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man pearl jam know how to use use Bb chord well

reaching handsreaching hands Posts: 370
edited June 2006 in Musicians and Gearheads
when they write a tune with Bb in it, my juices flow.....sad, come back...etc etc
leeds 26/08/06....electric
paris 11/09/06.....crushed...but estatic
wembley 18/06/07.....oh yes

'listen...you can hear the sustain...you just hold that note and you can go get a bite whilst its still going'

the legend , nigel tufnell
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    good.... i'm not the only one!
  • reaching handsreaching hands Posts: 370
    group hug for all the Bb lovers
    leeds 26/08/06....electric
    paris 11/09/06.....crushed...but estatic
    wembley 18/06/07.....oh yes

    'listen...you can hear the sustain...you just hold that note and you can go get a bite whilst its still going'

    the legend , nigel tufnell
  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    HAIL HAIL.

    oi.
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  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Excuse my ignorance guys but what is the Bb chord??

    :o:o:o
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  • nick1977nick1977 Posts: 327
    Bb is my favorite key...something about it just sounds fantastic.
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    I prefer the A#

    sorry, someone had to.
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  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    I prefer the A#

    sorry, someone had to.
    hahaha..

    so nerdy.

    well done :)


    Bb... Bflat.. a half step down from B (or up from A as our friend pointed out ;) )

    in tab it's written as: - 1 3 3 (e a d g)
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  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    hahaha..

    so nerdy.

    well done :)


    Bb... Bflat.. a half step down from B (or up from A as our friend pointed out ;) )

    in tab it's written as: - 1 3 3 (e a d g)

    So it's a power chord??
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    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

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  • J.D.J.D. Posts: 73
    B flat is many things.

    A note, a key, a barre chord, a chord, power chord sure.

    I always liked the tension the Bb gives off in Faithfull and Hail, Hail.
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    J.D. wrote:
    B flat is many things.

    A note, a key, a barre chord, a chord, power chord sure.

    I always liked the tension the Bb gives off in Faithfull and Hail, Hail.

    Thanks!! :)

    I can play, I'm still just getting familiar with the theory :)
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • yenraekyenraek Posts: 21
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    So it's a power chord??

    or a tonic triad if u wanna get trixy
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  • CanvasAdamCanvasAdam Posts: 134
    yenraek wrote:
    or a tonic triad if u wanna get trixy

    woo baby here is an opportunity for me to use those 6 years i spent obtaining multiple degrees in music lol.

    a power chord is not a tonic triad. a power chord is made up of 2 roots and a 5th, omitting the 3rd which gives the chord neither a major or minor quality. therefore a power chord is made up of 2 roots and a 5th. the spelling of a Bb power chord would be Bb F Bb. a triad must have 3 different notes, those being the root, 3rd, and 5th. if you want a a Bb Major you need to add in the 3rd which would be D and the spelling of the chord would be Bb D F. if you want Bb minor the 3rd would be Db making the chord spelling Bb Db F. the only difference in a major and minor chord such as A major to A minor is the lowering of the 3rd a half step.

    and a triad(or any other chord) can only be considered "tonic" if the chord is the ONE(I) chord in the key. so take a song like nothing as it seems where the chord progression is B(I) - Bb minor(vii). Bb in this case is actually considered a#(although a# is enharmonic to Bb). but at any rate, the ONE(I) chord here is the B minor and therefore that is the tonic chord and no other chord in the song will be a tonic chord until there is a point of modulation and we have a new key.

    ok glad a BA in music business & technolgy and an AS is music general paid off for somthing lol...

    by the way i wasn't taking a shot at anyone i was just having fun =)
    1998... 9/3
    2000... 8/7, 8/15, 11/5, 11/6
    2001... 10/20, 10/21, 10/22
    2002... 12/8, 12/9
    2003... 4/9, 4/18, 4/19, 7/8, 7/9
    2004... 10/6, 10/8
    2006... 5/16, 5/17, 5/30
    2008... EV Solo 4/12, 4/13, 4/16
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  • jodijodi Posts: 183
    i always like the sadness in minor and b cords..
    There's a light,... when my baby's in my arms...
    And I know she's reached my heart,... in thin air
  • *Boy*Boy Posts: 112
    CanvasAdam wrote:
    woo baby here is an opportunity for me to use those 6 years i spent obtaining multiple degrees in music lol.

    a power chord is not a tonic triad. a power chord is made up of 2 roots and a 5th, omitting the 3rd which gives the chord neither a major or minor quality. therefore a power chord is made up of 2 roots and a 5th. the spelling of a Bb power chord would be Bb F Bb. a triad must have 3 different notes, those being the root, 3rd, and 5th. if you want a a Bb Major you need to add in the 3rd which would be D and the spelling of the chord would be Bb D F. if you want Bb minor the 3rd would be Db making the chord spelling Bb Db F. the only difference in a major and minor chord such as A major to A minor is the lowering of the 3rd a half step.

    and a triad(or any other chord) can only be considered "tonic" if the chord is the ONE(I) chord in the key. so take a song like nothing as it seems where the chord progression is B(I) - Bb minor(vii). Bb in this case is actually considered a#(although a# is enharmonic to Bb). but at any rate, the ONE(I) chord here is the B minor and therefore that is the tonic chord and no other chord in the song will be a tonic chord until there is a point of modulation and we have a new key.

    ok glad a BA in music business & technolgy and an AS is music general paid off for somthing lol...

    by the way i wasn't taking a shot at anyone i was just having fun =)


    whatever you just said made me jealous, damn man thats quite impressive
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  • reaching handsreaching hands Posts: 370
    i spent two years getting a diploma in popular music and i never took all that in! lol
    leeds 26/08/06....electric
    paris 11/09/06.....crushed...but estatic
    wembley 18/06/07.....oh yes

    'listen...you can hear the sustain...you just hold that note and you can go get a bite whilst its still going'

    the legend , nigel tufnell
  • CanvasAdamCanvasAdam Posts: 134
    i'm a music theory machine lol. 6 years studying classical music, playing 1st chair in the UAB Classical Guitar Ensemble, and making appearances with the Alabama Symphony Orchestra, and 6 years studying music theory will do it to ya =P
    1998... 9/3
    2000... 8/7, 8/15, 11/5, 11/6
    2001... 10/20, 10/21, 10/22
    2002... 12/8, 12/9
    2003... 4/9, 4/18, 4/19, 7/8, 7/9
    2004... 10/6, 10/8
    2006... 5/16, 5/17, 5/30
    2008... EV Solo 4/12, 4/13, 4/16
    2008... PJ 6/14, 7/12
    2008... Stone Solo 10/11
  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    i was reading the application for Depaul school of music (Chicago),.. unless you're playing Jazz it seems they want you to do selections like Bach on guitar..

    who do they think they are?

    (luckily, if i get to audition or can afford it i'd be a Jazz player.. :p )



    anyways, very thourough :cool:

    Red Mosquito also uses a Bb (if we're just naming songs :D )
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  • CanvasAdamCanvasAdam Posts: 134
    lol bach is the standard. the reason why is because bach is the daddy of music theory. he didn't know that he was and didn't even try to be. but all of classical music theory is derived from all of bach's work. i have over a 4 hour repoitoire of bach music for classical guitar that i perform often.
    1998... 9/3
    2000... 8/7, 8/15, 11/5, 11/6
    2001... 10/20, 10/21, 10/22
    2002... 12/8, 12/9
    2003... 4/9, 4/18, 4/19, 7/8, 7/9
    2004... 10/6, 10/8
    2006... 5/16, 5/17, 5/30
    2008... EV Solo 4/12, 4/13, 4/16
    2008... PJ 6/14, 7/12
    2008... Stone Solo 10/11
  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    Coltrane would kick Bach's ass. ;)
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  • casper leblanccasper leblanc Posts: 1,246
    I 'wrote' three new 'songs' and two include the infamous Bb. It does have something.
  • reaching handsreaching hands Posts: 370
    it does, its dramtic but when you flatten and play an F on ya e string it gives it the biggest kick up the arse imaginable. when i was in a band and when ha d a song that opened with the Bb chord and man it was like a power bolt, still gives me goosebumps
    leeds 26/08/06....electric
    paris 11/09/06.....crushed...but estatic
    wembley 18/06/07.....oh yes

    'listen...you can hear the sustain...you just hold that note and you can go get a bite whilst its still going'

    the legend , nigel tufnell
  • evenflowevenflow Posts: 401
    Immortality is another great one.

    And for the Bm fans, there's that Crazy Mary Song.
    It's all about the music...

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  • reaching handsreaching hands Posts: 370
    evenflow wrote:
    Immortality is another great one.

    And for the Bm fans, there's that Crazy Mary Song.

    immortality?, that doesn't have Bb in it?does it?, if so all these years ive been playin it wrong!lol

    crazy mary, isn't that am?, maybe we are workin in different keys here...lol
    leeds 26/08/06....electric
    paris 11/09/06.....crushed...but estatic
    wembley 18/06/07.....oh yes

    'listen...you can hear the sustain...you just hold that note and you can go get a bite whilst its still going'

    the legend , nigel tufnell
  • CanvasAdamCanvasAdam Posts: 134
    reaching hands wrote:
    immortality?, that doesn't have Bb in it?does it?, if so all these years ive been playin it wrong!lol

    crazy mary, isn't that am?, maybe we are workin in different keys here...lol

    immortality pretty much only uses em, d7, C7, and A

    crazy mary, the original by victoria williams is in bm and pearl jam originally played it live in bm. they have now transposed it to am though and i believe the reason why is because the key signature for am is ABCDEFGA(no sharps and no flats, which equals all white keys on a piano, which equals a very easy way for boom to rockout a solo.) anyway that is my conspiracy theory on the am transposition for crazy mary live since 2003 lol.
    1998... 9/3
    2000... 8/7, 8/15, 11/5, 11/6
    2001... 10/20, 10/21, 10/22
    2002... 12/8, 12/9
    2003... 4/9, 4/18, 4/19, 7/8, 7/9
    2004... 10/6, 10/8
    2006... 5/16, 5/17, 5/30
    2008... EV Solo 4/12, 4/13, 4/16
    2008... PJ 6/14, 7/12
    2008... Stone Solo 10/11
  • reaching handsreaching hands Posts: 370
    CanvasAdam wrote:
    immortality pretty much only uses em, d7, C7, and A

    crazy mary, the original by victoria williams is in bm and pearl jam originally played it live in bm. they have now transposed it to am though and i believe the reason why is because the key signature for am is ABCDEFGA(no sharps and no flats, which equals all white keys on a piano, which equals a very easy way for boom to rockout a solo.) anyway that is my conspiracy theory on the am transposition for crazy mary live since 2003 lol.

    thanks for the explanation....lol
    leeds 26/08/06....electric
    paris 11/09/06.....crushed...but estatic
    wembley 18/06/07.....oh yes

    'listen...you can hear the sustain...you just hold that note and you can go get a bite whilst its still going'

    the legend , nigel tufnell
  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    reaching hands wrote:
    immortality?, that doesn't have Bb in it?does it?, if so all these years ive been playin it wrong!lol

    no it doesn't.

    he must be confuseddddd
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • evenflowevenflow Posts: 401
    I was. Very Confused. I meant Nothing Man, not Immortality. Serious brain fart.

    F-Dm-C-Dm-Bb

    Sorry for the screw up.

    And yeah, I didn't even realize that they changed up Crazy Mary to Am. It's been years since I've played it along with the CD. I messed this thread all up. Thats what I get for posting so early in the morning.
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  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    Nirvana played it first!
  • CanvasAdamCanvasAdam Posts: 134
    there ya go, nothingman indeed uses it =)
    1998... 9/3
    2000... 8/7, 8/15, 11/5, 11/6
    2001... 10/20, 10/21, 10/22
    2002... 12/8, 12/9
    2003... 4/9, 4/18, 4/19, 7/8, 7/9
    2004... 10/6, 10/8
    2006... 5/16, 5/17, 5/30
    2008... EV Solo 4/12, 4/13, 4/16
    2008... PJ 6/14, 7/12
    2008... Stone Solo 10/11
  • MichaelMcKevinMichaelMcKevin Posts: 1,161
    The Bb chord gave us that oh-so-wonderful chorus of Wash
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