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Jeordie White/Twiggy going back to Manson

JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
edited January 2008 in Other Music
So how does the PJ board feel about this? People on the NIN boards seem kind of ambivalent, as am I, and on the AFI board people seem happy.
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  • audiodaveaudiodave Posts: 1,623
    Makes little difference to me, as i'm not a Manson fan. I liked Jeordie as a part of NIN, but not enough to follow his future carreer choices.
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  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    wasn't he in A Perfect Circle as well? that's the best band he was in.
  • audiodaveaudiodave Posts: 1,623
    MLC2006 wrote:
    wasn't he in A Perfect Circle as well? that's the best band he was in.
    You're entitled to your opinion...but I wholeheartedly disagree. :)
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  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    audiodave wrote:
    You're entitled to your opinion...but I wholeheartedly disagree. :)

    which band was better than APC? Manson? if that's the answer, then my reply is "lol".
  • audiodaveaudiodave Posts: 1,623
    MLC2006 wrote:
    which band was better than APC? Manson? if that's the answer, then my reply is "lol".
    Nine Inch Nails. I said i'm not a Manson fan. But saying that i'm not a huge Tool or APC fan, but like I said, each to their own. :)
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  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    audiodave wrote:
    Nine Inch Nails. I said i'm not a Manson fan. But saying that i'm not a huge Tool or APC fan, but like I said, each to their own. :)

    well, that's arguable. but it's not actually like he was "member" of NIN, he was on tour with them. Trent Reznor is NIN, it's not like Twiggy actually influenced or produced any of the music.
  • audiodaveaudiodave Posts: 1,623
    MLC2006 wrote:
    well, that's arguable. but it's not actually like he was "member" of NIN, he was on tour with them. Trent Reznor is NIN, it's not like Twiggy actually influenced or produced any of the music.
    Very good point indeed. If you look at it that way, I would probably be inclined to agree with you oringal post. Though I have absolutely no idea to what degree he is able to influence the music of Manson/APC.
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  • a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,923
    MLC2006 wrote:
    wasn't he in A Perfect Circle as well? that's the best band he was in.


    I was gonna say, that's the only person named Jeordie i've ever heard of.
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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    manson's just a dumbed-down version of alice cooper who takes himself way too seriously. At least Rob Zombie is able to see the joke and has a sense of humor about it.
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  • Matty BoyMatty Boy Posts: 421
    This is a funny cartoon about Jeordie going back to Manson.
    http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/cartoon031.htm
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    godpt3 wrote:
    manson's just a dumbed-down version of alice cooper who takes himself way too seriously. At least Rob Zombie is able to see the joke and has a sense of humor about it.

    Agree about zombie, but not Alice Cooper, prob my least favourite 'musician' ever, almost as bad as kiss.....

    I like Manson's intelligence......he always comes across thoughtful and genuinely interested in the arts.....
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  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    I like Manson's intelligence......he always comes across thoughtful and genuinely interested in the arts.....

    I have almost the opposite opinion. I never even really thought of Marilyn Manson as a "band", they always reminded me more of a pre-manufactured product rather than a band. I guess that's how it strikes me when image takes precedence over the actual music.
  • mensanemensane Posts: 912
    well, considering how f*@%ed up jeordie was when he played seattle with goon moon (his side project), i would say he would be a better fit with manson than with nin.
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    MLC2006 wrote:
    I have almost the opposite opinion. I never even really thought of Marilyn Manson as a "band", they always reminded me more of a pre-manufactured product rather than a band. I guess that's how it strikes me when image takes precedence over the actual music.


    They seem more that way now i agree.....

    But i remember when antichrist came out, that was pretty cool.....
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  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    MLC2006 wrote:
    I have almost the opposite opinion. I never even really thought of Marilyn Manson as a "band", they always reminded me more of a pre-manufactured product rather than a band. I guess that's how it strikes me when image takes precedence over the actual music.


    They seem more that way now i agree.....

    But i remember when antichrist superstar came out, that was pretty cool.....

    Could just be a personal thing, i was 13 and impressionable lol.....
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  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    MLC2006 wrote:
    I have almost the opposite opinion. I never even really thought of Marilyn Manson as a "band", they always reminded me more of a pre-manufactured product rather than a band. I guess that's how it strikes me when image takes precedence over the actual music.


    They seem more that way now i agree.....

    But i remember when antichrist superstar came out, that was pretty cool.....

    Could just be a personal thing, i was 13 and impressionable lol.....
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  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    MLC2006 wrote:
    I have almost the opposite opinion. I never even really thought of Marilyn Manson as a "band", they always reminded me more of a pre-manufactured product rather than a band. I guess that's how it strikes me when image takes precedence over the actual music.


    They seem more that way now i agree.....

    But i remember when antichrist superstar came out, that was pretty cool.....

    Could just be a personal thing, i was 13 and impressionable lol.....
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    They seem more that way now i agree.....

    But i remember when antichrist superstar came out, that was pretty cool.....

    Could just be a personal thing, i was 13 and impressionable lol.....


    ok! ok! you said it 4 times! just kidding.

    I was a little older and my impression was, when they broke out with the "Sweet Dreams" cover, they WERE something new. there was never anything that creepy or satanic or whatever in the mainstream. and they were making big news at that time everywhere they played for having crazy live shows, spitting on each other and hurting each other onstage, etc. but somewhere between that album and the Antichrist Superstar album, they got real famous and the joke just got more old. then he's on tv in an ass-less outfit, then he's dressed like a Nazi, then he's got tits. it became all shock, all the time, and everything took a backseat to the "hey, I'm the most outrageous person on earth" schtick. even though I admit there were some decent songs on that Antichrist Superstar album, I just couldn't get past the fact that the band was a complete joke.
  • Joe2TheRevengeJoe2TheRevenge Posts: 904
    Here's the thing...

    when he was with Manson, he was GREAT

    When he tried to fill in for Paz in A Perfect Circle, he was a let-down

    and when he got the gig in NIN, he was average at best.

    so hopefully he can keep the credibility he gained with APC and NIN by not being a fucking junkie again, but make a sweet album with Manson we can rock the fuck out to.

    That's my opinion.
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  • ScotInAmsterdamScotInAmsterdam Posts: 1,004
    audiodave wrote:
    Though I have absolutely no idea to what degree he is able to influence the music of Manson/APC.

    I don't really get Marilyn Manson, all seems a bit cheap and obvious to me, but I have to confess I've never really listened.

    My understanding is that Jeordie wrote most of the music when he was in Manson:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Manson_%28band%29#Composition_and_songwriting

    So it was probably quite frustrating being in Nine Inch Nails, where it is well known that your creative input will be minimal. That said, I really don't see what musical challenge there is in Manson. It smells like he followed the green dollar.
  • Gossard_Is_GodGossard_Is_God Posts: 1,031
    when i heard the news I got a stiffy thats for sure. Shame he didnt come back before I saw Manson Live last month, which was a huge dissapointment, rolll on the next album
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