Was Nirvana really part of the Grunge scene

shahril

Richy_Faceliftology wrote:

Wikipedia is actually a brilliant site...its has everything!

yeah its unreal... i spend way too much time there... should get back to ebaumsworld and jokaroo soon..
hehe

enharmonic

Considering that grunge was a marketing term and not a scene...no, Nirvana was not part of a "grunge" scene. That is what they were called by the bean counters in order to sell records.

shahril

enharmonic wrote:

Considering that grunge was a marketing term and not a scene...no, Nirvana was not part of a "grunge" scene. That is what they were called by the bean counters in order to sell records.

grunge was not 100% a marketing tool. it has its roots in the fact that the 'pure' grunge bands were seattle based. for me, also, grunge wasnt so much the sound, but the attitude that conveyed so much sincerity and honesty in the music. a fuck all attitude, but one that always had integrity in mind. And for that, an aspect of grunge, in fact the most important one for me personally, will always live among those who hold true to those principles. In that respect, pearl jam are every bit as grunge now as they were before.

melrn

shahril wrote:

grunge was not 100% a marketing tool. it has its roots in the fact that the 'pure' grunge bands were seattle based. for me, also, grunge wasnt so much the sound, but the attitude that conveyed so much sincerity and honesty in the music. a fuck all attitude, but one that always had integrity in mind. And for that, an aspect of grunge, in fact the most important one for me personally, will always live among those who hold true to those principles. In that respect, pearl jam are every bit as grunge now as they were before.

Don't forget the flannel.

Grunge is a fashion style. Like it or hate it, there's no disputing it.

Grunge=flannel

BUENA

shahril wrote:

i thought of posting this on The Porch since it does have a heavy connection to PJ but hey, we all know about the self righteous bunch around here..

anyhow, i somehow get the picture that Nirvana as a band was really bigger than the scene itself. dont get me wrong i think theyre major-ly overrated, but did they let the success get to their heads and stuff? Did they hang out with the other big 3 at least (PJ, SG, AIC) the way those 3 bands evidently were 'fond' of one another. u know, watching each other's shows (or was that only during the really early days?) and TOTD etc etc?

just wanted to know more cos I am a relatively late Jammer, being born in 85. im more gen Y than X i suppose. heh. when i first got into pj i was real eager to know about how the seattle/grunge scene was then i realised it may have taken precedence over the music. anyways, help from old school jammers with 3 kids? please?

Many douchebags on this site will say that nirvana was over rated and not apart of the "seattle scene"... however, they were. I don't know if they were close to any bands but I do remember seeing a lot of Nirvana vs. Pearl Jam stuff. Kurt always used to shoot his mouth off.

but make no mistake... Nevermind was (and still is) a great record. For a brief moment in time it opened the door to a lot of new bands and killed off a lot of lame ones.

reeferchief

melrn wrote:

Don't forget the flannel.

Grunge is a fashion style. Like it or hate it, there's no disputing it.

Grunge=flannel

Grunge is just so loose of a music label its slack, i think a better question is what is grunge? its so blurred its unreal at the time it was said that Spin Doctors and 4 Non Blondes were grunge, due to there fashion sense, the flannel shirts are pretty much the one thing that links every band ever to be called grunge.

if you were to say grunge was the seattle scene, where does that leave Stone Temple Pilots? honoury Grungers.

I much prefer the term alternative rock its much more accepting to a wider audience, and yes i do have 3 kids:D