Major pedal help
DiRtyFranK38
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Hey guys, sorry i know their has been lots of threads about this kinda stuff, but i had to do this. to sum it up fast, this week i am finally getting myself a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube amp. [thank god] the electric guitar that i use is cuincidentally a Michael Kelly Patriot Hot Rod Deluxe. Now, when i go to get the new amp, i plan on buying some pedals, and trading in a bunch of old shit for new pedals. i will be trading in my Roland Cube 30 amp, my Boss GT-3 effects processer, and a Boss Dual Overdrive Pedal. The GT-3 has every kind of effect but we all know those big processers with all the sounds in them are never great quality, and its like giving birth to get the right sound. Honestly, I hate it. So now, once i get my nice new amp and trade some stuff in, along with some cash i've worked up i would like to buy/trade a pedal for most of the effects i loved. My birthday is friday, so i may somehow between everyone i know, along with my own cash/trade ins, be able to pull off getting all the pedals i want if they are not too pricey. But if not, eventually. so PLEASE read below and help, because researching myself, they are just so many out there and its so hard to choose..i want to hear from players themselves..Lastly, after i trade everything in..the only pedal that i will be keeping is my Ibanez Ts-9 Turbo Tube Screamer. Keep in mind that is already in my arsenal.
Suggestions for the best FUZZ/OCTAVE type pedal:
Suggestions for the best DELAY pedal:
Suggestions for the best TREMELO/VIBE/ROTO whatever type pedal:
Suggestions for the best PHASER/SHIFTER pedal:
Sugestions for the best WAH pedal:
Suggestions for the best FLANGER pedal:
Suggestions for the best CHORUS/ECHO pedal:
*IF NECASSARY suggestions for some good quality metal pedal, for like a soundgarden sound..because i don't know if the tube screamer can always pull that off*
the new amp has reverb built into it with a footswitch i believe so that should be no problem, and as i said i already have the Ts-9 for my overdreive/distortion pedal...and yea thats pretty much it...i'd reeeeaally appreciate if you'd help...many people also say compressors are good, but i dont understand..they really dont make a difference right?
Suggestions for the best FUZZ/OCTAVE type pedal:
Suggestions for the best DELAY pedal:
Suggestions for the best TREMELO/VIBE/ROTO whatever type pedal:
Suggestions for the best PHASER/SHIFTER pedal:
Sugestions for the best WAH pedal:
Suggestions for the best FLANGER pedal:
Suggestions for the best CHORUS/ECHO pedal:
*IF NECASSARY suggestions for some good quality metal pedal, for like a soundgarden sound..because i don't know if the tube screamer can always pull that off*
the new amp has reverb built into it with a footswitch i believe so that should be no problem, and as i said i already have the Ts-9 for my overdreive/distortion pedal...and yea thats pretty much it...i'd reeeeaally appreciate if you'd help...many people also say compressors are good, but i dont understand..they really dont make a difference right?
2006: Hartford
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
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Fuzz/OD: Ibanez TS-9 or Boss BD-2 (think John Mayer, more bluesy OD) Warren Haynes actually uses a Boss MT-2 Metal Zone if you like his sound. Fulltone OCD is great too, especially for a classic rock type sound.
Delay: Boss DD-6 is very popular. Upgraded version of popular DD-3 but with more options
Tremelo/Vibe: H&K Rotosphere if you want to spend a lot. Dunlop Rotovibe if not
Phase Shifter: MXR Phase 90
Wah: Dunlop Crybaby is most popular. The 535q version is probably best of the Crybaby's because it's adjustable, but I like the Budda Budwah because it rules out the high end quacky sound.
I don't have much for chorus and flanger really. Again, none of this is really from my own experience... just what I've read and heard.
It is just one thing to consider, but a big thing for me, lets you just jump on teh wah for a few notes then bacl to your normal tone.
Fuzz wise, I'm probbaly gonna go for teh Big Muff Pi soon, just need to finfish paying off teh Rotosphere. JAck white, Jimi Hendrix, Frusciante, good enough for me !!
Suggestions for the best DELAY pedal:Line 6 DL-4 or the Digitech X-series Digital Delay
Suggestions for the best TREMELO/VIBE/ROTO whatever type pedal:Rotovibe
Suggestions for the best PHASER/SHIFTER pedal: Digitech X-series Phaser, MXR Phase 90
Sugestions for the best WAH pedal: Crybaby 535Q
Suggestions for the best FLANGER pedal: Ibanez FL-9 Analog Flange
Suggestions for the best CHORUS/ECHO pedal: DOD FX-64 Stereo CHorus
JEFF HARDY AND JEFF AMENT USED TO LOOK THE SAME
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thanks for the suggestions.. i've actually been narrowing down and i've had in my head for a while the boss dl-6 for delay and the mxr phase 90 for phaser. for the fuzz though, i'm surprised no one recommended the two i have been trying to mainly decide between. the new boss fuzz fz -5 and the mxr blue box.
thanks for the input. but as i said, i have an ibanez ts-9. i've also played a boss metal zone, and it litterally sounds like two flys in a toaster.. it eats all your tone and sounds like pure shit. for a "metal" pedal i've been considering the Line 6 Uber Metal. rotosphere is too expensive at this stage, but i shall check out the dunlop rotovibe!
thats cool about the morely wah. i'll check it out..even though it's looking like i'm gonna get a crybaby. big muff i have been checking out, but i'm leaning towards mxr blue box or new boss fz -5 fuzz for that kind of thing..
MORE SUGGESTIONS PLEASE! highly appreciated..share what you've used, liked, hated, gimme the scoop
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
Suggestions for the best DELAY pedal:boss dd3 or dd-6. cant go wrong with either. i personally own the dd3, which is cheaper. you cant go wrong with either of them, but for the price, id say dd3
Suggestions for the best TREMELO/VIBE/ROTO whatever type pedal:lovepedal magicvibe(may have messed nameup). best vibe pedal out there, and it is actually fairly cheap for vibe. i strongly suggest this
Suggestions for the best PHASER/SHIFTER pedal:cant go wrong with a good phase 90. i love these, plus, mike uses it!
Sugestions for the best WAH pedal:dunlop 535q wah. these are semi pricy for a wah, but they are WORTH IT.it is the most versitle wah i have ever played. i would be lost without it on my board.(plus mike uses it
Suggestions for the best FLANGER pedal:i use a phase 90 to cover most of my flange sounds....
Suggestions for the best CHORUS/ECHO pedal:visual sound H20. best chorus and echo combo out there. i rescently bought one from a forum member(pj&t i think), and i love it, it is one of my favorite pedals.
my .02$
If it's older stuff that's not all that sought after, they won't give you much (maybe $5 - If they want to buy it at all).
It's a lot of paperwork per piece that the employees usually hate doing because it takes them off the sales floor to do the paperwork.
They'd usually rather buy 1 expensive item than 20 inexpensive items because of all the paperwork).
If it's a newer item that's still being made (and it's in good shape), they usually sell it for half of the normal selling price.
Which means that they'll give you maybe half of that price.
Example (brand new sells for $99, they'll sell it used for $50, you'll get maybe $25, but probably more likely $20).
Okay, Bang for Buck . . .
DELAY/ECHO
(Line6 DL4) http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-DL4-Delay-Modeler-Pedal?sku=150380
TREMOLO/VIBE/ROTO/PHASER/SHIFTER/CHORUS/FLANGER
(Line6 MM4) this unit has all those effects 1-pedal http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-MM4-Modulation-Modeler-Pedal?sku=150381
I'm gonna eventually go this route (Mike Mccready also uses both MM-4 and a DL-4)
WAH
Try them, see what sounds best to you: VOX, 535Q, BUDWAH, FULLTONE WAH (based on the Vox Clyde McCoy).
FUZZ
Dunlop Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face, Robert Keeley Fuzz Head, Boss FZ-5
OCTAVE
[EBS OctaBass Triple Mode Octave Divider Pedal
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/EBS-OctaBass-Triple-Mode-Octave-Divider-Pedal?sku=151465
One of the best on the market
CHEERS . . .
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The DD-6, on the other hand, has 5 seconds that you can step on the pedal and basically record what you're playing, then when you let go it'll play it back infinitely. That 5 seconds is really useful for me, since I play by myself a lot. Not to mention, you can overdub as many times as you like. Sometimes I like to play a phrase, then play the phrase again but change the ending note, so it sounds pretty cool in the end. Plus the delays are all fantastic, the pedal isn't a tone sucker, just make sure you use a power supply, batteries are eaten up like candy.
If you're absolutely a delay freak and would really like more versatility, the DD-20 does all that just a little bit better, and you can record for more time, save/store up to 4 "phrases" and come back to them later. Just food for thought, assuming you like delay like I do.
I've already written an essay here, but I'll just quickly throw in my suggestions for other stuff.
The overdrive on your amp is probably strong enough for most applications, but if you're looking for a distortion outright, I'd stay away from the DS-1 unless you're gonna get it upgraded/modded somehow. I have mine and it's ok I guess, but somehow it doesn't sound as natural as I'd like it to, and can lack "OOMPH" if you wanna call it that, that little push over the top, even with the distortion cranked.
Chorus/Flange, I can't help you with, I'm currently deciding on that myself.
I've got a phase 90, and I like it. Simple, it does it's job, and it does it well. It phases your signal. Worth the $50 I got it for, used.
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7/10/06 LA 2
10/21/06 Bridge 1
EXTREMELY HELPFUL!! thanks!! you named many that i have been strongly considering, so that makes my life a whole lot easier. i'll check out that chorus and magicvibe though too!..i was recently looking at a voodoo lab microvibe and i heard it was fantastic too.
thanks for the great input as well! i actually spoke with a store owner at the shop and told him what i'm considering to trade, and he said pending on what pedal, he can maybe trade 4 or 3 used pedals or 2 new ones for what i'm willing to trade in. probobly around there.. plus i got about 2 pedals worth of cash. and it's my birthday.
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
Oh, btw the DL4 also has a "sound on sound" mode just like the DD20. On the DL4 the feature is the looping function.
Apart from that the only other thing I'd add or comment on about Ian's list would be to mention the Voodlab Wahzoo as another Wah you should try. It's also based on the Clyde McCoy Vox, and it would give you a step wah to throw into your arsenal as well... though to be fair it's about $120 more than a vox or crybaby. It's roughly the same price as the Fulltone though.
Good luck!
thanks so much. i made my delay decision!!
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
thanks man..that line 6 stuff is just a bit pricey though, so i'm sticking with the individuals
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
glad to help
oh, and definately do yourself a favor and check out the visual sound H20 chorus...it is amazing! i usually am very picky with my chorus pedals, but i loved this the day i recieved it. you can get great gilmour to nirvana tones from it(the reason i liked it so much was because how close i could get to gilmours chorus tone). i wholly reccommend this chorus(the echo on it is pretty good too
but honestly, try getting everything individually that this single pedal does for under $250 - I don't think it's possible.
3-single-pedals alone cost more than the MM-4.
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effect unit you've ever wished you had 16 in all. They include Uni-Vibe, Phase 90, Leslie, CE-1 Chorus Ensemble,
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storing your programmed versions, true bypass switching, an expression-pedal input, and stereo inputs and
outputs. Controls include Effect Selector, Speed, Depth, Tweak, Tweez, and Mix.
Line 6 MM-4 Modulation Modeler Pedal Features:
16 quality modulation effects Includes:
Uni-Vibe, Phase 90, Leslie, CE-1 Chorus Ensemble, MXR Flanger, Dimension D, Tri Stereo Chorus, and many more.
16 factory presets, plus 4 user presets
True bypass switching
Expression-pedal input
Stereo inputs and outputs
Controls include Effect Selector, Speed, Depth, Tweak, Tweez, and Mix
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JEFF HARDY AND JEFF AMENT USED TO LOOK THE SAME
"Pearl Jam always eases my mind and fires me up at the same time.”-Jeff Hardy
thanks man. can you send me a site that has this magicvibe? musiciansfriend doesn't have it. :0
2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
2011: Ed Solo Hartford
2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
http://www.lovepedal.com/ -for the whole site(he makes other great pedals too, check some of them outtoo)
http://www.lovepedal.com/fab50.htm - for the vibe. this pedal is very simple, but dont underestimate it. it is amazing
i made this video today to show you the 535q wah. its really short and kinda crappy, but it shows what the wah does.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2026824438
ps, this is not what i usually play, i was just doing some shredding style stuff cause that shows off the wah the best.