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Dave A's snare drum

coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
edited October 2007 in Musicians and Gearheads
is this correct ?

http://www.lukin.com/Information/dhabbruzzese.html

Dave a is using a 8x12 Brady Snare as his primary snare ? or was it a typo ? should it be 8x13" Brady Snare ?

clarifications would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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  • dangerboydangerboy Posts: 1,569
    according to his former drum tech:

    I"m betting on 12...i do have this written down somewhere but it will be well into next week before i can confrim......he did break the brady shell by tossing it up in the air after a show....i do recall that...

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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    thank you dangerboy! i hope i get more answers.
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    so what has jimmy been up to lately?

    In fact, I do remember one of Dave A's snare's being sold on ebay. It had the stickman on it too. Can't remember how long ago (a year or two?)
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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    so what has jimmy been up to lately?

    In fact, I do remember one of Dave A's snare's being sold on ebay. It had the stickman on it too. Can't remember how long ago (a year or two?)

    who's jimmy ? anyone else can confirm ? and what's the wood used on DAve A's Brady 12x7 snare by the way ? was it a steel snare or maple or birch ?
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    coffee_party wrote:
    who's jimmy ? anyone else can confirm ? and what's the wood used on DAve A's Brady 12x7 snare by the way ? was it a steel snare or maple or birch ?

    jimmy was Dave's drum tech and even played on one of the PJ albums.
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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    chopitdown wrote:
    jimmy was Dave's drum tech and even played on one of the PJ albums.


    woah thats a cool fact, what songs specifically jimmy played ?
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    coffee_party wrote:
    woah thats a cool fact, what songs specifically jimmy played ?

    as far as i know it was only one, and it was a devilish good tune.
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  • dangerboydangerboy Posts: 1,569
    http://www.twofeetthick.com/tft/readArticle.action?id=95


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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    ok now how about his snare ? Was it really a 12X8 as his primary snare?
  • dangerboydangerboy Posts: 1,569
    sorry, dude...he said it would be next week somtime before he could get out his notes. i'll ask him the stuff about birch or metal too, but it's gonna be a few days...


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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    based on how it sounds, i think its metal, i could be totally wrong though. if he broke it by throwing it then its probably wood.
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  • hard_sunhard_sun Posts: 381
    ...hello people...
    please, can anyone help...i play drums,but i am the beginner...and i don't have drums at home, but i'm thinking of buying them...so can you tell me what is the best combination of drums for me as a beginner?

    ...thank you...
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    hard_sun wrote:
    ...hello people...
    please, can anyone help...i play drums,but i am the beginner...and i don't have drums at home, but i'm thinking of buying them...so can you tell me what is the best combination of drums for me as a beginner?

    ...thank you...


    Hey man!

    I've been playing for about 22 years or so.

    What I'd recommend is getting a used set pretty cheap. The reason why? You'll gain an appreciation for what to upgrade and why.

    If you start off with a great set, the sound may be lost on a beginner.

    I started off on a relatively cheap CB persussion set with B8 Sabian cymbals when I was 9. I got a little better and bought better equipment a little at a time. Now, I'm up to pretty good gear.

    So my recommendation - having gone thru it myself, is to get the cheapest set possible.


    ....just like if you start off life driving a Ferrari, you'll probably not understand why a ferrari is superior to a Honda. Start off with a Honda.

    :)

    Good luck!!
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  • hard_sunhard_sun Posts: 381
    thank you so much!

    but, my drum teacher proposed me to buy SONOR FORCE 507 drum set, and the best ZILDJIAN cymbals that i can get-because ''they are very important during the drumming''- he said...

    so, what is your expertly opinion about that?
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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    sonor drums are good, i like their hardwares very durable, get a Sabian B8 set for starters. they sound good.

    anyway back to Dave A's snare... anyone ?
  • InhumanInhuman Posts: 17
    According to the Brady Drums website...

    "DAVE ABBRUZZESE
    Client since 1991

    Equipment:
    12” x 7” Jarrah Block Snare
    12” x 7” Sheoak Block Snare
    14” x 8” Jarrah Ply/White Gimlet Basketweave Snare

    Jarrah Ply Drumkit/Silver Gimlet Gloss: 8” x 8”, 10” x 9”, 12” x 10”, 14” x 12”, 20” x 18 Bass Drum."

    Now, this is probably a more current list of gear, and not the gear he was using during his time with Pearl Jam, since that was close to 15 years ago... tastes change, etc. However, I think it's fairly safe to say that he would've used something very similar to either the 12x7 Jarrah, or the 12x7 Sheoak drums listed above. Currently they do NOT make a 12x8, though they may have in the past.

    For the debate going on as to what material the drums were, Jarrah and Sheoak are both types of wood. Brady does NOT do the ordinary maple and birch drums you see from other companies, but rather they specialize in more unique (and expensive!) materials.

    However, in earlier live videos, I've seen Dave using a fairly shallow Pearl Free Floater, most likely the 14x3.5 maple-shelled version, so there's always that too.

    Hope this narrows it down a little bit.
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    hey i'm a drummer as well, but have only been playing for a year. i started out on a early 90's pearl export and after about 9 months of playing on that set i wanted a better set, just because it was a pretty cheap sound. now i have a gretsch catalina maple set. its actually a fairly beginner set, only 700 bux (no hardware) its a 6 piece. 18X22 bass, 5.5X14 snare (i believe) 10,12,14,16 toms.

    starting out on a cheaper set is important, but don't get caught up in it too long, because a better sounding set really adds to your playing. if you feel like your playing well for the amount of months/years/wahtever you have been playing, then see about getting a new set if you want. i was very happy with my gretsch, and all though i SUCK at tuning drums, it does sound better, especially the bass drum which sounds great.

    as for cymbals, do not buy cheap cymbals, cheap cymbals are worse than cheap drums IMO. stay away from sabian b8's b8 pros, zildjian zbt's, paiste pst-3's.
    paiste pst-5's are the best cheap cymbals around IMO. or you can step up to paiste alphas. i own paiste alphas (90's versions of them,not the new model's) and for a beginner starting out, their fine. but after a year of playing, i am really looking for a better sound.

    oh and watch out with cymbals, as they can be more expensive then the drums themselves, and more cymbals is not as important as you think. originally i wanted like 3 splashes, 3 crashes, a ride, hi hats, 2 chinas. that is overkill. im happy with my set up now (hi hats,ride,2 crashes, splash, china) maybe a third crash down the road though.

    wow that was alot....hope this helped out.
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  • hard_sunhard_sun Posts: 381
    hey man...thanks so much...of course it helped...
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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    ok. back to Dave A's Snare, does anyone else can confirm the 12x7 instead of the 14x8 brady during his pearl jam recording days?
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    not to sound mean, but rather curious - what do you need the confirmation whether it was a 12x7 or 12x8 snare. Building your own kit to get the sound? Again, not trying to be mean whatsoever, just curious.

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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    Building your own kit to get the sound?

    yes, actually i'm making my own shell
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    are you getting a Keller shell?
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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    are you getting a Keller shell?


    i'll be using maple to create my own snare.

    another question, i remember reading some article that dave a used a picollo on recording "GO" was it true ? if so what's the spec of that picollo snare ?
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    hey i'm a drummer as well, but have only been playing for a year. i started out on a early 90's pearl export and after about 9 months of playing on that set i wanted a better set, just because it was a pretty cheap sound. now i have a gretsch catalina maple set. its actually a fairly beginner set, only 700 bux (no hardware) its a 6 piece. 18X22 bass, 5.5X14 snare (i believe) 10,12,14,16 toms.

    starting out on a cheaper set is important, but don't get caught up in it too long, because a better sounding set really adds to your playing. if you feel like your playing well for the amount of months/years/wahtever you have been playing, then see about getting a new set if you want. i was very happy with my gretsch, and all though i SUCK at tuning drums, it does sound better, especially the bass drum which sounds great.

    as for cymbals, do not buy cheap cymbals, cheap cymbals are worse than cheap drums IMO. stay away from sabian b8's b8 pros, zildjian zbt's, paiste pst-3's.
    paiste pst-5's are the best cheap cymbals around IMO. or you can step up to paiste alphas. i own paiste alphas (90's versions of them,not the new model's) and for a beginner starting out, their fine. but after a year of playing, i am really looking for a better sound.

    oh and watch out with cymbals, as they can be more expensive then the drums themselves, and more cymbals is not as important as you think. originally i wanted like 3 splashes, 3 crashes, a ride, hi hats, 2 chinas. that is overkill. im happy with my set up now (hi hats,ride,2 crashes, splash, china) maybe a third crash down the road though.

    wow that was alot....hope this helped out.

    Why is starting out on a cheaper set important ???
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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    back to dave's snares
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    coffee_party wrote:
    i'll be using maple to create my own snare.

    another question, i remember reading some article that dave a used a picollo on recording "GO" was it true ? if so what's the spec of that picollo snare ?


    are you actually building the shell yourself? Keller is a company that provides shells to virtually EVERY drum company (Tama, Rogers, ludwig, DW) going back to the 60's/70's drum shells have been manufactured by Keller. Chances are the Brady snare is made from a Keller shell. You can get a maple keller shell too.

    http://www.kelleratthecore.com/products.php?SubPage=custom
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    lucylespian wrote:
    Why is starting out on a cheaper set important ???

    well would you go out and buy a top of the line drumset for someone just starting out playing? just like would you buy your 10 yr old a les paul to start out with? i dont think you would.
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  • coffee_partycoffee_party Posts: 37
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    are you actually building the shell yourself?

    yes i am, i have the tools to make one. just experimenting that's why i wan't to know dave's exact snare size
  • *Toastie*Toastie Posts: 59
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    are you actually building the shell yourself? Keller is a company that provides shells to virtually EVERY drum company (Tama, Rogers, ludwig, DW) going back to the 60's/70's drum shells have been manufactured by Keller. Chances are the Brady snare is made from a Keller shell. You can get a maple keller shell too.

    http://www.kelleratthecore.com/products.php?SubPage=custom

    Brady make their own drums. They are making one for me right now! Cant wait to get it.
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  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    *Toastie wrote:
    Brady make their own drums. They are making one for me right now! Cant wait to get it.

    chances are it's a keller shell
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