Played a Martin HD-28V...

RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
edited October 2007 in Musicians and Gearheads
...and fell in love with it!

What an incredible guitar. I played it and it just felt perfect. I've played D-28's and plain HD-28's and the HD-28V felt a lot better. Is this because there's that much difference in the guitars or is it that the setup on the one I tried just happened to be well suited to me by chance?
Cheers!
Rhyno

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  • ianvomsaalianvomsaal Posts: 1,224
    The HD28V is a copy of their vintage spec pre-war features.
    I think the V's neck feels a little different (I know the bracing has been moved forward to pre-war spec).
    Martins have always seem to sound a bit too dark and bottom heavy (they just don't seem to cut through).
    IMO Taylor is still better all around playing/sounding guitar.
    Taylor seems to be a more consistent guitar (which is why so many Pro's have switched from Martin to Taylor).
    Do this . . . play an 8-series Dreadnought Taylor, and then the HD28V (both are similar in size and shape).
    I guarantee you'll hear/feel the difference - and the cost is relatively the same.
    There are Martin People and Taylor people - each seem prefer their respective guitar.
    But in the end the majority seem to switch to Taylor after playing and performing with both.
    Cheers . . .

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  • RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
    I'll give a Taylor a try as well. Thanks
    Cheers!
    Rhyno

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  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    Rhyno wrote:
    ...and fell in love with it!

    What an incredible guitar. I played it and it just felt perfect. I've played D-28's and plain HD-28's and the HD-28V felt a lot better. Is this because there's that much difference in the guitars or is it that the setup on the one I tried just happened to be well suited to me by chance?

    I used to own a HD-28V, but traded it in to get a Taylor 814ce. It all depends on what you think you are going to be doing with the guitar.

    The Martin sounds better than the Taylor when they are both played unplugged. It's got a rich tone and a booming sound.

    The Martin however can not be plugged into an amp, unless you buy one of those pickups that you stick in the soundhole... and those tend to sound kind of shitty. The Taylor has an amazing pickup system built in, and sounds unreal when amplified!

    The only thing I didn't like about the Martin was the v-shaped neck. My hands eventually got used to it, but it was still quite annoying to me. The Taylor is one of the easiest guitars to play, and every strings rings out in a very balanced way.

    Therefore, between the two that I mentioned, the Martin would suit you if you just are going to play unplugged at home, or record in the studio with a good set of mics on it. It comes off really warm when miked properly! Whereas the Taylor would be a better choice if you are going to be playing live... but it also sounds good in the studio because it is so versatile. You can mic it, run it thru an amp and mic that, or run it directly into the soundboard. You can also do all three and then take a mix of the combination which I've done before and creates a cool sound.

    Both great guitars, just make sure to play it before you buy it because no two guitars sound the same.. and some sound better than others!
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  • RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
    Thanks. I'm a hobbyist getting a late start in this game. :-) So, most of my playing will be at home for my own enjoyment. As mentioned, I actually loved the feel of the Martin HD-28V, but still want to try a few Taylors before I drop the $.

    Thanks for the input!
    Cheers!
    Rhyno

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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,291
    Rhyno wrote:
    Thanks. I'm a hobbyist getting a late start in this game. :-) So, most of my playing will be at home for my own enjoyment. As mentioned, I actually loved the feel of the Martin HD-28V, but still want to try a few Taylors before I drop the $.

    Thanks for the input!

    I prefer Taylors over Martins (comparable guitars). Both make incredible guitars and you'd be silly to simply single out a brand but from what I've found is the 7 and 8 series Taylors are simply amazing.
  • RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
    So, I went in to my local guitar shop and played a few Taylor's. Then, went and played a few Martin's. This time I did like the Taylor's I played, but I also ended up liking the D-35. Man, I don't get how anyone can pick just one acoustic! :-)
    Cheers!
    Rhyno

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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    Is the HD-28V the same as the HD-28VS? I played a VS at the Martin factory and it was the best sounding guitar I've ever played. Amazing. The one that I played had a classical-style headstock, not a traditional one.
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  • RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
    Yeah, I am not sure, but I believe the VS has a few variations from the V version.
    Cheers!
    Rhyno

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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,291
    Rhyno wrote:
    So, I went in to my local guitar shop and played a few Taylor's. Then, went and played a few Martin's. This time I did like the Taylor's I played, but I also ended up liking the D-35. Man, I don't get how anyone can pick just one acoustic! :-)

    Yeah, it's tough!

    When you have two companies who make such amazing guitars it's hard to pick "the one".
  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    DOSW wrote:
    Is the HD-28V the same as the HD-28VS? I played a VS at the Martin factory and it was the best sounding guitar I've ever played. Amazing. The one that I played had a classical-style headstock, not a traditional one.

    The main difference is that the body of the guitar is bigger and shaped a little different on the VS. It extends out to the 12th fret, whereas the 28V goes up to 14 before the body starts. There are some other minor differences as well...
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  • RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
    mca47 wrote:
    Yeah, it's tough!

    When you have two companies who make such amazing guitars it's hard to pick "the one".

    Yeah, one day I like one. The next, I like the other. What's a guy to do...
    Cheers!
    Rhyno

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  • RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
    Trailer wrote:
    The main difference is that the body of the guitar is bigger and shaped a little different on the VS. It extends out to the 12th fret, whereas the 28V goes up to 14 before the body starts. There are some other minor differences as well...

    Thanks for the insight. What does this do to the sound? Deeper, warmer?
    Cheers!
    Rhyno

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  • ianvomsaalianvomsaal Posts: 1,224
    Rhyno wrote:
    Thanks for the insight. What does this do to the sound? Deeper, warmer?
    . . . makes you want to get a Taylor ;)

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  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    I also played an HD-28V a coupld of months ago and I loved it too!
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    i've got 2 taylors - a 810wmb and a 412 ce.

    i have one martin - a hd28vr

    i've got my 810 for sell after 10 years.

    for me, just playing around the house, the martin is the way to go.

    i love taylors, but the martin is the sound i hear in my head
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  • RhynoRhyno Posts: 304
    810wmb wrote:
    ...but the martin is the sound i hear in my head

    This is how I feel too. However, after listening to a few Taylor's, I think they have a nice sound as well. And they're a bit prettier (if that's what you're into). I've also heard that Taylor's are built better than Martin's. Is this true nowaday's?

    I haven't had a chance to play a Taylor 810. So, I am going to go check it out at a local shop today. Then, play the HD-28V again. I'd save some cash by going the Taylor route too, but I want to be sure I get a guitar that I'll love and have for years.
    Cheers!
    Rhyno

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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    Rhyno wrote:
    This is how I feel too. However, after listening to a few Taylor's, I think they have a nice sound as well. And they're a bit prettier (if that's what you're into). I've also heard that Taylor's are built better than Martin's. Is this true nowaday's?

    at one time it may have been true...i don't think so anymore

    taylors may have been more consistent at one point. but bob taylor actually helped martin set up their CNC machines when they switched.

    play as many of the same models as you can...two of the same guitars may sound way different.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,291
    810wmb wrote:
    at one time it may have been true...i don't think so anymore

    taylors may have been more consistent at one point. but bob taylor actually helped martin set up their CNC machines when they switched.

    play as many of the same models as you can...two of the same guitars may sound way different.

    You're sort of right. I went to my local fancy-lad shop on Tuesday (I live in Scottsdale ("Beverly Hill far East")) and I sat and played guitars for hours. I played Martins and Taylors (and some Gibsons) from the many years and I have to say the difference from year to year going down the "quality" scale is incredible. From what I saw is that "sub-great" (cause let's be honest neither one makes a bad guitar) guitars def. go to Martin and Co. Mid range, no question Taylor. 7 and 800 series is IMO leaps and bounds better. High end gets dicey. I cannot say! I have high end Martins that I love and I have high end Taylors I love...both bringing two different things to the table.
    Both made my spine melt. My god they are awesome!!! :)
  • ianvomsaalianvomsaal Posts: 1,224
    I love my 814-CE Taylor, I haven't played a better guitar - but I got mine back in '99.
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