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Rating the Shows You've Attended

merlin401merlin401 Posts: 216
edited June 2008 in The Porch
Curious to see how people would rate the shows they've personally attended on the following scale. Try not to be biased!

The scale is this:
EPIC - Shows that are remembered forever even by the people who didn't go to them (think Randalls Island, etc) (maybe 1% of shows)
SPECIAL - The rare unusually amazing/rare/unique shows from each tour (maybe 5-10% of shows)
GOOD - The above average shows, (probably I'd say 35% of shows)
AVERAGE - Good, but overall its going to be a show that blends in with a lot of other shows on the tour (another 35% or so)
SUBPAR - Still great but for a Pearl Jam show nothing that was particularly inspiring (bottom 20% of shows)


Obviously this works best for people like me who haven't seen 50 billion shows. But whoever wants to play along, I'd love to see how people rate the shows they've been to as honestly as possible.

Here's mine:

Jones Beach II, 2000: AVERAGE (still my all time favorite ItsOK tho, IMO better than Virginia)
Holmdel, 2003: SPECIAL (Hunger Strike re-debuts, 3 encores, Wash, chronological set-list, etc)
Camden I, 2006: AVERAGE (2nd encore of Blood, Comatose, Even Flow, Leash, SOLAT WOW!!!)
East Rutherford II, 2006: GOOD (Dont Give me no lip, Hard to Imagine, In Hiding, Rats, most songs on tour)
Gorge I, 2006: SPECIAL (borderline epic) (Wash, Crown of thorns, mamason trilogy, Great Its ok tag, DIRTY FRANK re-debuts!)
Gorge II, 2006: GOOD (overshadowed by first night: Little Wing full, great Fuckin up, Rats, Satans Bed)
MSG I, 2008: SPECIAL (incredible crowd, 3rd encore of Watchtower & Indifference!, I believe in Miracles, WMA, Spin)
Boston II, 2008: TBD
Jones Beach II (2000), Holmdel (2003), Camden 1, East Rutherford II, Gorge I, Gorge II (2006), MSG I, Boston II (2008), Spectrum II, Spectrum III, Spectrum IV (2009), MSG I, MSG II (2010), Prague (2012), Philly I (2013), Philly I, Philly II, Fenway I (2016), Fenway I (2018), MSG (2022)
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,017
    Roo: Epic

    Columbia: Special

    WPB: Good
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
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    thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    Virginia Beach- AVERAGE
    Lollapalooza-AVERAGE
    Cleveland 2006- SPECIAL -setlist was amazing(U,Smile,DGNL, Faithful,Immortality,Fuckin Up), interaction was top notch
    Pittsburgh 2006- GOOD (Waiting on a Friend)
    Columbus 2003- Subpar
    Cleveland 2003- GOOD ( best live version of Sonic Reducer)
    Columbus 2000- GOOD
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,612
    Buffalo '03: Epic
    Boston I '04: Special
    Boston II '04: Good
    Hartford '06: Subpar
    East Rutheford '06: Good
    Camden I 08: Good
    Camden II 08: Good


    (I would flip-flop the Boston '04's, however, II was ruined as the person I gave a free ticket to, felt the need to try to cram 6 people into the one seat).
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    NoelMichaelNoelMichael Posts: 1,630
    9-28-96 Randall’s Island NY-- EPIC
    9-01-00 Camden NJ-- AVERAGE
    7-05-03 Camden NJ-- AVERAGE
    10-01-04 Reading PA-- SPECIAL
    10-03-05 Philadelphia PA-- EPIC
    5-27-06 Camden NJ-- AVERAGE
    5-28-06 Camden NJ-- GOOD
    6-19-08 Camden NJ-- SPECIAL
    6-20-08 Camden NJ-- SPECIAL
    6-24-08 New York NY-- EPIC
    9-28-96 Randall’s Island NY; 9-01-00 Camden NJ; 7-05-03 Camden NJ; 10-01-04 Reading PA; 10-03-05 Philly PA; 5-27-06 Camden NJ; 5-28-06 Camden NJ; 6-19-08 Camden NJ; 6-20-08 Camden NJ; 6-24-08 NYC NY; 8-7-08 EV Newark, NJ; 6-11-09 EV Philly PA; 6-12-09 EV Philly PA; 10-27-09 Philly PA; 10-28-09 Philly PA; 10-30-09 Philly PA; 10-31-09 Philly PA; 5-15-10 Hartford CT; 5-18-10 Newark NJ; 5-21-10 NYC NY; 6-21-11 EV NYC NY; 6-22-11 EV NYC NY; 6-25-11 EV Philly PA; 7-1-11 EV StL MS; 9-3-11 E Troy WI; 9-4-11 E Troy WI
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    AlBorlandAlBorland Posts: 117
    Columbia 08- Special

    I could not have asked for anything more. They hit all my favorites: present tense, i got id, red mosquito, off he goes etc. A wave of emotion hit me during Inside Job, a song I never really paid attention to much before the show. An amazing night.
    Skeletons ain't got nowhere to stick their money.
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    thunderDANthunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    6-24-08 New York NY-- EPIC

    last night wasn't epic IMO. Bringing out a replacement of a replacement Ramone doesn't launch a show to epic standards in my book
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    I like this idea...so here we go.

    St. Louis 2000- Special. Maybe it's just special because it was my first show, or maybe it was one of the best "Of The Girl" performances ever, the sign language girl during "Given to Fly". Any setlist that has "In My Tree", "Footsteps", "Parting Ways", and "Sonic Reducer" is okay in my book.

    St. Louis 2003- Special. Just because of opening with "Present Tense" and the fact that the only cover all night was the tag of "Save It For Later" on "Betterman".

    Kansas City 2003- Special. I've never been in a crowd that felt as unified as this one. Huge downpour started at the end of Idlewild's set and delayed the show a bit. "Hi dad" during "Release" still gives me chills when I hear it.

    Council Bluffs 2003- Good. If this had been the only time I heard "Arc", it would be special. Fairly decent setlist. "Driven To Tears" is always good, and one of the best RITFW yet.

    St. Paul 2003- Average. "Evenflow" followed by "Thin Air"? Seriously? Besides that...nothing.

    Chicago 2003- Good. Great run of Present Tense and Light Years. Cool to see Idlewild up with PJ for RITFW.

    St. Louis VFC 2004- Good. I loved the political covers, and really dug the first encore as an acoustic set. "Alone", "All or None", "Man of the Hour", and "Fortunate Son" really made the night for me.

    Chicago I 2006- Special. Personally, to me this was a special show. Heard two of my favorites "I Got Shit" and "Low Light" for the first time. Hard not to call that special.

    Cleveland 2006- EPIC. From a personal point and as a show. Met Mike at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame earlier in the day. Great show with lots of energy. Any encore that includes "You", "Don't Gimme No Lip", "Smile", "Fuckin' Up", and the best "Thumbing My Way" known to man make it truly an epic and underrated show.

    Cincy 2006- Good. The only thing keeping this from being subpar is that it was my first time hearing "Kids Are Alright" and "Long Road"...after that....all downhill

    The Vic 2007- BEYOND EPIC. I don't need to explain this one. One of the greatest nights of my life.
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    Nassau 4/30/03 -Special
    MSG 7/8/03- Epic
    MSG 7/9/03 -Special
    Homdel 7/14/03 Average
    Boston 9/28/04 Good
    Boston 9/29/04 Special
    Montreal 9/15/05 Good
    Hartford 5/13/06 Subpar
    NJ 6/1/06 Average
    NJ 6/3/06 Good
    MSG 6/24/08 Special
    4/30/03 7/8/03 7/9/03 7/14/03 9/28/04 9/29/04 9/15/05 5/13/06 6/01/06 6/02/06 6/24/08 6/25/08 6/27/08 7/1/08 8/4/08 8/5/08 6/8/09 5/19/2010 5/20/2010 5/21/2010 6/22/2011 10/25/2013 8/5/2016 9/2/2018
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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    St. Louis 1998-EPIC-reason is personal as this was my first show ever seeing pearl jam and they played TREMOR "FREAKIN" CHRIST!!!!!!!

    St. Louis 2000-GOOD-just look at ledvedderman review above

    St. Louis 2003-GOOD

    VFC- St. Louis-GOOD

    VFC- Boston 2-SPECIAL-crowd made this one crazy

    Chicago- Vic Theatre-EPIC- 10c only show thats why

    Tampa, FL 2008-SPECIAL-another show in a different state, got to meet alot of cool people and it was my honeymoon on top of it :)
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    EPIC - Shows that are remembered forever even by the people who didn't go to them (think Randalls Island, etc) (maybe 1% of shows)
    SPECIAL - The rare unusually amazing/rare/unique shows from each tour (maybe 5-10% of shows)
    GOOD - The above average shows, (probably I'd say 35% of shows)
    AVERAGE - Good, but overall its going to be a show that blends in with a lot of other shows on the tour (another 35% or so)
    SUBPAR - Still great but for a Pearl Jam show nothing that was particularly inspiring (bottom 20% of shows)

    Epics
    Randall's 2 96 (life altering)
    MSG 2 98 (one word: alive)

    Specials
    Reading 04 (I had front row)
    Columbia 08 (amazing seats, three encores, ed was in rare form)
    MSG 2 2003 (it really did feel like a family reunion--relentless main set)
    DC 2006 (lowlight and my wife caugh a pick from Mike)
    NJ 2 2006 (upgraded this one as it was a really fun show--Ed again in rare form)

    Goods
    Rochester 1994 (day before Kurdt found; PJ was good butr Mudhoney was better)
    TFC 98 (Betterman dedicated to Clinton; yielded stage to RHCP)
    DC 2000 (Played extra long as Sonic Youth had to bail; first time hearing Crazy Mary)
    DC 2003 (Greatest version of Betterman I've ever heard--some of the fans were dicks though)
    DC 2008 (This one could have been special--the roof was not sweating though)

    Averages
    MSG 1 98 (Feels better already: see night two)

    Subpars
    Jones Beach 1 2000 (Sonic Youth blew them off the stage)
    Boston 1 2004 (Very rusty)
    Boston 2 2004 (Still rusty)
    "Goddamn Romans. Sure know how to make a ... drum room." --Matt Cameron
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    3sheets3sheets Posts: 284
    West Palm I '98 - Good
    West Palm I '00 - Average
    Tampa '00 - Special
    Seattle I '00 - Good
    Seattle II '00 - Epic
    West Palm '03 - Good
    Orlando '03 - Special
    Tampa '03 - Subpar
    Kissimmee '04 - Average
    West Palm '08 - Good
    Tampa '08 - Good
    Live Free or Die!
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,017
    I'd love to see Blind3's list. 75+ shows :)
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
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    PrlJam27PrlJam27 Colonia, NJ Posts: 346
    9/29/96, Randall's Island - Epic
    9/8/08, East Rutherford - Good
    9/10/08, MSG - Special
    9/11/08, MSG - Epic
    8/23/00, Jones Beach - Average
    8/24/00, Jones Beach - Good
    8/25/00, Jones Beach - Special
    9/1/00, Camden - Special
    9/2/00, Camden - Good
    4/28/03, Philly - Special
    4/30/03, Uniondale - Special
    7/5/03, Camden - Good
    7/6/03, Camden - Subpar
    7/8/03, MSG - Epic
    7/9/03, MSG - Epic
    7/14/03, Holmdel - Special
    9/28/04, Boston - Special
    9/29/04, Boston - Special
    10/1/04, Reading - Special
    9/19/05, Toronto - Special
    9/30/05, Atlantic City - Special
    10/1/05, Atlantic City - Special
    10/03/05, Philly - Epic
    5/12/06, Albany - Good
    5/13/06, Hartford - Good
    5/27/06, Camden - Good
    5/28/06, Camden - Good
    5/30/06, Washington DC - Special
    5/31/06, New York (Storytelllers) - Epic
    6/1/06, East Rutherford - Special
    6/3/06, East Rutherford - Special
    12/9/06, Honolulu - Good
    8/2/07, Chicago (Vic) - Epic
    8/5/07, Chicago (Lollaplooza) - Special
    6/19/08, Camden - Good
    6/20/08, Camden - Good
    6/22/08, Washington DC - Good
    6/24/08, MSG - Special

    whew....
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    I_Got_ShitI_Got_Shit Posts: 325
    Epic:

    Mansfield III from '03. 45 songs. 'Nuff said.

    Special:

    Boston II from '06 -- dropped the Leash, Low Light, Smile, Parachutes debut. Indifference, RITFL and YL all in second encore.

    Champaign, IL from '03 -- small arena, amazing crowd, lots of covers (Driven to Tears, Know Your Rights, Fortunate Son, Blue Red Grey, Crazy Mary and Baba). Most fun I've ever had at a PJ show. Also, someone yelled out for Ledbetter so Ed took it off the set list. Some might disagree, but this is a personal favorite.

    Good: Mansfield I and II in '03, Boston I and II in '04, Boston I in '06.
    *Does not include encore of Garden and Leash.
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    JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    Antwerp 06: average
    Paris 06: average
    Copenhagen 07: special
    Werchter 07: good
    2006: Antwerp, Paris
    2007: Copenhagen, Werchter
    2009: Rotterdam, London
    2010: MSG, Arras, Werchter
    2012: Amsterdam, Prague, Berlin
    2014: Amsterdam, Stockholm
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    I am suprised that so many people rank the Boston 04s so highly--I had a nice time up there, but the shows were "eh" from what I remember.
    "Goddamn Romans. Sure know how to make a ... drum room." --Matt Cameron
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,612
    I am suprised that so many people rank the Boston 04s so highly--I had a nice time up there, but the shows were "eh" from what I remember.

    I really liked the acoustic sets
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    PrlJam27PrlJam27 Colonia, NJ Posts: 346
    I am suprised that so many people rank the Boston 04s so highly--I had a nice time up there, but the shows were "eh" from what I remember.


    Come on, we got Alone, I've Got a Feeling, The Seeker, American in Me, Bleed for Me, Masters of War, Lion's Share, The New World, and Howard Zinn was there!!!!


    Now that I think of it, I should have rated them epic rather than special.
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    I_Got_ShitI_Got_Shit Posts: 325
    I am suprised that so many people rank the Boston 04s so highly--I had a nice time up there, but the shows were "eh" from what I remember.

    I have them both as good, but I had really shitty seats and the sound sucked in the Fleet Center.
    *Does not include encore of Garden and Leash.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,612
    PrlJam27 wrote:
    Come on, we got Alone, I've Got a Feeling, The Seeker, American in Me, Bleed for Me, Masters of War, Lion's Share, The New World, and Howard Zinn was there!!!!


    Now that I think of it, I should have rated them epic rather than special.

    you forgot the vocals of Tim Robbins.
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    PrlJam27 wrote:
    Come on, we got Alone, I've Got a Feeling, The Seeker, American in Me, Bleed for Me, Masters of War, Lion's Share, The New World, and Howard Zinn was there!!!!


    Now that I think of it, I should have rated them epic rather than special.

    I dunno, maybe I should upgrade them to average, but they were so rusty still. I don't think they really clicked until Reading on that tour.
    "Goddamn Romans. Sure know how to make a ... drum room." --Matt Cameron
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    I_Got_Shit wrote:
    I have them both as good, but I had really shitty seats and the sound sucked in the Fleet Center.

    Word up! Plus I was annoyed by the "Yankees suck" chants--I mean it it's a rock concert. I lost a lot of respect for Red Sox fans at those shows.
    "Goddamn Romans. Sure know how to make a ... drum room." --Matt Cameron
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    PrlJam27PrlJam27 Colonia, NJ Posts: 346
    Word up! Plus I was annoyed by the "Yankees suck" chants--I mean it it's a rock concert. I lost a lot of respect for Red Sox fans at those shows.


    Crazy ass Boston hulligans!!!! Its not a baseball game, let along a sporting event.
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    smithnicsmithnic Posts: 1,559
    PrlJam27 wrote:
    9/29/96, Randall's Island - Epic


    whew....

    one of my favorite bootlegs and top 3 shows I've ever heard!
    Go Get 'Em Tigers!
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    markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,110
    Only 3 shows to rank for me:

    Charlotte 2000 - Good. Had some good crowd interaction with Better Man (although they fucked up the beginning) and Black. Ending was amazing with I Got Shit, Last Kiss, Porch, and Yellow Ledbetter (the last two with Mike just completely jamming out).

    Charlotte 2003 - Average. I may put the 2000 show over this one since that was my first, but from hearing other boots from the 2003 tour, this show just kind of blended in with the rest. In Hiding, Alive, and Sonic Reducer were the highlights to me, but this one just didn't match the intensity of the 2000 show.

    Columbia 2008 - Special. Great setlist, awesome energy from the band and crowd. Just a great overall performance. To me, Alive was the highlight amongst a lot of other great songs.
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    smg9779smg9779 Posts: 235
    11/18/97 Oakland - Special, but only because it was my first PJ show
    07/13/98 Los Angeles - Good
    07/14/98 Los Angeles - Good
    10/31/99 Bridge School - Average
    10/28/00 San Bernardino - Average
    10/31/00 Mountain View - Average

    10/21/01 Bridge School - Special. Right after 9/11. Very moving performances by all artists. Crowd singing "Imagine" at the end just brought everyone to tears.

    06/01/03 Mountain View - Average
    07/15/06 SF I - Good
    07/16/06 SF II - Good
    07/18/06 SF III - Special
    10/21/06 Bridge School - Average
    04/07/08 Berkeley - Good
    04/08/08 Berkeley - Epic
    Steve

    11/18/97 Oakland
    07/13/98 Los Angeles
    07/14/98 Los Angeles
    10/31/99 Bridge School
    10/28/00 San Bernardino
    10/31/00 Mountain View
    10/21/01 Bridge School
    06/01/03 Mountain View
    07/15/06 SF I
    07/16/06 SF II
    07/18/06 SF III
    10/21/06 Bridge School
    04/07/08 Berkeley
    04/08/08 Berkeley
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    JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,257
    Dublin 06 -Special
    Berlin 06 - Good
    Dusseldorf 07 - Special
    Hurricane 07 - Good
    Copenhagen 07 - Epic
    Werchter 07 - Average
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    Bonnaroo=Epic: My first ever PJ show and I was in the pit along side my two friends!

    MSG 1 '08=Special

    Camden 1 '08=Special
    6/14/08 - Bonnaroo
    6/19/08 - Camden 1
    6/24/08 - MSG 1
    8/07/08 - Newark, EV Solo
    6/11/09 - Upper Darby, EV Solo
    10/28/09 - Spectrum 2
    10/30/09 - Spectrum 3
    10/31/09 - Spectrum 4
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    Hold OnHold On Posts: 80
    I think there are an awful lot of people rating shows as "Epic". I think you cannot compare them to other bands, because every show would then be Epic or Special, but only among other "Pearl Jam" shows. For example, for me, "EPIC" would define something that truly stood out, even among PJ shows. Some examples would be Mansfield 3 in 2003 (The Experiment), State College in 2003 (longest PJ show ever), Benaroya Hall 2003 (incredible acoustics), Gorge 2005 (acoustic set before main show), and any setting where you are lucky enough to see PJ in an intimate setting (The Vic, Easy Street Records, Mt. Baker Theater, the Showbox, Crocodile Cafe, ARO Space) especially the tour warm-up shows where they first play live all the songs for their new album. Based on that criteria, I have not been to any EPIC shows.

    9/16/95 Austin - Special. opening acts Radiohead and the Ramones. My first show. 30 songs. Simply rocked! General admission with massive mosh pit.

    7/22/98 Seattle - Good. Memorial Stadium. Pearl Jam playing in their hometown. The teeny-bop group "Hansen" was playing in Key Arena behind them. When the 1100 curfew came, Eddie said "well, it's curfew time, but I see that Hansen is still playing at the Key Arena, so we're going to keep playing." Could have been "special", but not quite. They were billed as having a "special guest", and rumors were flying that Chris Cornell was backstage and going to join them onstage for a few songs, but it never materialized.

    5/30/2006 - Washington, DC - Good. After serving overseas for the seven years, it was great to be back in the USA and able to see Pearl Jam again, especially all the new songs from Avacado.

    6/22/2008 - Washington, DC - Special. 31 songs. Crowd was amazing! Main setlist was good, but encores made it Special. 90 minute encore! I was expecting a 4 song first encore followed by a 3 song second encore, but instead got 7 and 6 songs in the encores. Played multiple songs even after houselights came on. Versions of Black and RVM were amazing.

    On a sidebar, I just missed an "EPIC" back in October, 1998. I was living in Seattle at the time, and was actually at the Crocodile Cafe during the day on October 10th. For those of you who don't know, the Croc is TINY. I could have still gotten tickets to Cheap Trick that night, but my wife had a headache, so we went home instead. Little did we know that Pearl Jam made a surprise appearance opening for Cheap Trick that night at the Croc. They played 10 songs, and it would have been EPIC. Ahhh, the one that got away.
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    smithnicsmithnic Posts: 1,559
    Toledo 96 ~ GOOD for everyone else, but it was my first so it's always special.

    Lansing 98 ~ GOOD
    W. Palm Beach 98 I ~ GOOD
    W. Palm Beach 98 II ~ SPECIAL

    Detroit 2000 ~ GOOD
    Chicago 2000 ~ GOOD

    Chicago 2003 ~ GOOD
    Detroit I 2003 ~ GOOD
    Detroit II 2003 ~ GOOD

    Toledo 2004 ~ EPIC (Neil Young)
    Grand Rapids 2004 ~ SPECIAL

    Kitchener 2004 ~ GOOD
    London 2005 ~ GOOD

    Chicago I 2006 ~ GOOD
    Chicago II 2006 ~ SPECIAL
    Grand Rapids 2006 ~ EPIC
    Cleveland 2006 ~ GOOD
    Detroit 2006 ~ GOOD

    Camden I 2008 ~ GOOD
    Camden II 2008 ~ GOOD
    MSG I 2008 ~ SPECIAL/EPIC
    MSG II 2008 ~ SPECIAL/EPIC
    Go Get 'Em Tigers!
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