Nick Cave

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sadprofessor wrote:

Thats actually a really good sort of general Nick Cave album, it really touches on a lot of the different sorts of songs that he writes, where as a lot of his albums tend to go in one particular direction or another.

Very true. Mad-man Cave wailing (Loverman) to beautiful ballads (take your pick from this one).

StoneG82

I just got into him also.

Muder Ballads and The Boatman's Call are the only records I've heard so far.

both are brilliant. This guy reminds me alot of Tom Waits.

gossardstradlin

Definitely "Let Love In', or "Murder Ballads"

Lay Me Low off of "Let Love In" always gives me chills.

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gossardstradlin wrote:

Definitely "Let Love In', or "Murder Ballads"

Lay Me Low off of "Let Love In" always gives me chills.

Cave has a serious knack to throw in those one liners and chorus refrains that just send chills up your spine every time you hear it...

You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red-right-hand...

oo0o0

StoneG82

It was back in '32 when times were hard
He had a Colt .45 and a deck of cards
Stagger Lee
He wore rat-drawn shoes and an old stetson hat
Had a '28 Ford, had payments on that
Stagger Lee
His woman threw him out in the ice and snow
And told him, "Never ever come back no more"
Stagger Lee
So he walked through the rain and he walked through the mud
Till he came to a place called The Bucket Of Blood
Stagger Lee
He said "Mr Motherfucker, you know who I am"
The barkeeper said, "No, and I don't give a good goddamn"
To Stagger Lee
He said, "Well bartender, it's plain to see
I'm that bad motherfucker called Stagger Lee"
Mr. Stagger Lee
Barkeep said, "Yeah, I've heard your name down the way
And I kick motherfucking asses like you every day"
Mr Stagger Lee
Well those were the last words that the barkeep said
'Cause Stag put four holes in his motherfucking head
Just then in came a broad called Nellie Brown
Was known to make more money than any bitch in town
She struts across the bar, hitching up her skirt
Over to Stagger Lee, she starts to flirt
With Stagger Lee
She saw the barkeep, said, "O God, he can't be dead!"
Stag said, "Well, just count the holes in the motherfucker's head"
She said, "You ain't look like you scored in quite a time.
Why not come to my pad? It won't cost you a dime"
Mr. Stagger Lee
"But there's something I have to say before you begin
You'll have to be gone before my man Billy Dilly comes in,
Mr. Stagger Lee"
"I'll stay here till Billy comes in, till time comes to pass
And furthermore I'll fuck Billy in his motherfucking ass"
Said Stagger Lee
"I'm a bad motherfucker, don't you know
And I'll crawl over fifty good pussies just to get one fat boy's asshole"
Said Stagger Lee
Just then Billy Dilly rolls in and he says, "You must be
That bad motherfucker called Stagger Lee"
Stagger Lee
"Yeah, I'm Stagger Lee and you better get down on your knees
And suck my dick, because If you don't you're gonna be dead"
Said Stagger Lee
Billy dropped down and slobbered on his head
And Stag filled him full of lead
Oh yeah.

lucylespian

"You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red-right-hand"

That's the quote !!




Stag said, "Well, just count the holes in the motherfucker's head"


This is an insanely cool line !!

From memory, was not Nick CAve a victim of sexual abuse at a Catholic school, which informs a lot of his music ?? Anyone know more about this ??

Lostdogsinthegarden

Song of Joy is genious. The clues are well laid out in the track due to the masterful story-telling. Creepy song for sure.

gossardstradlin

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red-right-hand

That's a great tune.

Same with Stagger Lee

This one from Tender Prey always gets me going as well:

O My O My
What a wretched life
I was born on the day
that my poor mother died
I was cut from her belly
with a stanley knife
my daddy did a jig
with the the drunk midwife

Who's that yonder all in flames
dragging behind him a sack of chains
Who's that yonder all in flames
Up jumped the devil and he staked his claim

sweet...

StoneG82

gossardstradlin wrote:

O My O My
What a wretched life
I was born on the day
that my poor mother died
I was cut from her belly
with a stanley knife
my daddy did a jig
with the the drunk midwife

Who's that yonder all in flames
dragging behind him a sack of chains
Who's that yonder all in flames
Up jumped the devil and he staked his claim

sweet...

that nick cave sure is a dark fella.

I heard he had issues with heroin for the majority of his career....

that might explain it.

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StoneG82 wrote:

that nick cave sure is a dark fella.

I heard he had issues with heroin for the majority of his career....

that might explain it.

He's been doing heroin for some 30 years and I don't know if it's stopped. But he's still standing and as good as ever.

The sexual abuse I don't know about, but I do know that he went to school in a bording school and he is a christian.

lucy wrote:

Stag said, "Well, just count the holes in the motherfucker's head"


This is an insanely cool line !!

That's always been my favorite line from Stagger Lee :cool:. I think he has the absolute coolest pronunciation of the word 'mother fucker' that i've ever heard.

StoneG82

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

He's been doing heroin for some 30 years and I don't know if it's stopped. But he's still standing and as good as ever.

oh ok. I picked up "no more shall we part" and "Abatoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus" today.

i'm on my first spin of "no more shall we part". It's beautiful so far....

I heard Abatoir Blues was his best record.....

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StoneG82 wrote:

oh ok. I picked up "no more shall we part" and "Abatoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus" today.

i'm on my first spin of "no more shall we part". It's beautiful so far....

I heard Abatoir Blues was his best record.....

Gotta get The Lyre of Orpheus with Abattoir Blues, they go hand in hand (as any good double album should..). It's fucking brilliant. Personally I prefer TLOO over Abattoir Blues (if I had to choose..) but neither have realllly sank in yet. Everytime I put on TLOO I get caught up repeating it's title song, Breathless, and Easy Money.

StoneG82

"Lime Tree Arbour" from the Boatman's Call is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

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StoneG82 wrote:

"Lime Tree Arbour" from the Boatman's Call is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

I heard it for the first time yesterday and it wrecked me. I was listening to his ballads (not the album, just various songs by Cave) all day but after I heard that one and "Lay Me Low" back to back I had to cut it off. Couldn't take it. That's really the sign of a truely amazing artist to me.. .where it gets so much emotion from me that I literally have to turn it off.

StoneG82

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

I heard it for the first time yesterday and it wrecked me. I was listening to his ballads (not the album, just various songs by Cave) all day but after I heard that one and "Lay Me Low" back to back I had to cut it off. Couldn't take it. That's really the sign of a truely amazing artist to me.. .where it gets so much emotion from me that I literally have to turn it off.

yeah. I know what you mean.

I put on one of his records and I wind up playing one or two songs over and over again. Today its been "into my arms" and "lime tree arbour".

I'm blown away. I can't wait to listen to Abatoir Blues/TLOO later.

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After finishing "The Good Son", Cave thought it would be a good idea to fix his drug addiction. "To tell the truth," says Cave, "I actually didn’t want to kick drugs. It was the last thing on my mind to do. I had problems with being busted a couple of times, and basically it was either that or prison, and that’s why I went into the clinic. Eventually I came to the realisation that it was the best thing. But I went in screaming and kicking."

There we go. Our boy Nick is supposedly clean.

StoneG82

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

After finishing "The Good Son", Cave thought it would be a good idea to fix his drug addiction. "To tell the truth," says Cave, "I actually didn’t want to kick drugs. It was the last thing on my mind to do. I had problems with being busted a couple of times, and basically it was either that or prison, and that’s why I went into the clinic. Eventually I came to the realisation that it was the best thing. But I went in screaming and kicking."

There we go. Our boy Nick is supposedly clean.

yeah I was pretty sure I read that he cleaned up and turned into a devout christian.

it's pretty amazing that he's had such a career while on that horrible drug. I can't remember any addict sticking around for as long as he has.

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StoneG82 wrote:

yeah I was pretty sure I read that he cleaned up and turned into a devout christian.

it's pretty amazing that he's had such a career while on that horrible drug. I can't remember any addict sticking around for as long as he has.

That's because he's not human. I'm not positive on what he actually is though.. My money's on Vampire.

StoneG82

he is pretty scary looking.

Lostdogsinthegarden

So the Cave man is off the burning axe then? Good for him. I'm glad he was able to kick that shit. I can't wait to catch Cave live, any of you guys been to a show of his? I have the God is in the House dvd coming soon, so that will give me a taste.