Wireless

xtremehardy388

All right, I'm thinking of EVENTUALLY getting a wireless system for my guitar. However, I'm worried about how to hook it up. I'm going to use a cord from my pedal board to my amp but I want to go wireless between my board and my guitar. Now, I can hook up the bug on the guitar but how can I hook the receiver up to my pedals? Also, where would I put it, on the board.

exhausted

i would assume the receiver has a signal out that you patch to the pedals. i would also assume that it would go at the front of the chain.

ianvomsaal

Look more into wireless - the AKG Guitarbug is a toy.
If you've spent some time getting a decent sound and getting decent pedals,
something like that will kill your tone, and be more trouble than it's worth for
live performances - it's just a huge joke - No one use those AKG Guitarbugs
Performance-Wise. If you go with AKG you'll want to start with the The AKG
WMS 450. Other makes to start with are the Sennheiser ew172G2, Shure SLX.
If you truly need to go cheap cheap, get the Shure PGX14 (the lowest end).

Mike uses an old analog Sony WRR-820, but you're talking $$$$
Most live acts use a comparable system to the Shure UR14S
http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WirelessMicrophones/us_pro_UR14S_content
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-UR14S-Bodypack-Wireless-Instrument-System-?sku=270886
Or the Sennheiser 5000 series (like the SK5212), but again we're talking $$$.

I use a Shure PSM 600 for in ear monitors, & sometimes use a ULXP14 for my
guitar, but that completely depends on how large a venue I'm actually playing.
If you spend the $$$ on good instruments, amps, and effects, why get a cheap
wireless that sounds shoddy, breaks quickly, and will cut out on you in mid gig.

Here's a picture of the back of the Shure ULXP14 wireless I use. Take note the
Low-Z/High-Z outputs: http://es.shure.com/stellent/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_us/documents/web_resource/site_img_us_pro_ULXP4_l.jpg

xtremehardy388

I wasn't planning on getting the bug, I just didn't know what to call the piece that plugs into the guitar. I plan on getting not too cheap (which means I'll be waiting a while).

jcmark611

Before you spend the money on a wireless system, you should really look and see if you need one or not. There will be a loss of tone and the money you spend on the system could be spent on other items.

Do you play on large stages? There's much less signal loss in a 20-30 foot cable than a wireless system. If you are regularly playing on a stage where you are more than 20 feet away from your equipment, you need a wireless.

Are you extremely animated on stage? Do you make Pete Townshend look like a statue? You need a wireless.

If you answered no to both questions, you don't need a wireless. Spend the money on an Evidence Lyric cable. You will thank yourself.

xtremehardy388

Haha, I've ran OFF the stage, if that says anything. I'm very annimated. I didn't know there was tone loss, though

lucylespian

Cool idea, i want a wireless too. So I can walk around the house and still play.
A decent rig should not give you tone loss, otherwise touring pros would not use them.
I'll put it on my Xmas list, right under that nice Carvin strat I saw last week.
I'd be happy with this one
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-ULXP14-Instrument-Wireless-System?sku=270808

FinsburyParkCarrots

Fantastic with a blonde permed wig and a bottle of Cabo Wabo, for doing Sammy Hagar impressions.

xtremehardy388

lucylespian wrote:

Cool idea, i want a wireless too. So I can walk around the house and still play.
A decent rig should not give you tone loss, otherwise touring pros would not use them.
I'll put it on my Xmas list, right under that nice Carvin strat I saw last week.
I'd be happy with this one
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-ULXP14-Instrument-Wireless-System?sku=270808

Too rich for Christmas, on my end, maybe for spring.

ianvomsaal

xtremehardy388 wrote:

lucylespian wrote:

Cool idea, i want a wireless too. So I can walk around the house and still play.
A decent rig should not give you tone loss, otherwise touring pros would not use them.
I'll put it on my Xmas list, right under that nice Carvin strat I saw last week.
I'd be happy with this one
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-ULXP14-Instrument-Wireless-System?sku=270808

Too rich for Christmas, on my end, maybe for spring.

That ULXP14 is the same one use - yeah, there's always some tone loss when you go wireless.

jcmark611

Lets use this as an example. Listen to an FM radio station and compare that to listening to a CD. Anytime you broadcast a signal, it will become compressed and lose some high and low end. Also, it's much easier to pick up interference with a wireless.

This scene from Spinal Tap is based in reality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JiQCIzCZA at the 2:40 mark.

xtremehardy388

jcmark611 wrote:

Lets use this as an example. Listen to an FM radio station and compare that to listening to a CD. Anytime you broadcast a signal, it will become compressed and lose some high and low end. Also, it's much easier to pick up interference with a wireless.

This scene from Spinal Tap is based in reality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JiQCIzCZA at the 2:40 mark.

hahaha

PiKappCarolina

also remember, a new 9 volt every show! it gets expensive. the band i work for (who moves a ton and a shit load of energy) still uses cables. As in most major cities, you are going to have to do a lot of playing around with channels to not get interference from radio, police, fire etc...

On the rare occasion that one of my guitar players tries to move more than 30' , our guitar tech has to go move pedals and cabling. its pretty funny to watch though!