Guided by Voices - Bee Thousand

transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
edited May 2006 in Other Music
Ok, so I have had this CD for about 12 years. It was released to critical acclaim and that acclaim hasn't stopped to this day. I have continued to read for 12 years that this CD is simply astounding.

I think it is borderline mediocre at best. I give it a few spins a couple times a year and as I type I don't think I could name one song, lyric or note. I have written it off as me not enjoying lo-fi in general but now I don't know. It is probably 1 of 5 CD's I own that it downright pisses me off I don't like it.

So......if anyone out there has this and would like to help, please explain why you like it. Give me a song that does it for you (spare me the 'whole thing is incredible') I want a specific song and why you like it. A certain lyric that you love? let's hear it. A certain story behind these songs? give it to me.

Also, is there a certain setting where you like this the most? dingy bar after 4 drinks? a rainy day over coffee in the morning?

So basically anything you can think of that may push this CD to the top of my collection would be cool. I pretty much dusted it off about 30 minutes ago and I'm ready.
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  • EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    look if you don't want it mail it to me.

    but

    "Goldheart Mountaintop Directory"
    "Gold Star For Robot Boy"
    "Buzzards And Dreadful Crows"
    "Tractor Rape Chain"

    all do it for me. I can't really go into any more since I have to jet for work, but hopefully stoneg82 will have a few choice words to add.
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  • lukins fridgelukins fridge Posts: 237
    i like mincer ray. it has a great progression in there and the guitar is so catchy.

    maybe you can't figure out why you like it because the same things that might make the album "bad" in some minds, is actually what is adored by others:

    -the garage band riffs (which are catchy as hell)
    -the terrible sound quality
    -the experimental filler songs
    -pollard's voice (takes a while to get used to - i love it)
    -the psuedo pop songs (is it pop, is it rock, what is this?)

    does that help?
    Those undecided,........ Needn't have faith to be free
    And those misguided, There was a plan for them to be
    Now you got both sides Claiming killing in Gods name
    But God is nowhere,..... To be found, conveniently

    What goes on?
  • StoneG82StoneG82 Posts: 806
    here is what I want you to do:

    take out B000, stick it in your stereo. Crank the volume, and play track number three. "Tractor Rape Chain"

    First off, that was one of the first GBV songs I ever heard, and was the one (along with Game of Pricks) that got me hooked. It starts off with Bob strumming an acoustic guitar, theres some voices in the back and you can hear what sounds like a door creaking open. All this makes me think of is Bob sitting in his house, playing guitar, when the band walks in and just starts playing. Thats basically why I love this record so much. It represents something that I've always wanted to do, and that's get some buddies together and record a masterpiece record in my basement. Bob Pollard made that dream seem very accessible with this record, along with all of his other lo-fi masterpieces.

    "Why is it every time I think about you
    Something that you have said or implied makes me doubt you"

    If that song doesn't make you have some new found appreciation for B000.....then I don't know how to help you.

    2nd of all, I'd definitely say the best setting for any GBV record is probably the bar. (or wherever you are gonna have a good time, maybe drink some beer, hang out with some buddies, etc.)

    Honestly man, I know you don't wanna hear it, but that whole record is just incredible. From the opening riff of "Hardcore UFO's" to the closing piano of ""Your Not an Airplane".....it's just a masterpiece.

    Robert Pollard took some songs and created this very dreamlike world with B000.......from the goldheart mountaintop to the queen of cans and jars.
    "What’s Orphans? I don’t know. Orphans is a dead end kid driving a coffin with big tires across the Ohio River wearing welding goggles and a wife beater with a lit firecracker in his ear." - Tom Waits
  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    -the garage band riffs (which are catchy as hell)
    -the terrible sound quality
    -the experimental filler songs
    -pollard's voice (takes a while to get used to - i love it)
    -the psuedo pop songs (is it pop, is it rock, what is this?)

    does that help?
    cool. I can pretty much forgive all but the terrible sound quality. I don't know why any band would do it on purpose. if this CD was off the cuff, done in one take on a 4 track found in grandma's attic, I can appreciate that. If they had the time and equipment to do better but didn't care enough, I have an issue with it. I won't assume why they did it, though I wish I could hear these songs live or something. too bad I am a little late on that one.

    pollard's voice doesn't bother me, the experimental filler songs are short enough not to care. I have given it 3 spins today while driving around town running errands. I found myself scratching my head why some of these songs never did it for me, as some are extremely catchy. I am not getting overly excited yet but I am encouraged.
  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    StoneG82 wrote:
    here is what I want you to do:

    take out B000, stick it in your stereo. Crank the volume, and play track number three. "Tractor Rape Chain"
    excellent post. I will do this as soon as I get it out of the car. still got crap to do today so I am keeping it in there for now.

    I do wish the thing would flow a little better, at times you feel like this disc is a collection of B-sides taken from a period of 15 years. Dylan's Basement Tapes is probably the greatest example of how to make this sort of disc work however this is a small gripe.

    Is this your favorite GbV disc? I have kicked around purchasing Alien Lanes next but not exactly sure. they have too much material to guess.
  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    Echoes wrote:
    look if you don't want it mail it to me.
    ok. it actually wouldn't be the first time I have done it before.
  • StoneG82StoneG82 Posts: 806
    transplant wrote:

    Is this your favorite GbV disc? I have kicked around purchasing Alien Lanes next but not exactly sure. they have too much material to guess.

    honestly, no...it's not my favorite GBV disc.

    that would have to go to Same place the Fly Got Smashed.

    B000 is arguably the best record they did, but it's not my favorite.

    Alien Lanes is great.....you should check it out. I preferred it to B000 for quite a while. Alien Lanes is like listening to random radio stations from mars really late at night, if that made any sense. Each song sounds different from the last. It's all over the place.

    I bet you would like Alien Lanes better than B000, in fact. Most (if not all) of my friends claim it as their favorite GBV disc.
    "What’s Orphans? I don’t know. Orphans is a dead end kid driving a coffin with big tires across the Ohio River wearing welding goggles and a wife beater with a lit firecracker in his ear." - Tom Waits
  • It's fucking GBV. If you don't get it fuck you.

    Just kidding.
  • mark armmark arm Posts: 962
    Bob Pollard is a brilliant songwriter.
    that should be enough for you mate.
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  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    I played I Am a Scientist 5 times straight on my way to work. I am not exactly sure what I have been thinking for the past 12 years. though the filler crap keeps this from being a landmark, the approximately 8 to 10 catchy songs makes this disc extremely good.
  • EchoesEchoes Posts: 1,279
    The filler crap on this album is about 6 times better than the filler crap on most albums I've heard, namely Tool and hip-hop albums. Glad you're enjoying it, though
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