular as Dave has been. When you're that popular, there is a kind of herd mentality that kicks in. A Dave concert is the place to go to get drunk and look for girls.

    It's not a reflection on Dave. The String Cheese Incident have never had to deal with this type of mainstream popularity.

    It was the same way at Bruce concerts back in the mid-80's, not so much anymore.
  • SathogwaSathogwa Posts: 227
    I don't think your crazy for thinking that DMB would attract deadheads rather than frat boys. But like someone else stated I think DMB is music a lot of frat guys like to chill out and drink beer to, not much else. I think it also gives thime a "sensitive by proxy" image which makes it easier to take advantage of girls.

    I read somewhere that when DMB played the Vote for Change shows they had some of their "typical audience" members show up and boo and yell things like "Shut up and just play music!" when Dave would start talking about his leftist political views. Supposedly he replied, "You knew what kind of concert this was for when you came here." Morons.
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  • deadmosquitodeadmosquito Posts: 729
    yeah, the amount of "fratboys" and "sorority girls" who go to these shows is a little outlandish, and really ruins the chance for any non-warehouse fan to get a good seat, but i guess it's just to be expected.

    and for what it's worth, there are a ton of these same people at PJ shows too. you know who they are because they talk during the binaural songs and only participate in songs from ten. but hey, live music's still fucking great, so its easier to just take these people and their crazy drunken stupidity with a grain of salt. they just wanna have a good time too i guess.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    deadmosquito wrote:
    yeah, the amount of "fratboys" and "sorority girls" who go to these shows is a little outlandish, and really ruins the chance for any non-warehouse fan to get a good seat, but i guess it's just to be expected.

    and for what it's worth, there are a ton of these same people at PJ shows too. you know who they are because they talk during the binaural songs and only participate in songs from ten. but hey, live music's still fucking great, so its easier to just take these people and their crazy drunken stupidity with a grain of salt. they just wanna have a good time too i guess.

    well said.....having been to 13 shows i can say there is a heavy "frat boy" contingent.........the ones that show up in matching t-shirts with different band names on the back are my favorite......i hope that is a hazing thing ;).......but you also have the hippie types........even many pj fans judging by the number of t-shirts i saw at a recent show..:).........i can't really complain about the frat boys all that much anymore since one of them got me really high at a show last year.....:p
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