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gibson sg 61 reissue od deluxe ash strat?

seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
edited October 2006 in Musicians and Gearheads
ok, my birthday's on oct. 10, and i kno im getting money, cause i told all my relatives thats what i wanted.today, i was playing a bunch of guitars at a local store. i thought i wanted a sg classic, but i didnt after i played it:( and than i played a deluxe ash strat, and i was blown away! it was amazing, i could get so many tones outta that baby. so i figured id buy this one. and just as i was about to leave, i saw a few sgs the employees were just bringing out. the guy said that i could try them out, and i played the 61 reissue. that was amazing as well! i could get that angus young growl, that eric clapton "woman tone", to keith richards to mike mccready tone. i like them both soooo much, but i cant decide which to buy frist(i will eventually buy both lol:)) the sg had more tones, but the strat was a little more comfortable for me(because i am not used to sg's bodies). now my question is this, which should i buy first? thanks!
they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,205
    Your fuckin 13 years old and you have a american ash tele...and are going to have either a ash strat or 61 sg...thats fuckin nuts
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    Your fuckin 13 years old and you have a american ash tele...and are going to have either a ash strat or 61 sg...thats fuckin nuts
    cmon man, i did a helluva lotta landscape work for the tele, and my supersonic amp, and i dont have anything else to spend my birthday money on! and like my mom says, as long as i dont spend money on stupid things like video games, shes happy:)
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    forgot to say, its a deluxe ash tele lol
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    Your fuckin 13 years old and you have a american ash tele...and are going to have either a ash strat or 61 sg...thats fuckin nuts

    +1... Did you try the SG Standard? It may be comparable and I think its cheaper.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    keeponrockin wrote:
    +1... Did you try the SG Standard? It may be comparable and I think its cheaper.
    yeah, i tried my teacher's i really liked it, but i just felt like if i bought that id have to change the pickups, and it would end up costing me the same amt as buying the reissue
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    and why cant kids have nice things without being critized? yes, some irrespnsible ones shouldnt, but theres some like me that are very careful with our possesions, and dont take them for granted. i mean, a thirty yr old guy who is just as knoledged about guitars as me could have posted this, and no one could have critized them. and no, i dont just get my money from my parents(except birthdays) for my guitars, i work too!
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • who's_pearljam?who's_pearljam? Posts: 2,104
    seanw1010 wrote:
    and why cant kids have nice things without being critized? yes, some irrespnsible ones shouldnt, but theres some like me that are very careful with our possesions, and dont take them for granted. i mean, a thirty yr old guy who is just as knoledged about guitars as me could have posted this, and no one could have critized them. and no, i dont just get my money from my parents(except birthdays) for my guitars, i work too!

    I think it's good that you're getting something that you like and will use, and take care of.

    I bought my first guitar when I was 12, in 1965 when I saw Keith Richards on TV! I got it with paper route money.
    It's wild that here it is 41 years later and you want Keith Richard's sound, too, and he's is still on tour as we speak!! :cool:
    My first guitar was a 57 Les Paul Gold Top for $250 bucks. It wasn't vintage then, just a guitar that you buy. Man am I glad I bought that thing! I made a career out of playing guitar for 20 years or so.

    So if you like the sound of the SG better than the Strat, and the guitar is your style, I'd go for that one. You can get used to the body pretty quickly.

    They're both great sit on the couch and play guitars because the cord comes out the front, and doesnt kepp tangled in the couch cushions. Or am I the only one that has that problem? :D
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    who's_pearljam? wrote:
    I think it's good that you're getting something that you like and will use, and take care of.

    I bought my first guitar when I was 12, in 1965 when I saw Keith Richards on TV! I got it with paper route money.
    It's wild that here it is 41 years later and you want Keith Richard's sound, too, and he's is still on tour as we speak!! :cool:
    My first guitar was a 57 Les Paul Gold Top for $250 bucks. It wasn't vintage then, just a guitar that you buy. Man am I glad I bought that thing! I made a career out of playing guitar for 20 years or so.

    So if you like the sound of the SG better than the Strat, and the guitar is your style, I'd go for that one. You can get used to the body pretty quickly.

    They're both great sit on the couch and play guitars because the cord comes out the front, and doesnt kepp tangled in the couch cushions. Or am I the only one that has that problem? :D
    thanks man:)
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    seanw1010 wrote:
    and why cant kids have nice things without being critized? yes, some irrespnsible ones shouldnt, but theres some like me that are very careful with our possesions, and dont take them for granted. i mean, a thirty yr old guy who is just as knoledged about guitars as me could have posted this, and no one could have critized them. and no, i dont just get my money from my parents(except birthdays) for my guitars, i work too!

    I'm in the same boat as you are. If you like the RI, go for it. Also remember, you should check out more then Gibson and Fender. Some other brand may have exactly what your lookin for.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I'm in the same boat as you are. If you like the RI, go for it. Also remember, you should check out more then Gibson and Fender. Some other brand may have exactly what your lookin for.
    i tried some carvins a few months ago, they had the best action i ever played, great sound, but i just cant get past the shape
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    I'm kind of the same way, unless it says Fender or Gibson on the headstock, I'm not that interested. Although I did play an Epiphone Casino at GC today and dug it, through a 59 Bassman, so that probably helped.

    But my two cents, I'd go for the SG. I'd get a '61 Reissue if I didn't already have an SG Special.
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    moster78 wrote:
    I'm kind of the same way, unless it says Fender or Gibson on the headstock, I'm not that interested. Although I did play an Epiphone Casino at GC today and dug it, through a 59 Bassman, so that probably helped.

    But my two cents, I'd go for the SG. I'd get a '61 Reissue if I didn't already have an SG Special.
    most of the people ive asked are aiming towards the sg as well....
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,205
    moster78 wrote:
    I'm kind of the same way, unless it says Fender or Gibson on the headstock, I'm not that interested. Although I did play an Epiphone Casino at GC today and dug it, through a 59 Bassman, so that probably helped.

    But my two cents, I'd go for the SG. I'd get a '61 Reissue if I didn't already have an SG Special.

    Why are we so cool?

    Oh, I forgot, we both have Teal SG Specials :D

    I can't wait until November when I get my deluxe ash strat :D...I will own the name "tone"
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    Why are we so cool?

    Oh, I forgot, we both have Teal SG Specials :D

    I can't wait until November when I get my deluxe ash strat :D...I will own the name "tone"
    what color and neck are you gonna end up getting the deluxe ash in? ive always been a fan of a tobacco with maple myself
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Ya, I'd go with the SG if that's what you liked the most. Plus it's totally different from the Fender. Are any lower end PRS's in your range? I don't know, just a thought.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Ya, I'd go with the SG if that's what you liked the most. Plus it's totally different from the Fender. Are any lower end PRS's in your range? I don't know, just a thought.
    hell no! no PRS' s lol
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,205
    seanw1010 wrote:
    what color and neck are you gonna end up getting the deluxe ash in? ive always been a fan of a tobacco with maple myself

    tobacco and rosewood

    i hate fender maple necks
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  • moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    Why are we so cool?

    Oh, I forgot, we both have Teal SG Specials :D

    I can't wait until November when I get my deluxe ash strat :D...I will own the name "tone"

    Yeah, great axe, for sure. One of the things I'm saving for / lusting after is new pickups and hardware for it. I'm thinking a 57 classic in the neck, and a 57 classic plus in the bridge and maybe upgrade the hardware from chrome to nickel, and a new pickguard as mine has a crack around the screw hole, and that just irks me!

    I've been kind of digging a MIM tele lately with a maple neck. I never thought I'd like maple, but its growing on me.
  • ianvomsaalianvomsaal Posts: 1,224
    Okay, I own a few of each guitar you've been talking about (I have a real 61-SG, RI-61-SG's, SG-Custom's, US-Strat's & US-Tele's {Deluxe, Plus, CustomShop, ect}, plus many, many more kinds of guitars). Honestly, I use everything depending on what kind of sound and feel I'm looking for. Anyhow, here's my 2-cents . . .

    Between the two, overall I'd say to go with the 61-SG or SG-Custom (get an SG with a small pickguard or NO pickguard). DON'T get the SG-Special or SG-Standard - they're cheap imitations of the real thing, and don't sound as good (and the pickups are mounted in a pickguard so you loose some of the tone - plastic will do that). The SG has a bit of a better neck (set-neck not bolted on), a smoother feel, and a little more sustain than a Strat (but I would get rid of the top-hat knobs and put on Gibson's speed knobs, overall they just seem to work better).

    Remember, you can always do what Jimmy Page did and coil tap those humbuckers if you want a single-coil sound (PRS does this on most of their guitars). Jimmy Page was known to be a chameleon since he could make one guitar sound like another (the coil-tapping and phase switching helped). Yeah, Page used a Telecaster to record "Stairway to Heaven" (and most of their early stuff), but once he got the Les Paul he coil-tapped it so he could also get those Fender sounds.

    Anyhow, between the Strat and the SG I'd say to go with the SG - just make sure you really look the guitar over well, and play every single one you're thinking about buying (don't mail order it) - Gibson's craftsmanship has been very "hit or miss" over the past 10 years, and you never know what kind of shit guitar slipped through their quality control (many many more than you think). Remember, you're paying a bit more for the Gibson name (but then again, Gibson's tend to hold their value a little better than Fender's, and Gibson's resale value is better). Cheers . . .

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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    ianvomsaal wrote:
    Okay, I own a few of each guitar you've been talking about (I have a real 61-SG, RI-61-SG's, SG-Custom's, US-Strat's & US-Tele's {Deluxe, Plus, CustomShop, ect}, plus many, many more kinds of guitars). Honestly, I use everything depending on what kind of sound and feel I'm looking for. Anyhow, here's my 2-cents . . .

    Between the two, overall I'd say to go with the 61-SG or SG-Custom (get an SG with a small pickguard or NO pickguard). DON'T get the SG-Special or SG-Standard - they're cheap imitations of the real thing, and don't sound as good (and the pickups are mounted in a pickguard so you loose some of the tone - plastic will do that). The SG has a bit of a better neck (set-neck not bolted on), a smoother feel, and a little more sustain than a Strat (but I would get rid of the top-hat knobs and put on Gibson's speed knobs, overall they just seem to work better).

    Remember, you can always do what Jimmy Page did and put a coil tap on those humbuckers if you want a single-coil sound (PRS also does this). Page was known to be a chameleon since he could make one guitar sound like another (the coil-tapping and phase switching helped). Yeah, Page used a Telecaster to record "Stairway to Heaven" (and most of their early stuff), but once he got the Les Paul he coil-tapped it so he could also get those Fender sounds.

    Anyhow, between the Strat and the SG I'd say to go with the SG - just make sure you really look the guitar over well, and play every single one you're thinking about buying (don't mail order it) - Gibson's craftsmanship has been very "hit or miss" over the past 10 years, and you never know what kind of shit guitar slipped through their quality control (many many more than you think). Remember, you're paying a bit more for the Gibson name (but then again, Gibson's tend to hold their value a little better than Fender's, and Gibson's resale value is better). Cheers . . .

    - Ian C.T. vom Saal
    thanks!
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    And when you get it, we need a full review!
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • NovawindNovawind Posts: 836
    moster78 wrote:
    I'm kind of the same way, unless it says Fender or Gibson on the headstock, I'm not that interested. Although I did play an Epiphone Casino at GC today and dug it, through a 59 Bassman, so that probably helped.

    But my two cents, I'd go for the SG. I'd get a '61 Reissue if I didn't already have an SG Special.

    My sentiments as well.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Novawind wrote:
    My sentiments as well.

    I thought like that when I had about $600 CDN to spend. I was looking at Epi LPs and Mexi strats. Well, the sales guy said, 'Try this Godin'.... I did and never looked back. Seriously, the guitar smoked both of them. sean, I reccomend that brand. http://www.godinguitars.com Killer guitars, killer prices, Canadian/American made.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Drew263Drew263 Posts: 602
    seanw1010 wrote:
    and why cant kids have nice things without being critized? yes, some irrespnsible ones shouldnt, but theres some like me that are very careful with our possesions, and dont take them for granted. i mean, a thirty yr old guy who is just as knoledged about guitars as me could have posted this, and no one could have critized them. and no, i dont just get my money from my parents(except birthdays) for my guitars, i work too!

    Hey..I'm 32 and think that if you're working for these or just using b'day money, that's great. You could be doing a lot worse and a lot dumber.

    Why not buy nice guitars if you can? :D
  • NovawindNovawind Posts: 836
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I thought like that when I had about $600 CDN to spend. I was looking at Epi LPs and Mexi strats. Well, the sales guy said, 'Try this Godin'.... I did and never looked back. Seriously, the guitar smoked both of them. sean, I reccomend that brand. http://www.godinguitars.com Killer guitars, killer prices, Canadian/American made.

    Is Godin the company that makes/owns Art & Luthrie? Just saw that on their intro page.

    I haven't seen Godin at any local guitar shops. Would GC carry them? I was thinking about stopping by Bakersfield for a guitar browsing trip sometime this month.

    Edit: Scratch that. Just found a shop 30 minutes away instead. :) Which model do you have?
    If idle hands are the devil's workshop, he must not be very productive.

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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    Drew263 wrote:
    Hey..I'm 32 and think that if you're working for these or just using b'day money, that's great. You could be doing a lot worse and a lot dumber.

    Why not buy nice guitars if you can? :D
    yeah man, most of my friends are talking about getting a nintendo thingy for christmas, with the exception of one of my friends whos as into guitars as i. i just want somethingguitar related, not video game crap that will be"outdated" in a few years, therefor they will have to waste more money on that new system, and so forth.
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    once you get used to the body of an sg, everything else feels wrong.... except for a strat.

    ha.
  • moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    exhausted wrote:
    once you get used to the body of an sg, everything else feels wrong.... except for a strat.

    ha.

    Amen to that. I'm still trying to get used to the LP Jr.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Novawind wrote:
    Is Godin the company that makes/owns Art & Luthrie? Just saw that on their intro page.

    I haven't seen Godin at any local guitar shops. Would GC carry them? I was thinking about stopping by Bakersfield for a guitar browsing trip sometime this month.

    Edit: Scratch that. Just found a shop 30 minutes away instead. :) Which model do you have?

    I have the Freeway Classic, and yes they make A&L, Seagull, Norman and Simon and Patrick.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Drew263Drew263 Posts: 602
    seanw1010 wrote:
    yeah man, most of my friends are talking about getting a nintendo thingy for christmas, with the exception of one of my friends whos as into guitars as i. i just want somethingguitar related, not video game crap that will be"outdated" in a few years, therefor they will have to waste more money on that new system, and so forth.

    well add to the fact that you're doing something that you will do the rest of your life. whereas video games you won't be playing 30 years from now...the guitar you still will be.
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