Wilco [Is Amazing]

mdigenakis

i liked the documentary, which album sounds like the doc?

intodeep

A lot of the doc "I am trying to break your heart" was taken from the Yankee Hotel Foxtrot era, but they mix in older songs too so it's hard to say.

highlights of earlier albums Dick Jones:

AM:
Casino Queen
Box Full of Letters
Passenger Side

Being There:
Misunderstood
Monday
Outtasite Outta Mind
I got you
sunken treasue


Summerteeth:
how to fight lonliness
can't stand it
she's a jar
i'm always in love
via chicago
shot in the arm

those are the stand outs for me i'm sure others like other songs though.

eddievedder1977

intodeep wrote:

Summerteeth:
how to fight lonliness
can't stand it
she's a jar
i'm always in love
via chicago
shot in the arm

Nail on the head. I love all those songs. Summerteeth is such an incredible album. Via Chicago is my favorite.

The Sunken Treasure DVD is awesome though, really shows off Tweedy's songwriting ability. Plus you can get all the mp3s of the songs featured on the DVD by accessing the Extras on your computer. Not bad at all, you get a kickazz DVD show, AND can make a CD as well.

soulsinging

mdigenakis wrote:

isn't this band another bright eyes type band?
just a question, don't start shitting all over me.

in some sense maybe. both are essentially solo projects with a backing band (conor oberst and jeff tweedy), and both have a heavy folk influence. actually, the first few times i heard bright eyes it made me think of wilco quite a bit. but then, i like bright eyes. if you dont like bright eyes, that doesnt mean you'll dislike wilco though. wilco is a much more consistent band. a lot of times conor oberst's ambition exceeds his ability.

soulsinging

intodeep wrote:

A lot of the doc "I am trying to break your heart" was taken from the Yankee Hotel Foxtrot era, but they mix in older songs too so it's hard to say.

highlights of earlier albums Dick Jones:

AM:
Casino Queen
Box Full of Letters
Passenger Side

Being There:
Misunderstood
Monday
Outtasite Outta Mind
I got you
sunken treasue


Summerteeth:
how to fight lonliness
can't stand it
she's a jar
i'm always in love
via chicago
shot in the arm

those are the stand outs for me i'm sure others like other songs though.

not bad list, though you forgot 'dreamer in my dreams'... the best song from being there!

Dick Jones

Cool man thanks for that list. That should ease me into those albums quite nicely.

The new song, "The Thanks I Get" is awesome. Myspace page.

intodeep

soulsinging wrote:

in some sense maybe. both are essentially solo projects with a backing band (conor oberst and jeff tweedy), and both have a heavy folk influence. actually, the first few times i heard bright eyes it made me think of wilco quite a bit. but then, i like bright eyes. if you dont like bright eyes, that doesnt mean you'll dislike wilco though. wilco is a much more consistent band. a lot of times conor oberst's ambition exceeds his ability.

Dreamer in my Dreams is a very cool song i did forget that one. Also just wanted to add my two cents on the thanks i get.. .it is an awesome song

soulsinging i agree with a you to a degree about wilco being a backing band for tweedy he obviously writes teh lyrics, but espcially with the older cd's jay bennett (and others imput) were very curcial to those albums.

Plus the line up now has some very respectable musicians such as Nels Cline (GREAT GUITAR PLAYER) and Glenn Kotchie (very good drummer) who's musician ship really enhance the albums. Idon't feel that way when i listen to a bright eyes album.

Oh and for the record i like a good bit of bright eyes stuff so i'm not knocking him just wanted to throw that opinion out there on their differences.

Dick Jones

Does it bug the shit out of anyone else when they show the argument in "IATTBYH" with Tweedy and Jay? I sure as hell couldn't listen to that shit for very long.

mike squires

Dick Jones wrote:

Does it bug the shit out of anyone else when they show the argument in "IATTBYH" with Tweedy and Jay? I sure as hell couldn't listen to that shit for very long.

It's weird. It's hard to tell really who is right and who is wrong. There was definately some tenstion bewteween the two of them. I'm sure Jeff can be difficult to work with and that there is some truth about the whole center of the circle and everything. Jay is a technical guy who strives for perfection. So the two egos together couldn't have been a good thing. I saw Jay a few weeks ago and put on a pretty good show. I think they had to put that little argument in there though to build up to when Jay leaves the band...

intodeep

mike squires wrote:

It's weird. It's hard to tell really who is right and who is wrong. There was definately some tenstion bewteween the two of them. I'm sure Jeff can be difficult to work with and that there is some truth about the whole center of the circle and everything. Jay is a technical guy who strives for perfection. So the two egos together couldn't have been a good thing. I saw Jay a few weeks ago and put on a pretty good show. I think they had to put that little argument in there though to build up to when Jay leaves the band...

I think the two differing creative forces were responsible for some of the bands best music. sometimes the ying needs that yang to bounce ideas off of and but heads with.

Dick Jones

So was Jay really thinking of leaving before he got the boot? IMO I highly doubt that comment.

Anyway, anyone have the version of "Kamera" from the DVD? That version kills.

intodeep

Dick Jones wrote:

So was Jay really thinking of leaving before he got the boot? IMO I highly doubt that comment.

Anyway, anyone have the version of "Kamera" from the DVD? That version kills.

It is hard to say. I think he may have thought about it, but i have a feeling he probably would not have left unless he was pushed out as he was.

Dick Jones

intodeep wrote:

It is hard to say. I think he may have thought about it, but i have a feeling he probably would not have left unless he was pushed out as he was.

Yeah I think so too, it would be really hard to leave after those sessions, they knew they had something big with YHF. You could tell while they were recording it.

soulsinging

intodeep wrote:

Dreamer in my Dreams is a very cool song i did forget that one. Also just wanted to add my two cents on the thanks i get.. .it is an awesome song

soulsinging i agree with a you to a degree about wilco being a backing band for tweedy he obviously writes teh lyrics, but espcially with the older cd's jay bennett (and others imput) were very curcial to those albums.

Plus the line up now has some very respectable musicians such as Nels Cline (GREAT GUITAR PLAYER) and Glenn Kotchie (very good drummer) who's musician ship really enhance the albums. Idon't feel that way when i listen to a bright eyes album.

Oh and for the record i like a good bit of bright eyes stuff so i'm not knocking him just wanted to throw that opinion out there on their differences.

yeah, i wasnt saying the band wasn't good, i just meant as in there is clearly one person who is "in charge" and does basically all the writing while guiding the band's creative vision. their live album is stellar and having seen the dvd, there is some cohesion/contribution. i cant compare that to bright eyes really, as i dont know enough about them.

jlew24asu

anyone have an extra ticket or 2 for the chicago show 24th or 25th. pm me. thank you

Dick Jones

I am still trying to find that version of 'Kamera' from the documentary.

Anyone?

walkunafraid

How come I didn't see this topic sooner? I love, love Wilco. I've seen them three times as a band (once at Bridge School, once opening for R.E.M., and then headlining their own show), and I've seen Jeff Tweedy solo once (in Los Angeles). All four shows were brilliant, although I have to say that Tweedy solo was far and away my favorite of them all!

My favorite Wilco songs:

She's a Jar
Forget the Flowers
Bob Dylan's 49th Beard
I'm the Man Who Loves You
Via Chicago
Misunderstood (ESPECIALLY live!)
Sunken Treasure
Remember the Mountain Bed (off "Mermaid Avenue")
I am Trying to Break Your Heart
Jesus, etc.
War on War
Radio Cure
Hummingbird
Company in my Back
Spiders (Kidsmoke)
At Least That's What You Said

Dick Jones

The bass line in "Handshake Drugs" is addictive as hell.

walkunafraid

Dick Jones wrote:

The bass line in "Handshake Drugs" is addictive as hell.

Have you heard the Demo version? Outstanding...!

Dick Jones

walkunafraid wrote:

Have you heard the Demo version? Outstanding...!

No I have not,...where can I find that?