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Essential "alternative" albums?

gtbrown77gtbrown77 Posts: 140
edited April 2006 in Other Music
Always looking for a new direction to go in building my music collection I find myself coming back to the "alternative" genre time and time again. For the most part, I have all standards - Pearl Jam, STP, Nirvana, Pumpkins, REM, AIC, Soundgarden, RATM, etc. But I know there are a LOT more out there, and just wondering what some of the essential albums (or artists) are in your opinions. Thanks.
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    Matt LukinMatt Lukin Posts: 647
    Well, I'm not sure what the exact definition of "alternative" is, but I'll try and give you some good records that I like.

    Pixies - Surfer Rosa
    Pixies - Doolittle
    Pixies - Bossanova
    Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
    Sonic Youth - Sister
    Sonic Youth - Dirty
    My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
    Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
    At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
    Minus the Bear - Highly Refined Pirates
    Minus the Bear - Menos El Oso

    Not much, but I really enjoy all these records.
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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    Sonic youth- murray street
    Eagles of death Metal- peace love and death metal (came out in 2004 but it is a great album)
    Bush- sixteen stone
    STP- Purple
    Pixies- Surfa Rosa
    Soul Asylum- Grave Dancer's union
    Candlebox- The self titled album
    Toadies- Rubberneck
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    gtbrown77gtbrown77 Posts: 140
    Matt Lukin wrote:
    Well, I'm not sure what the exact definition of "alternative" is, but I'll try and give you some good records that I like.

    Pixies - Surfer Rosa
    Pixies - Doolittle
    Pixies - Bossanova
    Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
    Sonic Youth - Sister
    Sonic Youth - Dirty
    My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
    Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
    At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
    Minus the Bear - Highly Refined Pirates
    Minus the Bear - Menos El Oso

    Not much, but I really enjoy all these records.

    Maybe a more appropriate title would be "modern rock". For anybody in/around Chicago, the kind of stuff they play on Q101.

    That being said Matt Lukin, your suggestions def. fit into what I'm looking for (I'm guessing by the Pixies and Sonic Youth recommendations anyway)
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    NakedClownNakedClown Posts: 545
    LIVE - Throwing Copper
    Counting Crows - August and Everything After
    Seven Mary Three - American Standard

    (Those three albums - and PJ - got me through high school)
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    EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    gtbrown77 wrote:
    Maybe a more appropriate title would be "modern rock". For anybody in/around Chicago, the kind of stuff they play on Q101.

    That being said Matt Lukin, your suggestions def. fit into what I'm looking for (I'm guessing by the Pixies and Sonic Youth recommendations anyway)

    Modern rock is hardly alternative anymore, though

    anyways, a liten to a lot of "alternative" music, so here's my picks

    Pixies - Doolittle
    Sonic Youth - Dirty
    Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
    Sonic Youth - Washing Machine
    Guided By Voices - Bee Thousand
    Guided By Voices - Aline Lanes
    Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked rain
    Buikt To Spill - Perfect From now On
    My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
    Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over the Sea
    Boris - Akuma No Uta
    At The Drive-In - Relationship of Command
    Talking Heads - Remain In Light
    Mogwai - Young Team
    The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead\Matthew Good Band - Underdogs
    Arcade Fire - Funeral
    Shugo Tokumaru - Night Piece
    Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
    Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennaes To Heaven
    Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
    Slint - Spiderland
    Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
    Minus The Bear - Highly Refined Pirates
    New Pornographers - Mass Romantic

    A big list, as always, but I'll expand on any one of them, and they are all pretty damn fantastic albums
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    reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    I'll list some bands and albums for ya

    Eleven - Thunk
    Local H - As Good As Dead
    Local H - Here Comes The Zoo
    Dinosaur Jr, every album is fucking brilliant
    The Lemonheads, again every album
    The Pixies, Again every album
    Mudhoney, see the above three bands for referance
    Blind Melon, see above
    The Raconteurs - Broken Boy Soldiers
    The Arcade Fire - Funeral

    check em out.
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    EraserheadEraserhead Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 2,849
    Echoes wrote:
    Arcade Fire - Funeral
    Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennaes To Heaven
    Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

    Those are the correct answers.
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    MJSB74MJSB74 Posts: 75
    Truly-Fast Stories From Kid Coma. Sounds like Soundgarden shagging The Doors. But in a good way. This record went largely unnoticed when released in 95, but any reviews ive seen for it have been 5 out of 5. Essential listening.
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    transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
    Archers of Loaf - Icky Mettle
    Sugar - Copper Blue
    Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I
    Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
    Hot Snakes - Suicide Invoice
    Husker Du - Flip Your Wig
    M. Ward - Transfiguration of Vincent
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    WesternskyWesternsky Posts: 363
    I think you need to go back a little further and throw in some 80's essentials to get a better overall "alternative" picture. . .

    Joy Division - Substance (a good sampler)
    Replacements - Tim/Pleased to meet me
    The Cure - Head on the Door/Kiss me, Kiss me, Kiss me
    Husker Du - Zen Arcade/Candy Apple Grey
    New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies
    Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
    The Smiths - Hatful of hollow/Queen is dead
    Bob Mould - Workbook
    Television - Marquee Moon
    Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
    Sugarcubes - Life's too good
    Jesus & Mary Chain - Automatic
    Pixies - Surfer Rosa/Doolittle
    Cocteau Twins - Blue Bell Knoll
    Janes Addiction - Janes Addiction XXX
    Yo La Tengo - Painful

    . . . and this is some of the other -alternative- stuff that was out there in the 90s:
    Luna - Lunapark (1992)
    My Bloody Valentine - Loveless (1991)
    Dinosaur Jr - Where you been (1993)
    Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen (1993)
    Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted (1992)
    Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Now I got Worry (1996)
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    EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    ahhh shit how could I forget the Jesus and Mary Chain, Dismemberment Plan, and Yo La Tengo, and not mention Talk Talk. Those bands are pretty much essential
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    bucket1988bucket1988 Posts: 212
    Gin Blossoms - New Miserable Experience
    Live - Throwing Copper (its aleady been mentioned but its awesome)
    Dishwalla - Pet Your Friends
    Temple of the Dog - Self-titled (although I assume you already have this)
    Collective Soul - Self-titled
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    UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    Arcade Fire - Funeral
    Beck - Odelay
    Blind Melon - Blind Melon
    Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
    Nick Cave - Abattoir Blues / Lyre Of Orpheus
    eels - Beautiful Freak
    Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
    Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
    Kings Of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak
    Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf
    Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
    Soul Asylum - Grave Dancer's
    Strokes - Is This It
    White Stripes - any

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    karma defectkarma defect Posts: 5,483
    I would have to recommand you the following

    Mogwai - Come on die young
    Mogwai - Mr. Beast
    Blonde redhead - Misery is a butterfly
    June of '44 - Four great points
    Explosion in the sky - The earth is not a cold and dead place
    Malcolm Middleton - Into the woods
    Mars volta - De-loused in the comatorium
    The Dresden dolls - The Dresden dolls
    Tom McRea - Tom McRea
    Damien Rice - "O"
    dEUS - In a bar under the sea
    dEUS - The ideal crash
    The Broken social scene - You forget it in people
    The Black keys - Rubber factory
    Motorpsycho - Trust us
    Motorpsycho - Blissard
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    MJSB74 wrote:
    Truly-Fast Stories From Kid Coma. Sounds like Soundgarden shagging The Doors........

    i'd like to see....oops.. hear that. :)
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    AlessianaAlessiana Posts: 329
    Echoes wrote:
    Modern rock is hardly alternative anymore, though

    anyways, a liten to a lot of "alternative" music, so here's my picks

    Pixies - Doolittle
    Sonic Youth - Dirty
    Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
    Sonic Youth - Washing Machine
    Guided By Voices - Bee Thousand
    Guided By Voices - Aline Lanes
    Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked rain
    Buikt To Spill - Perfect From now On
    My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
    Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over the Sea
    Boris - Akuma No Uta
    At The Drive-In - Relationship of Command
    Talking Heads - Remain In Light
    Mogwai - Young Team
    The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead\Matthew Good Band - Underdogs
    Arcade Fire - Funeral
    Shugo Tokumaru - Night Piece
    Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
    Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennaes To Heaven
    Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
    Slint - Spiderland
    Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
    Minus The Bear - Highly Refined Pirates
    New Pornographers - Mass Romantic

    A big list, as always, but I'll expand on any one of them, and they are all pretty damn fantastic albums

    wow, great *great* choices. Drop none of these but add

    Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary

    Broken Social Scene - You forget it in people

    dredge - el clielo (god, I CANNOT recommend this strongly enough.. gaaah might be my favorite album of the decade)

    The Mars Volta - Deloused and In the Creamtorium AND Frances The Mute (think Led Zepplin meets... oh man uhm... jazz? no uh, latin america? no uh... just get it) FYI - this band was started by two geniuses from At The Drive-In after that band imploded.

    Arcade Fire's EP - which was re-released last year

    People In Planes - I like them... just picked up the CD, think "system of a down vocal harmonies over alt rock music"

    And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of The Dead - Source Tags & Codes but anything by them will do. I love their latest, "Worlds Apart".

    Explosions in The Sky - anything and everything. all instrumental but wow

    last but Not least, the CD which has been eaten by my m.fucking room:

    Porcupine Tree's Deadwing (think musical orgasms from a master art rock composer). GOD I HAVE TO FIND THIS ALBUM!

    ::stabs wall::

    Give me my fucking CD you *bitch*, she wails.

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    intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    transplant wrote:
    Archers of Loaf - Icky Mettle


    Lots of good answers on here, but this albums deserves more love. It is great :)
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    mrwalkerbmrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    not sure how "alternative" this is but London Calling is essential in every sense of the word. and throw in some social D as wel as REM's entire output from 1992-1996
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    kdpjamkdpjam Posts: 2,303
    psychedelic furs, pavement, the replacements, the cure, modest mouse, my morning jacket, the smiths, the flaming lips, sebadoh, guided by voices.......ETC
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    EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    Alessiana wrote:
    wow, great *great* choices. Drop none of these but add

    Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary

    Broken Social Scene - You forget it in people

    dredge - el clielo (god, I CANNOT recommend this strongly enough.. gaaah might be my favorite album of the decade)

    The Mars Volta - Deloused and In the Creamtorium AND Frances The Mute (think Led Zepplin meets... oh man uhm... jazz? no uh, latin america? no uh... just get it) FYI - this band was started by two geniuses from At The Drive-In after that band imploded.

    Arcade Fire's EP - which was re-released last year

    People In Planes - I like them... just picked up the CD, think "system of a down vocal harmonies over alt rock music"

    And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of The Dead - Source Tags & Codes but anything by them will do. I love their latest, "Worlds Apart".

    Explosions in The Sky - anything and everything. all instrumental but wow

    last but Not least, the CD which has been eaten by my m.fucking room:

    Porcupine Tree's Deadwing (think musical orgasms from a master art rock composer). GOD I HAVE TO FIND THIS ALBUM!

    I wouldn't consider the Wolf Parade album "essential," but "Dear Sons And Daughters Of Hungry Ghosts" -> "I'll Believe In Anything" is beyond awesome and possibly the best 2-song transition of last year.

    BSS is amazing, should belong there too. I don't know if I could consider The Mars Volta in that list, but if I put them on it would only be the first album. Frances the Mute was just too empty for me. I like the first song, really like the last song, but the middle 3 songs just did nothing for me at all.

    Dredg and Porcupine Tree are both good, but I just haven't listened to them enough, I guess, so I don't really know them all that well.

    EiTS is excellent too, I can't see how I forogt The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place, which is my favourite by them, since it is sitting on my shelf right in front of me. The Arcade Fire EP has some good songs but isn't anything superb.
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    redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    Fugazi- 13 Songs, The Repeater, Red Medicine etc.
    Mudhoney- Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge and March to Fuzz
    The Meat Puppets- Too High to Die
    Mission of Burma- Vs.
    Morphine- Like Swimming
    The Presidents of the United States- The Presidents I and II
    Primus- Frizzle Fry
    Q and Not U- No Kill Beep Beep/ Power
    The Minutemen- Double Nickels on the Dime
    At The Drive-In- In/ Casino/ Out
    Sonic Youth- Evol, Siter, Daydream Nation, Dirty, Sonic Nurse etc.
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    AlessianaAlessiana Posts: 329
    Echoes wrote:
    I wouldn't consider the Wolf Parade album "essential," but "Dear Sons And Daughters Of Hungry Ghosts" -> "I'll Believe In Anything" is beyond awesome and possibly the best 2-song transition of last year.

    BSS is amazing, should belong there too. I don't know if I could consider The Mars Volta in that list, but if I put them on it would only be the first album. Frances the Mute was just too empty for me. I like the first song, really like the last song, but the middle 3 songs just did nothing for me at all.

    Dredg and Porcupine Tree are both good, but I just haven't listened to them enough, I guess, so I don't really know them all that well.

    EiTS is excellent too, I can't see how I forogt The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place, which is my favourite by them, since it is sitting on my shelf right in front of me. The Arcade Fire EP has some good songs but isn't anything superb.

    I guess I'm not as precise as you are. For example, how could PIP be considered essential when they're as new as they are? I just like their SOAD vocal meets QOTSA vibe thing, and I'm not much of a QOTSA fan either.

    I do think Wolf Parade are essential but perhaps that album needs another year out and about for it to percolate. Neil Young's influence has such a long reach it touches multiple styles. I love this CD. They sold out last night where I live or I would have been there and taping SNL instead of suffering between songs.

    El Cielo is... indescribable. Please you must pick this up, listen for a few weeks and get back to me/us. As a complete work I love el cielo more then either of PJ's last two albums.

    Porcupine Tree have been around for more then 10 years but their last two CDs show an amazing application of art rock songwriting chops. Not that the composer didn't have the ability before, but he's more focused now. I don't think anyone working in that form at present is as brilliant as he is. Deadwing may take time to assimilate if the style is off putting. But when you're listening to a 12 minute song and 3 minutes into the bridge you realize the composer isn't finished with his variations... I dunno. It fucking blew me away. The numbers are estimates as I don't have the CD (fucking bitch room), and I can't remember the titles of the songs but maaaan.

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    EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    Alright, I'll download El Cielo or pick it up if I see it used at the shop this week. I hear lots of good stuff about it.

    I didn't think I was that precise really, I was just giving my reasoning on what you mentioned, heh.
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    AlessianaAlessiana Posts: 329
    Echoes wrote:
    Alright, I'll download El Cielo or pick it up if I see it used at the shop this week. I hear lots of good stuff about it.

    I didn't think I was that precise really, I was just giving my reasoning on what you mentioned, heh.

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    SeelosSeelos Posts: 5
    Came across the band Downface they have been mistaken as AIC and PJ on their song Alone. Has a great Grunge sound.
    Blind Melon, All of their stuff
    Death Cab for Cutie, John Byrdd EP
    Postal Service

    I'll have to check out some of the other suggestions
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    Tnerb248Tnerb248 Posts: 49
    did someone really say gin blossoms??


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    EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    Seelos wrote:
    Came across the band Downface they have been mistaken as AIC and PJ on their song Alone. Has a great Grunge sound.
    Blind Melon, All of their stuff
    Death Cab for Cutie, John Byrdd EP
    Postal Service

    I'll have to check out some of the other suggestions

    Eh Blind Melon I'll pass on, but if you want to lay down a DCFC album, it is probably best to use Transatlanticism or The Photo Album instead of a short live EP. The Postal Service was okay but had a lot of flops on it. A few great tracks, though
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    I like to list all albums/masterpieces by SWANS and all SWANS related projects. And also Akron/Family and Angels Of Light.

    How about that?!?!?
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    EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    I dunno, I haven't listened to either of them
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    SeelosSeelos Posts: 5
    I agree that DCFC has better albums than the John Byrdd EP, I guess I really like the line where he says something about not doing what he wanted to do being a short stop and instead is stuck doing this shit. It puts a smile on my face whenever it surfaces on my ipod. I also really dig Pavement, and my friend recently turned me onto The Black Keys.
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