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Bedlam in Goliath-in/Casino/out-Vaya

jasonwjasonw Posts: 424
edited August 2008 in Other Music
I got these 3 albums today.....shortest amount of time i ever spent in a record store....knew what i wanted, walked in grabbed the 3 and got out before i bought random stuff.....anyone have any thoughts on any of these albums?
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  • audiodaveaudiodave Posts: 1,623
    Huge fan of both The Mars Volta and At The Drive-In here, but let me ask you...do you own any other of either bands albums? If not...this is an odd place to start.

    In/Casino/Out I hated at first, as I didn't like any ATDI when I first heard them. It was only after getting into The Mars Volta that I went back and began to appreciate ATDI. In/Casino/Out shows how different early ATDI is from Relationship Of Command...it's much more raw and unpolished. Some may like this, some may not, but I like it. If you like In/Casino/Out, I would recommend getting Acrobatic Tenement by ATDI aswell if you don't already own it. I can't comment on Vaya as i've STILL not got into it.

    The Bedlam In Goliath is a good album, but by no means The Mars Volta's best, in my opinion. Frances The Mute and Amputchture went in to VERY (especially Frances) long songs which some people hated (I like them) and The Bedlam In Goliath tries to move away from this into more clearly seperated "songs". The album as a whole still flows very well and has some great songs, but it didn't grab me as much as De Loused or Frances did when I first heard them.

    If you listen to In/Casino/Out and The Bedlam In Goliath back to back, it's kinda hard to believe it's still Cedric and Omar.
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  • MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    The Mars Volta are good but the way their albums are engineered is HORRIBLE. I've never been able to listen to Bedlam all the way through at one time. It just overloads your brain after a while.
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  • Yield To MeYield To Me Posts: 6
    I am glad to see other people talking about The Mars Volta. They are one of my favorite bands.

    audiodave, I know exactly what you mean about ATDI. My girlfriend's sister burned me a copy of the Relationship of Command, years ago. I listened to it a few times but never thought much about it. Going back and listening to it, you can see glimpses of TMV, but they are totally different bands.

    I bought Frances the Mute when I found out TMV was opening for System of a Down. I fell in love with that album instantly. The huge sound and the orchestral parts blew me away. I fell in love with the band after seeing them live. Probably the best opening band I have ever seen. They didn't try to talk to the crowd, ask us how we were doing, or ask if we were ready for System. They just played a brilliant, high-energy set and got the hell off the stage. The made System look bored to be there by comparison (and I am a pretty big System fan).

    I have since seen them live as a headlining band and was just as impressed. I recommend checking out all their albums. I disagree 100% that you cannot listen to their albums all the way through. They are meant to beat you up sonically, you either like it or you don't.

    I heard their next album is supposed to be more acoustic/mellow. It should be interesting.
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  • Red LukinRed Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    Nice choice with Bedlam in Goliath. Some say it's the bands' worst album, and some say it's their best. Sure it's not easy to follow, but I have to say that album has some of the best songs ever made - but in all honesty it took me a couple of months to realize it.

    The snare drum rolls (that sound like firecrackers) in Agadez are amazing (at 3:11). I never get sick of that. Ouroborous is also kick ass!
  • jasonwjasonw Posts: 424
    audiodave wrote:
    Huge fan of both The Mars Volta and At The Drive-In here, but let me ask you...do you own any other of either bands albums? If not...this is an odd place to start.

    In/Casino/Out I hated at first, as I didn't like any ATDI when I first heard them. It was only after getting into The Mars Volta that I went back and began to appreciate ATDI. In/Casino/Out shows how different early ATDI is from Relationship Of Command...it's much more raw and unpolished. Some may like this, some may not, but I like it. If you like In/Casino/Out, I would recommend getting Acrobatic Tenement by ATDI aswell if you don't already own it. I can't comment on Vaya as i've STILL not got into it.

    The Bedlam In Goliath is a good album, but by no means The Mars Volta's best, in my opinion. Frances The Mute and Amputchture went in to VERY (especially Frances) long songs which some people hated (I like them) and The Bedlam In Goliath tries to move away from this into more clearly seperated "songs". The album as a whole still flows very well and has some great songs, but it didn't grab me as much as De Loused or Frances did when I first heard them.

    If you listen to In/Casino/Out and The Bedlam In Goliath back to back, it's kinda hard to believe it's still Cedric and Omar.


    I have Relationship of Command and This Station is Non-Operational, but this is my first Volta album......i just really loved the song "Goliath" so that's what made me pick it up, i'm digging the whole thing so far.......i liked De-Loused (don't own it) but haven't really gotten into the other two
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