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MOST "FANS" PAID NOTHING for Radiohead album

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edited November 2007 in Other Music
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8SOC7200&show_article=1

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  • pjtaperpjtaper Posts: 3,020
    I paid nothing... why? Because the last 2 Radiohead albums before this one were HORRIBLE, and I bought them both... I'm not a fan of this new one either...
  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    pjtaper wrote:
    I paid nothing... why? Because the last 2 Radiohead albums before this one were HORRIBLE, and I bought them both... I'm not a fan of this new one either...



    Hrm. Can't say I agree with this. I loved Amnesiac and HTTT was pretty good. This one is better than both, though.
  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    pjtaper wrote:
    I paid nothing... why? Because the last 2 Radiohead albums before this one were HORRIBLE, and I bought them both... I'm not a fan of this new one either...

    I totally agree.

    I really gave the new one a go, and whilst it has its moments, it's nothing on their past records in my opinion. There was a time when Thom Yorke used to sing, but his voice seems to be reduced to a crying whine these days.

    I understand why people like the later albums, but they don't really feature any of the aspects that drew me to Radiohead in the first place. That 3 pronged guitar attack used to sound incredible on songs like The Bends, My Iron Lung and Just. To me they are just a pretentious bunch of musos these days. Nothing about the new stuff excites me at all.

    I still totally respect what they did with the new album though. I would be interested to know how much money they have made in total .
  • mulva9mulva9 Posts: 417
    I don't really place too much validity on this "research."
  • itsevobabyitsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    it has moments of greatness, but the greatness is pretty subtle these days
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  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    I really like the new album, but that's not the point.

    You know what they say: ask a silly question, get a silly answer. Or maybe that should be charge nothing for your cd, don't be surprised if you get zilch back.
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    pjtaper wrote:
    I paid nothing... why? Because the last 2 Radiohead albums before this one were HORRIBLE, and I bought them both... I'm not a fan of this new one either...

    why did you buy the new one at all than. I dont blame the fans paying next to nothing for it. People aren't made of money and if there is a cheap deal out there they will take it for as little as possible.
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,953
    1.2 million downloaded the album, 38 percent paid, average payment of 6 bucks, 100% royalties.

    they made 2.74 million for leaking their album....poor fellas

    CD album to come... all royalties minus distribution label royalties
    80 dollar vinyl to come... all royalties minus distribution

    tour to come

    merchandise sales to come

    copyright/publishing royalties

    I hope they'll be able to survive
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  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,240
    mulva9 wrote:
    I don't really place too much validity on this "research."


    I don't either they polled a few hundred people? I do'nt know if the sample size is large enough to produce a valid result.

    I could see it being a lot lower or a lot higher i'm not sure.
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  • drew0drew0 Posts: 943
    (1) As it was pointed above, they still got over 2.5 million for leaking the album. Millions more will come with the box set, and even more millions with the upcoming tour and merchandise sales. And they haven't already made millions of their soldout shows of arenas across the country and chart topping albums, so I hope they'll still be able to feed themselves.

    (2) I have bought every one of their albums (except Amnesiac), for full price. I don't really feel bad about receiving their latest album for free. As it was said before, it had it's moment of greatness but was on par with the last two albums. Certainly no OK Computer or the Bends (but...what is, really).

    (3) If they didn't want people to buy it for free, they wouldn't have done that.

    (4) I would reason that a large percentage of their fanbase is college students to young adults (20-30). Do you really expect broke college students to pay for something that they could get for free?
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,697
    mookeywrench wrote:
    1.2 million downloaded the album, 38 percent paid, average payment of 6 bucks, 100% royalties.

    they made 2.74 million for leaking their album....poor fellas

    CD album to come... all royalties minus distribution label royalties
    80 dollar vinyl to come... all royalties minus distribution

    tour to come

    merchandise sales to come

    copyright/publishing royalties

    I hope they'll be able to survive

    it cost money to record an album...and publishing royalties, though the band get some back, are paid out of the album sales.
  • MattCameronKicksButtMattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    but why did they do this? Is it well documented? Does anyone know?
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    pjtaper wrote:
    I paid nothing... why? Because the last 2 Radiohead albums before this one were HORRIBLE, and I bought them both... I'm not a fan of this new one either...

    Get real. Radiohead's last 2 albums were brilliant and so is this one. I've already listened to this new one about 30 times which is 28 more times than I listened to "Avocado".
  • pjtaperpjtaper Posts: 3,020
    JWBusher wrote:
    Get real. Radiohead's last 2 albums were brilliant and so is this one. I've already listened to this new one about 30 times which is 28 more times than I listened to "Avocado".
    Well, I'm pretty sure you are on the wrong message board...
  • morockamorocka Posts: 26
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    it cost money to record an album...and publishing royalties, though the band get some back, are paid out of the album sales.

    Studio time and a producer like Nigel Goodrich are costly, however they prob. have their own studio at this point and would only be paying the producer.
    Does anyone know if Goodrich produced this one for sure, or did they do it themselves?
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    probably would have made more if they just set a price.
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Just out of curiosity, why is "fans" in quotation marks in the title?
  • JellyrollsJellyrolls Posts: 523
    You make it sound like a bad thing that people didn't buy it. Radiohead put it on the internet for people to choose how they wanted to get the album. If they cared about how much they make, they would have set a price.
  • lukins fridgelukins fridge Posts: 237
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Just out of curiosity, why is "fans" in quotation marks in the title?

    are you being sarcastic? it's because they must not be fans if they are not giving the band money for their music....actually the quotes are sarcasim

    anyway, i like this album alot, but Radiohead has entered Pearl Jam realm for me...i'll pretty much like anything they put out. i'm biased.

    that study is b.s...over a million downloaded it, but only 200 polled...ummmmmm that's not exactly how it works.
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  • wickedmonkeyzwickedmonkeyz Posts: 489
    I have not downloaded In Rainbows yet, but if I do I can tell you that knowing a proper cd release is in the near future will affect how much I pay...probably would not pay nothing, but I wouldn't pay a normal album price when that is not what is being offered...I'm not bothered by it, Radiohead will get my money when the album with artwork is out in stores, not to mention when they finally go out and tour again
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  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    My band has sold about 300 cd's since we released it. It has been downloaded via filesharing sites (for free/illegaly) over 1200 times.

    Radioheads check book is the least of my worries. The industry is all just a mess from the top to the bottom

    I paid $0 and I will pay full price when an actual cd is released, most people however, i am sure will not.
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  • thecrackedjackthecrackedjack Posts: 148
    If I can get something free legally, you bet your ass I'm going to take it.
  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    who cares if no one is paying, artists don't make shit off album sales anyway, and I don't think the album is that great to be honest with you, and I'm a HUGE radiohead fan, the HTTT album was the best they've put out since OK Computer in my opinion, I think I read somewere that the album has already been downloaded a couple million times, do you think that if they released it in stores only it would have sold 2 million already? Hell no it wouldn't, there music is getting out their to more people than it would if released instores only, thats all that matters!
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  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    So what if they paid nothing?! If someone gives me the option of paying ten pounds or nothing for something, in my opinion im going to have to be an idiot for paying 10 pounds, and its not like Radiohead need the money anyway. If it was an upcoming band who needed it id pay, although i doubt they'd give it away for free anyway.
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    That this was based only on a few houndred asked is pretty undercommunicated in that story.

    Anyway, the story is not that 62% did not pay, but that 38% actually did! They gave it away, and still 38% of the few houndred polled paid, and on average 6$.

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  • ScotInAmsterdamScotInAmsterdam Posts: 1,004
    Damn them - they're business plan worked. I've not knowingly listened to anything since OK Computer, and I'm downloading their new stuff now. If I like it, I might give them money in some way in the future!!!

    Incidentally I paid $5 for Saul Williams new album, more to support the business model/Reznor than anything else.

    Incidentally to the incidentally, Radiohead didn’t spend much time on web design, it’s a pretty laborious process of getting the album, considering it’s free.

    [Edit]In fact, I went through the whole thing and got told that my code had already been used. I give up. If I decide I want it, I’ll download it from the tried and tested illegal means, as they are far more usable.[/edit]
  • blacknapkinsblacknapkins Posts: 2,177
    "In response to purely speculative figures announced in the press regarding the number of downloads and the price paid for the album, the group's representatives would like to remind people that, as the album could only be downloaded from the band's website, it is impossible for outside organisations to have accurate figures on sales," they explained."

    Got this here: http://www.nme.com/news/radiohead/32393

    Now they can stop publishing all of these lies.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I'm pretty sure that I need the money more than Radiohead does. I probably would not have got the album, seeing as how I've never been a huge fan (not that I dislike them). I paid nothing and downloaded it out of curiosity...I will support them if they decide to play a concert somewhere close.
  • blacknapkinsblacknapkins Posts: 2,177
    PJPOWER wrote:
    I'm pretty sure that I need the money more than Radiohead does. I probably would not have got the album, seeing as how I've never been a huge fan (not that I dislike them). I paid nothing and downloaded it out of curiosity...I will support them if they decide to play a concert somewhere close.

    I'm pretty sure we all need whatever money we have more than any of these artists do. Since I really love this band, and I really wanted the whole package, I treated myself to it (as my family's only Christmas present to me ... since apparently I even have to shop for myself ... but that's a rant for another day.) I'm sure the band doesn't really mind that people downloaded it for free out of curiousity. They've made their money, and will make more when they tour, so it's all good.
    "Information is not knowledge.
    Knowledge is not wisdom.
    Wisdom is not truth.
    Truth is not beauty.
    Beauty is not love.
    Love is not music.
    Music is the best."
    ~ FZ ~
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    blacknapkins wrote:
    I'm pretty sure we all need whatever money we have more than any of these artists do. Since I really love this band, and I really wanted the whole package, I treated myself to it (as my family's only Christmas present to me ... since apparently I even have to shop for myself ... but that's a rant for another day.) I'm sure the band doesn't really mind that people downloaded it for free out of curiousity. They've made their money, and will make more when they tour, so it's all good.
    Exactly, I think it's a great marketting scheme. They're getting their name out there to people that might not have been a fan or even know who they are. I really don't think they hurt themselves in any way by giving away their music.
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