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Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:2-feign-reluctance said:Is Luther widely considered the best performances from them during that period? Or are there shows considered to be even better?
I think the D&T shows I’ve been to since all fail to live up to 03. I never attended the 96 shows in person though
96 is very highly regarded I think. Pretty sure I’ve got audience recordings of both those shows somewhere
But of all the D&T moments that were memorable, perhaps the single most memorable one, which was maybe UConn on that '96 run, was when both of them did "interpretive dance" to Soul Coughing's song Janine, it was both HYSTERICAL, sweet, and kinda touching. But imagine Dave & Tim putting down their guitars and pretty much acting out stories through dance... will never forget that. It was funny & sweet as hell.
Benaroya solo 02 has an entire LP side of Dave speak but he was just rambling that night but that also stands out for an official release not being edited
i just checked Boone NC 03 is a soundboard and that’s got at least 4 stories. Blue man group story, when he worked for a knife thrower, the Porsche hitting the cow story and a skiing story
Hey, since it's just you, me and mrussel1 in this convo (no one else reads this thread, right?), can I ask a question that I suspect is one of those "The topic that shall not be mentioned" things in DMB land... I feel like just as I stopped going to DMB shows, maybe mostly '02-'04, In Ear Monitor recordings were a big thing being traded. Because I became friends with the band, for some of the later shows I saw I was able to either stand side-stage or in the sound booth and wear headphones so I could hear all the IEM chatter, so I KNOW some of it was EPIC and hysterical. But I also know fans then figured out how to tune into the frequency and record some, and that tapes & cds or IEM chatter started making the rounds, intiially I think without anyone from the band or management taking issue with them. Pretty sure though, given that it's how the band communicates about both funny things and serious, a stop was put to recording them and trading them? But that was after I wasn't around much so I don't know what happened.
I'm only back reading about DMB in discussion groups since the pandemic, and don't see it mentioned anywhere anymore, so what's the deal with those? Are they still traded on the DL? Are there any legendary 120 min cassettes of JUST IEM chatter, or Davespeak & IEM chatter? That would be awesome to hear again if it's out there!
But don't tell anyone I asked, if it's not supposed to be discussed!
OR.. maybe it was never recorded, maybe fans just figured out how to tune into it and were listening?
It's also a slim chance I made that whole thing up in my memory and it never happened that way. Such things happen. But I'm so tech-clueless that the odds of me "inventing" something like this are near impossible, I don't know enough to dream up these mistakes.
Let me know if you find anything out!Post edited by JH6056 on0 -
mrussel1 said:JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:You’re right, LT23. I had forgotten that made it out. And BTCS was a great tour. Saw it in Tampa. Although the 2000 tour is easily my favorite, when the Lillywhite songs showed up.Post edited by Cropduster-80 on0
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I’ve seen, had Pearl Jam ear monitor stuff, but not DMB. There is so much sbd stuff for both bands, it doesn’t make sense to mess with inferior recordings anymore. I was a heavy trader and bootlegger back in the day but I can’t recall the last time I touched a Schoepes tape.
and you can pm me if you want any live DMB. I have everything.0 -
mrussel1 said:JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:You’re right, LT23. I had forgotten that made it out. And BTCS was a great tour. Saw it in Tampa. Although the 2000 tour is easily my favorite, when the Lillywhite songs showed up.2000 to about 2003 was peak DMB for me. Lillywhite/Busted Stuff is my favorite work and that was in heavy rotation in that era. Plus I thought Butch’s piano was great. So having him, ‘Roi still alive, plus the songs were peaking makes that era my favorite. I am both lucky and sad to have been at Roi’s last show.Oh and I guess I do have a minor connection. I knew Butch Taylor back then. He did the jingle work for Capital One and we worked on some marketing stuff. Really nice guy.
That's nuts that you were at Roi's last show, I think I was at the show right after his last show (if it was Atlanta) because the band had just come from visiting him in the hospital the day before, and everyone was super hopeful that all would be fine, he was making a good recovery.
I don't have DMB live official albums, but rented a car during pandemic with Sirius XM so toggled a lot between like 6 stations (of course PJ Radio) but also DMB. Heard a live show that was SO emotional, long story short I looked at the city & year on the display and pulled over to look it up on my phone thinking "This HAS to be the 1st show they played after Roi died" and it was. It was SO SO SO emotional, naturally.
Butch is a really nice guy. I don't think I've seen him since '02 maybe? When did he stop touring with them? Super talented.0 -
Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.0 -
mrussel1 said:Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.0 -
mrussel1 said:Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.
I heard about "trench coat guy", wasn't that at DMB playing the 1st show ever at the renovated or new JPJ Arena? Sounds like security was a hot mess that that whole thing happened, but glad they go back a lot and I'm sure they never got security wrong again there!0 -
JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.
I heard about "trench coat guy", wasn't that at DMB playing the 1st show ever at the renovated or new JPJ Arena? Sounds like security was a hot mess that that whole thing happened, but glad they go back a lot and I'm sure they never got security wrong again there!0 -
Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.
I heard about "trench coat guy", wasn't that at DMB playing the 1st show ever at the renovated or new JPJ Arena? Sounds like security was a hot mess that that whole thing happened, but glad they go back a lot and I'm sure they never got security wrong again there!0 -
JH6056 said:Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.
I heard about "trench coat guy", wasn't that at DMB playing the 1st show ever at the renovated or new JPJ Arena? Sounds like security was a hot mess that that whole thing happened, but glad they go back a lot and I'm sure they never got security wrong again there!0 -
Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.
I heard about "trench coat guy", wasn't that at DMB playing the 1st show ever at the renovated or new JPJ Arena? Sounds like security was a hot mess that that whole thing happened, but glad they go back a lot and I'm sure they never got security wrong again there!0 -
Yeah it was the last show... I don't recall it being the reopening of the arena but certainly may have been. And yeah definitely a whale but they brought it back in 19 and I got it twice in three shows, but they abbreviated it.
Last tour they brought back Sweet Up and Down and that was a whale for me. Loved it.
But yes, PJ at JPJ was one of the best PJ shows in the past decade plus for me. Perfect weather, perfect arena, perfect set. And we were rail in front of Stone. If you recall, Ed gave a young man next to me his first drink of alcohol. I talked to the father later on and he said they went backstage and Ed hung for a few and then they got a truckload of merch.0 -
mrussel1 said:Yeah it was the last show... I don't recall it being the reopening of the arena but certainly may have been. And yeah definitely a whale but they brought it back in 19 and I got it twice in three shows, but they abbreviated it.
Last tour they brought back Sweet Up and Down and that was a whale for me. Loved it.
But yes, PJ at JPJ was one of the best PJ shows in the past decade plus for me. Perfect weather, perfect arena, perfect set. And we were rail in front of Stone. If you recall, Ed gave a young man next to me his first drink of alcohol. I talked to the father later on and he said they went backstage and Ed hung for a few and then they got a truckload of merch.
If you were in front of Stone you probably didn't catch my favorite part of the show, but there was a guy I saw from my seats in a wheelchair trying to get into the pit but he didn't have a wristband. He was trying to explain to venue staff he couldn't see a THING from his seat further back on the floor because everyone was standing on their chairs, but they wouldn't let him in. I spotted someone who worked for PJ walking by and flagged him down, pointed out the guy in the wheelchair, and the guy said "I was just trying to find someone to give these to... and there he is!" and he had 2 pit wristbands in his hand, and he went to the guy, got him & his friend into the pit, and then PJ fans did what I figure they almost NEVER DO and parted like the Red Sea and gave him a path allt he way up to the rail, after the show had started!
I saw him when it was all over and he was in tears, he had such a great time and that was like the best icing on top of the cake of a freaking amazing PJ show.
Uh oh, did we break forum rules, talking about PJ in a non-PJ forum?0 -
JH6056 said:Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:Cropduster-80 said:JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:Butch stopped in 08. Rumor was that he enjoyed the groupies and it was the band or his wife.
Yes I’ve been consistent but I live in the center of three places he always hits, so it’s easy. Charlottesville is definitely my favorite place to see him. He plays JPJ Arena which is too small for him so it’s great. It’s special. Plus, everyone will tell you that Pearl Jam Charlottesville 2013 was special too. There is just a vibe about UVA that makes it a great place to see a show.
I heard about "trench coat guy", wasn't that at DMB playing the 1st show ever at the renovated or new JPJ Arena? Sounds like security was a hot mess that that whole thing happened, but glad they go back a lot and I'm sure they never got security wrong again there!
speculation mostly as to how he got backstage in the first place in a trench coat if no one knew him0 -
I ended up editing that show so while I didn't see it at the time, I saw it after when editing. So many great memories. It was also 2 days after Lou Reed died and a guy was roaming the pit in Lou shirt and giant sign. There was all kinds of shit going on at the show.
It reminds me of 2016 when the guy in the wheelchair from PJs 1998 show in Lauderdale was brought back on stage. This was the famous guy who crowd surfed in his wheelchair at the Lauderdale baseball stadium.0 -
mrussel1 said:I ended up editing that show so while I didn't see it at the time, I saw it after when editing. So many great memories. It was also 2 days after Lou Reed died and a guy was roaming the pit in Lou shirt and giant sign. There was all kinds of shit going on at the show.
It reminds me of 2016 when the guy in the wheelchair from PJs 1998 show in Lauderdale was brought back on stage. This was the famous guy who crowd surfed in his wheelchair at the Lauderdale baseball stadium.
When you say you "edited the show", do you mean your own video? Or you edited an official version? I should look for more video fo that show, it was so memorable (if we're still talking about PJ Charlottesville I mean!).0 -
JH6056 said:mrussel1 said:I ended up editing that show so while I didn't see it at the time, I saw it after when editing. So many great memories. It was also 2 days after Lou Reed died and a guy was roaming the pit in Lou shirt and giant sign. There was all kinds of shit going on at the show.
It reminds me of 2016 when the guy in the wheelchair from PJs 1998 show in Lauderdale was brought back on stage. This was the famous guy who crowd surfed in his wheelchair at the Lauderdale baseball stadium.
When you say you "edited the show", do you mean your own video? Or you edited an official version? I should look for more video fo that show, it was so memorable (if we're still talking about PJ Charlottesville I mean!).
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn-WEUogXBFbwfm3nmGN3rw
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Even easier, link directly to Last Stop..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIP8PJzssdQ&t=2658s
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mrussel1 said:Even easier, link directly to Last Stop..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIP8PJzssdQ&t=2658s
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So I have been in and out of the Warehouse numerous times over the years. Currently I've been active since Jan 2019. Should I bother going for GA Pit tickets? I am going to the Toronto show. One night only and the pit is always packed with hard-cores. I am guessing that 3 consecutive years in won't get me pit tickets. Any advice?
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