gibson sg 61 reissue od deluxe ash strat?

seanw1010

ok, my birthday's on oct. 10, and i kno im getting money, cause i told all my relatives thats what i wanted.today, i was playing a bunch of guitars at a local store. i thought i wanted a sg classic, but i didnt after i played it:( and than i played a deluxe ash strat, and i was blown away! it was amazing, i could get so many tones outta that baby. so i figured id buy this one. and just as i was about to leave, i saw a few sgs the employees were just bringing out. the guy said that i could try them out, and i played the 61 reissue. that was amazing as well! i could get that angus young growl, that eric clapton "woman tone", to keith richards to mike mccready tone. i like them both soooo much, but i cant decide which to buy frist(i will eventually buy both lol:)) the sg had more tones, but the strat was a little more comfortable for me(because i am not used to sg's bodies). now my question is this, which should i buy first? thanks!

HailHailVitalogy

Your fuckin 13 years old and you have a american ash tele...and are going to have either a ash strat or 61 sg...thats fuckin nuts

seanw1010

HailHailVitalogy wrote:

Your fuckin 13 years old and you have a american ash tele...and are going to have either a ash strat or 61 sg...thats fuckin nuts

cmon man, i did a helluva lotta landscape work for the tele, and my supersonic amp, and i dont have anything else to spend my birthday money on! and like my mom says, as long as i dont spend money on stupid things like video games, shes happy:)

seanw1010

forgot to say, its a deluxe ash tele lol

keeponrockin

HailHailVitalogy wrote:

Your fuckin 13 years old and you have a american ash tele...and are going to have either a ash strat or 61 sg...thats fuckin nuts

+1... Did you try the SG Standard? It may be comparable and I think its cheaper.

seanw1010

keeponrockin wrote:

+1... Did you try the SG Standard? It may be comparable and I think its cheaper.

yeah, i tried my teacher's i really liked it, but i just felt like if i bought that id have to change the pickups, and it would end up costing me the same amt as buying the reissue

seanw1010

and why cant kids have nice things without being critized? yes, some irrespnsible ones shouldnt, but theres some like me that are very careful with our possesions, and dont take them for granted. i mean, a thirty yr old guy who is just as knoledged about guitars as me could have posted this, and no one could have critized them. and no, i dont just get my money from my parents(except birthdays) for my guitars, i work too!

who's_pearljam?

seanw1010 wrote:

and why cant kids have nice things without being critized? yes, some irrespnsible ones shouldnt, but theres some like me that are very careful with our possesions, and dont take them for granted. i mean, a thirty yr old guy who is just as knoledged about guitars as me could have posted this, and no one could have critized them. and no, i dont just get my money from my parents(except birthdays) for my guitars, i work too!

I think it's good that you're getting something that you like and will use, and take care of.

I bought my first guitar when I was 12, in 1965 when I saw Keith Richards on TV! I got it with paper route money.
It's wild that here it is 41 years later and you want Keith Richard's sound, too, and he's is still on tour as we speak!! :cool:
My first guitar was a 57 Les Paul Gold Top for $250 bucks. It wasn't vintage then, just a guitar that you buy. Man am I glad I bought that thing! I made a career out of playing guitar for 20 years or so.

So if you like the sound of the SG better than the Strat, and the guitar is your style, I'd go for that one. You can get used to the body pretty quickly.

They're both great sit on the couch and play guitars because the cord comes out the front, and doesnt kepp tangled in the couch cushions. Or am I the only one that has that problem?

seanw1010

who's_pearljam? wrote:

I think it's good that you're getting something that you like and will use, and take care of.

I bought my first guitar when I was 12, in 1965 when I saw Keith Richards on TV! I got it with paper route money.
It's wild that here it is 41 years later and you want Keith Richard's sound, too, and he's is still on tour as we speak!! :cool:
My first guitar was a 57 Les Paul Gold Top for $250 bucks. It wasn't vintage then, just a guitar that you buy. Man am I glad I bought that thing! I made a career out of playing guitar for 20 years or so.

So if you like the sound of the SG better than the Strat, and the guitar is your style, I'd go for that one. You can get used to the body pretty quickly.

They're both great sit on the couch and play guitars because the cord comes out the front, and doesnt kepp tangled in the couch cushions. Or am I the only one that has that problem?

thanks man:)

keeponrockin

seanw1010 wrote:

and why cant kids have nice things without being critized? yes, some irrespnsible ones shouldnt, but theres some like me that are very careful with our possesions, and dont take them for granted. i mean, a thirty yr old guy who is just as knoledged about guitars as me could have posted this, and no one could have critized them. and no, i dont just get my money from my parents(except birthdays) for my guitars, i work too!

I'm in the same boat as you are. If you like the RI, go for it. Also remember, you should check out more then Gibson and Fender. Some other brand may have exactly what your lookin for.

seanw1010

keeponrockin wrote:

I'm in the same boat as you are. If you like the RI, go for it. Also remember, you should check out more then Gibson and Fender. Some other brand may have exactly what your lookin for.

i tried some carvins a few months ago, they had the best action i ever played, great sound, but i just cant get past the shape

moster78

I'm kind of the same way, unless it says Fender or Gibson on the headstock, I'm not that interested. Although I did play an Epiphone Casino at GC today and dug it, through a 59 Bassman, so that probably helped.

But my two cents, I'd go for the SG. I'd get a '61 Reissue if I didn't already have an SG Special.

seanw1010

moster78 wrote:

I'm kind of the same way, unless it says Fender or Gibson on the headstock, I'm not that interested. Although I did play an Epiphone Casino at GC today and dug it, through a 59 Bassman, so that probably helped.

But my two cents, I'd go for the SG. I'd get a '61 Reissue if I didn't already have an SG Special.

most of the people ive asked are aiming towards the sg as well....

HailHailVitalogy

moster78 wrote:

I'm kind of the same way, unless it says Fender or Gibson on the headstock, I'm not that interested. Although I did play an Epiphone Casino at GC today and dug it, through a 59 Bassman, so that probably helped.

But my two cents, I'd go for the SG. I'd get a '61 Reissue if I didn't already have an SG Special.

Why are we so cool?

Oh, I forgot, we both have Teal SG Specials

I can't wait until November when I get my deluxe ash strat ...I will own the name "tone"

seanw1010

HailHailVitalogy wrote:

Why are we so cool?

Oh, I forgot, we both have Teal SG Specials

I can't wait until November when I get my deluxe ash strat ...I will own the name "tone"

what color and neck are you gonna end up getting the deluxe ash in? ive always been a fan of a tobacco with maple myself

keeponrockin

Ya, I'd go with the SG if that's what you liked the most. Plus it's totally different from the Fender. Are any lower end PRS's in your range? I don't know, just a thought.

seanw1010

keeponrockin wrote:

Ya, I'd go with the SG if that's what you liked the most. Plus it's totally different from the Fender. Are any lower end PRS's in your range? I don't know, just a thought.

hell no! no PRS' s lol

HailHailVitalogy

seanw1010 wrote:

what color and neck are you gonna end up getting the deluxe ash in? ive always been a fan of a tobacco with maple myself

tobacco and rosewood

i hate fender maple necks

moster78

HailHailVitalogy wrote:

Why are we so cool?

Oh, I forgot, we both have Teal SG Specials

I can't wait until November when I get my deluxe ash strat ...I will own the name "tone"

Yeah, great axe, for sure. One of the things I'm saving for / lusting after is new pickups and hardware for it. I'm thinking a 57 classic in the neck, and a 57 classic plus in the bridge and maybe upgrade the hardware from chrome to nickel, and a new pickguard as mine has a crack around the screw hole, and that just irks me!

I've been kind of digging a MIM tele lately with a maple neck. I never thought I'd like maple, but its growing on me.

ianvomsaal

Okay, I own a few of each guitar you've been talking about (I have a real 61-SG, RI-61-SG's, SG-Custom's, US-Strat's & US-Tele's {Deluxe, Plus, CustomShop, ect}, plus many, many more kinds of guitars). Honestly, I use everything depending on what kind of sound and feel I'm looking for. Anyhow, here's my 2-cents . . .

Between the two, overall I'd say to go with the 61-SG or SG-Custom (get an SG with a small pickguard or NO pickguard). DON'T get the SG-Special or SG-Standard - they're cheap imitations of the real thing, and don't sound as good (and the pickups are mounted in a pickguard so you loose some of the tone - plastic will do that). The SG has a bit of a better neck (set-neck not bolted on), a smoother feel, and a little more sustain than a Strat (but I would get rid of the top-hat knobs and put on Gibson's speed knobs, overall they just seem to work better).

Remember, you can always do what Jimmy Page did and coil tap those humbuckers if you want a single-coil sound (PRS does this on most of their guitars). Jimmy Page was known to be a chameleon since he could make one guitar sound like another (the coil-tapping and phase switching helped). Yeah, Page used a Telecaster to record "Stairway to Heaven" (and most of their early stuff), but once he got the Les Paul he coil-tapped it so he could also get those Fender sounds.

Anyhow, between the Strat and the SG I'd say to go with the SG - just make sure you really look the guitar over well, and play every single one you're thinking about buying (don't mail order it) - Gibson's craftsmanship has been very "hit or miss" over the past 10 years, and you never know what kind of shit guitar slipped through their quality control (many many more than you think). Remember, you're paying a bit more for the Gibson name (but then again, Gibson's tend to hold their value a little better than Fender's, and Gibson's resale value is better). Cheers . . .

- Ian C.T. vom Saal

seanw1010

ianvomsaal wrote:

Okay, I own a few of each guitar you've been talking about (I have a real 61-SG, RI-61-SG's, SG-Custom's, US-Strat's & US-Tele's {Deluxe, Plus, CustomShop, ect}, plus many, many more kinds of guitars). Honestly, I use everything depending on what kind of sound and feel I'm looking for. Anyhow, here's my 2-cents . . .

Between the two, overall I'd say to go with the 61-SG or SG-Custom (get an SG with a small pickguard or NO pickguard). DON'T get the SG-Special or SG-Standard - they're cheap imitations of the real thing, and don't sound as good (and the pickups are mounted in a pickguard so you loose some of the tone - plastic will do that). The SG has a bit of a better neck (set-neck not bolted on), a smoother feel, and a little more sustain than a Strat (but I would get rid of the top-hat knobs and put on Gibson's speed knobs, overall they just seem to work better).

Remember, you can always do what Jimmy Page did and put a coil tap on those humbuckers if you want a single-coil sound (PRS also does this). Page was known to be a chameleon since he could make one guitar sound like another (the coil-tapping and phase switching helped). Yeah, Page used a Telecaster to record "Stairway to Heaven" (and most of their early stuff), but once he got the Les Paul he coil-tapped it so he could also get those Fender sounds.

Anyhow, between the Strat and the SG I'd say to go with the SG - just make sure you really look the guitar over well, and play every single one you're thinking about buying (don't mail order it) - Gibson's craftsmanship has been very "hit or miss" over the past 10 years, and you never know what kind of shit guitar slipped through their quality control (many many more than you think). Remember, you're paying a bit more for the Gibson name (but then again, Gibson's tend to hold their value a little better than Fender's, and Gibson's resale value is better). Cheers . . .

- Ian C.T. vom Saal

thanks!