Delay

mccreadyisgod

ianvomsaal wrote:

Evan's (Edge) early Memory Man's needed to be rebuilt all the time because
they broke down a lot on tour (so I've read), I'd go for the newer one.

On those early tours when he still used a Memory Man, he would use two of them on his pedalboard at a time, but rumor has it he toured with a dozen of them, and whichever two were working that day were the ones he used. Memory Man's are notorious for working fine one time and being completely useless another, and then being fine the next time after that.

If I remember right, he still tours with several backups to his vintage Vox AC-30's for a very similar reason.

That being said... for the prototypical Edge delay sound, you really need a tap-tempo digital delay capable of 1/4, dotted-1/4, and 1/8th note delays. Using a mild form of modulation will also be very helpful. I'd recommend a Boss DD-5 with the external tap switch, and then follow that with maybe a very mild chorus like the Boss CE-5.

IDgotI

Everything written here about the vintage memory man pedals is correct. Sorry, my bad for the nod to the vintage pedal earlier. They do sound different than the reissue, but yeah, they are pretty unreliable. Mccreadyisgod is right (in my opinion) to give you the nod towards a digital again. I'm recommending the nova both because it's digital, and because it's by TC Electronic which is the real workhorse of Edge's live sound. Check those links on his sound YgoWash and I posted (same link as it turns out). TC Electronic rackmounts are the heart of his live setup. The Nova was just realeased and pretty much nails the same quality of sound as those, now vintage, once high end rack mount units. Is it difficult to set up? My vote is no... though it is very versatile, and has loads of features you may take a long time to get around to using, you can be up and running with a straight tap tempo sound pretty fast. It has modulation on it... or the slight bit of chorusing mccready recommends, and best of all.... it's the cheapest delay (I know of) with 24 bit processing. Other units with 24 bit converters are things like the T Rex which is $400, or the Blackbox Quicksilver, also $400. The Nova is $250... same price as the DL4 and not *too* much more than the DD20.

The DD 5, recommended above, is a standard solid work horse pedal, and you can get one for about $100, but then you need the tap tempo pedal which will run you another $20 - $50 depending on your ebay luck. It's a solid workhorse pedal... and man... the difference between no delay... and something like a DD5 will blow you away. Delay is amazing, and if you are a rhytmically inclined guitar player... it will open up incredible new avenues for you in your playing. You should not hesitate to just grab something like the dd5 if it's a choice between that and nothing. *BUT* if you have the loot for a memory man, or a DL4... I think you would be making a big mistake not to check out the Nova. FYI... the Nova only came out late last year, and barely made it out before wider retail distribution this year... so a lot of people on this board may not have even checked one out yet. It's not had a chance to become the flagship I have a hunch it will become. Here... check out this link:

http://forums.musictoyz.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4066066091/m/8481083064

People who have had a chance to AB it against current flagship semi (not quite) boutique pedals like the Dl4 and DD20 are giving it the... uh... edge. (crickets)... anyway... If I were buying just one delay right now and I had the money, I'd buy the Nova hands down. Remember (everyone else) the Dl4 and DD20 were new once too. Anyone in to delay should check out the Nova. It's a killer delay at the price and doesn't start to have a rival until things like the T Rex Replica or Blackbox Quicksilver... which have more "vintage" tones... but aren't anywhere near as versatile, and don't necessarily sound "better". In a year I believe everyone on this board will be hailing it as the new standard. (No... I don't work for TC Electronics, and I don't make money selling gear... I just play... and it's a killer delay).

PS... if anyone is wondering about the new eventide pedal... in my opinion it's a disapointment... not nearly as good as the nova.

Dogman3

Why is the eventide a disappointment?

I'll try out both, Eventide and Nova. But right now, Nova is more likely for me due to its price and size.

IDgotI

Dogman3 wrote:

Why is the eventide a disappointment?

Because it's $150 more, and doesn't really bring anything else to the table that the Nova doesn't have (unless you are planning to use it's MIDI features). On top of that it's bigger, and the controls are a bit more convoluted. It's a great sounding pedal, and if someone gave you one as a gift there would be no reason to return it. But if it's a choice between spending $250 on the Nova and $400 on the Eventide, I personally feel there is absolutely no reason to spend the extra loot. The Nova sounds great, and is a bit of a bargain. It's a bargain because it sounds better than anything else in it's price range, and as good as pedals costing much more.

Pearl Jam and toast

reaching hands wrote:

boss dd6 for digital delay

or try and find a 'tape echo' analogue pedal. i used to have thid DOD one which was awesome but can't remember what model it was but i used to get some great delay and sample delays out of it

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