Strat here, hi guys. Cutting power

LifeWasted21

120 watt fender twin reverb II

Rumour has it you can take two of the tubes out and cut the power in half? This intrigues me. Will it ruin the other two tubes? i take the two correspdoning tubes out yea?

exhausted

my buddy, google, tells me:

http://www.londonpower.com/faq.htm

Q: In a magazine Q-A, a player wanted to pull tubes to reduce power, but the "expert" said this would cause a meltdown of the remaining tubes. Of course, it was suggested that the expert's attenuator product was the preferred way to go. Is any of this true?

A: This is a person who should know better!

Removing tubes from a multi-tube fixed-bias output stage is never a problem. You can remove any number of tubes, and yes, that means you can take one tube out of a two-tube amp; one, two, or three out of a four tube stage, et cetera. This sounds heretical to techs stuck in the mire of convention, but it is something that has been known since tubes were invented.

The even-number tube extractions reduce power symmetrically. Neither the tubes nor the transformer will be damaged. Power will be reduced and so will frequency bandwidth - you will lose some bass and some treble. This is the point that switching the impedance selector to a less-than-load setting is supposed to correct, but it is completely subjective whether you should. The only 'should' of the matter, is do I like it this way, or do I like it that way?

In the uneven tube extractions, asymmetric power reduction occurs. Conventional thought says "the one tube on one side of the circuit will be trying to match the output of the two tubes on the other circuit half". This is wrong. The single tube can only produce so much power, and that's all it does. It doesn't melt down. The transformer does not blow up.

So, what's missing from conventional thought? The realization that tubes are "self-limiting power governors", which was stated in The Ultimate Tone (TUT), and explored in more detail in TUT2 and TUT3. TUT4 explores all of this in great detail. Our "expert" should get a copy.

In the end, you can pull tubes to reduce power, unless the amp is cathode biased - then you have to split the bias resistor. In any case, you do not have to worry about the impedance selector either.

LifeWasted21

excellent. ill have to try this tonight when i get home! Hopefully i can push this amp at lower volumes

oh and most importantly, get in a band again.

thanks greg and google.

Pacomc79

Hey Greg, That's not from London Power is it. Sounds familiar. I think he wrote The TUT books.

That might be a good site to check out too. Kevin O'connor is a genius.

http://www.londonpower.com/books.htm

exhausted

yeah, i put the link at the top. it is from london power.

strat, just check that your amp is of the type where this tube pulling shenanigans is ok.