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Neil Young Encore story (about playing what's known)

iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
edited September 2008 in Other Music
I had never heard this before, but I think it's true about people who are hooked on the poisonous radio and only like what they've heard 50x a day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek4sRvSz8E0 click here for the short story
9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
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  • dirtdirt Posts: 398
    I like brian vander ark's music a lot. Do you happen to know where where this video was shot? Wish I was there! The Resurrection cd is excellent.
    drive less - RIDE MORE!
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    dirt wrote:
    I like brian vander ark's music a lot. Do you happen to know where where this video was shot? Wish I was there! The Resurrection cd is excellent.

    I like him as well :) I was there, it was at one of those parties where he performed for fans. The tour was called Lawn Chairs and Living Room. It was on 8/17/08 in Winchester, VA. My videos were not as high quality as the one you clicked on. The host of the party got a brand new dvd recorder. Mine were taken with a one time use recorder. my you tube name is L4A7PearlJam if you want to see mine. He's made 2 more cds after Resurrection....he raised money last summer from the home party tour for his cd, he received more of a response than expected!
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • YefaYefa Posts: 1,133
    It's a nice story but it's simply not true. Check Neil's setlists from 1982 and 1983 if you doubt me.

    http://sugarmtn.org/years/82nysets.html
    http://sugarmtn.org/years/83nysets.html

    Of course, Neil has been known to play lots of new material in his live shows when some of his audience may well have been expecting the radio warhorses...such as the Greendale tour when he played the whole album from start to finish as the main set every show, only doing older songs in the encores.
    You see me empty, Sir, do not pause and inquire, simply assume and refill.
    - Al Swearengen

    http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    Yefa wrote:
    It's a nice story but it's simply not true. Check Neil's setlists from 1982 and 1983 if you doubt me.

    http://sugarmtn.org/years/82nysets.html
    http://sugarmtn.org/years/83nysets.html

    Of course, Neil has been known to play lots of new material in his live shows when some of his audience may well have been expecting the radio warhorses...such as the Greendale tour when he played the whole album from start to finish as the main set every show, only doing older songs in the encores.

    lol, I'm trying to find out the source of the story.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    Is he playing at a bed and breakfast?
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    Danimal wrote:
    Is he playing at a bed and breakfast?

    No, that was a fan's living room. I've seen 1 youtube where it looks like he was playing at a park. I could be wrong. He normally performs the home concerts in the living room or on decks.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
    yeah, not to be a nerd or anything, but i looked that up on the same neil fansite someone else posted, and i don't see any such thing on there

    but, thats something neil WOULD do!!!
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    I'm going to ask somebody at work who is a NY fan plus he's old, he may remember the story...

    too funny, you guys are searching online for the answer. In some posts on the message pit there's been sarcasm "of course, we know that everything you read on the internet is accurate."
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • The VacantThe Vacant Posts: 271
    The story sounds more like something from the Tonight's The Night tour. I have a couple of boots where after playing a bunch of tunes that would eventually be on Tonight's The Night, which would be released two years later. The whole time the crowd yells out for hits from Harvest and CSNY. Neil would tell the crowd the band was going to play a song the audience had heard before and then goes into Tonight's The Night (the song) for a second time. At shows in Bristol and London he actually played the title track three times in one show.

    Easily one of my favorite periods in Neil's history. The 11/15/73 show is one of my all time favorite boots.
  • StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
    The Vacant wrote:
    The story sounds more like something from the Tonight's The Night tour. The whole time the crowd yells out for hits from Harvest and CSNY. Neil would tell the crowd the band was going to play a song the audience had heard before and then goes into Tonight's The Night (the song) for a second time.
    having read the excellent Neil Young biography "Shakey", i think this is the actual story, and the guy just got the name of the album wrong

    and the internet may be questionable, but you really can trust BOOKS!!!

    ps - a fansite listing every show an artist plays over a 40 year career - i'd say that is a pretty trustworthy source of info on that artist
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    StuffnJunk wrote:
    having read the excellent Neil Young biography "Shakey", i think this is the actual story, and the guy just got the name of the album wrong

    and the internet may be questionable, but you really can trust BOOKS!!!

    ps - a fansite listing every show an artist plays over a 40 year career - i'd say that is a pretty trustworthy source of info on that artist

    oh, most definitely, I would trust a book over the internet! p.s. the guy is brian vander ark, front man for the band from Michigan, The Verve Pipe
    http://www.myspace.com/thevervepipe
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    iluvcats wrote:
    No, that was a fan's living room. I've seen 1 youtube where it looks like he was playing at a park. I could be wrong. He normally performs the home concerts in the living room or on decks.

    But I don't get it. Who is this guy?
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    Danimal wrote:
    But I don't get it. Who is this guy?

    brian vander ark, front man for the band from Michigan, The Verve Pipe
    http://www.myspace.com/thevervepipe

    do you remember the song in the nineties called The Freshmen? how about Photograph? the song Colorful (at the end of the movie Rockstar?) those are VP songs....he's gone solo.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • YefaYefa Posts: 1,133
    I also love the Tonight's The Night tour. Vander Ark was probably thinking of the title track as Neil typically played it twice and (as was mentioned above) sometime 3 times in the same night.
    In 2001 I saw Neil & Crazy Horse do "Goin' Home" twice at a show in Munich.
    If you doubt Sugar Mountain (the website), you do so at your peril. I have known the guy who runs it for years & he's one of the biggest & most knowledgeable Neil Young fans on the planet. Jimmy McDonough (the author of Shakey) is an entertaining writer but he misspelled a friend's last name in the acknowledgements section of the book so I wonder how scrupulous a fact-checker he is.
    You see me empty, Sir, do not pause and inquire, simply assume and refill.
    - Al Swearengen

    http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    StuffnJunk wrote:
    having read the excellent Neil Young biography "Shakey", i think this is the actual story, and the guy just got the name of the album wrong

    and the internet may be questionable, but you really can trust BOOKS!!!

    ps - a fansite listing every show an artist plays over a 40 year career - i'd say that is a pretty trustworthy source of info on that artist

    I take back what I said about BOOKS....can you believe Kim Neely's Five Against one? Hmmmm? I don't think so....
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    iluvcats wrote:
    brian vander ark, front man for the band from Michigan, The Verve Pipe
    http://www.myspace.com/thevervepipe

    do you remember the song in the nineties called The Freshmen? how about Photograph? the song Colorful (at the end of the movie Rockstar?) those are VP songs....he's gone solo.

    Oh yeah! I remember that band. They stunk. Hahahaa.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    Danimal wrote:
    Oh yeah! I remember that band. They stunk. Hahahaa.

    Nice.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
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