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I'm starting to think that my Traynor may be a lemon.

Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
edited March 2006 in Musicians and Gearheads
The reverb has flat out stopped working. Don't know why, and I'm awaiting a response from their customer service. It also ate one power amp tube and one pre amp tube faster than I've ever seen before!

It's already gone back to factory once before to replace something to do with the tube sockets and transformer when it wouldn't stop feedbacking, and the LEDs were out of control about 3 years ago. Then it was under warranty, so I didn't have to worry about it.

Fast forward to the present:

The store I bought the amp closed down when the owner had made enough money to golf for the rest of his life (He's played in some pretty successful bands), and it's not under warranty. I already know that it's going to get sent back to the factory, and I'm going to have to face the brunt (all) of the shipping, labour and parts costs.

I'm hoping Traynor will just send me out a new one for free! :D But, I highly doubt that...
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  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Hmmmm.

    This could have an effect on my purchase......

    I'm still so torn between the YCV 40 and the Fender Deluxe??
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    Hmmmm.

    This could have an effect on my purchase......

    I'm still so torn between the YCV 40 and the Fender Deluxe??

    If it means anything to you, I've never heard of anyone's breaking down other than mine. :)
  • neoneo Posts: 89
    time to buy a new amp.
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Dirty_Frank wrote:
    If it means anything to you, I've never heard of anyone's breaking down other than mine. :)

    Oh great thanks!! ;)

    I'm gunna go with whatever feels right either way, I really do like the Deluxe!!
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    neo wrote:
    time to buy a new amp.

    Oh, I'd go out and buy a nice new Bogner tommorow if I wasn't a poor college bum.

    Give me 2 and a half years and we'll have the Bogner conversation again. ;)
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    Dirty_Frank wrote:
    If it means anything to you, I've never heard of anyone's breaking down other than mine. :)

    although ive had mine for only 8 months...its a year old...and there had never been a problem with it...still the original tubes and everything

    the only thing that im having a problem with is that on the footswitch sometimes the boost goes on and sometimes it doesnt go on when i hit it

    its not traynors fault, its mine...i throw my footswitch everywhere...lol

    traynor gave me a list of things they can do for me but they wont have a deffinant answer for 24-48 hours
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    They got back to me in less than an hour, so that's pretty prompt service If I've seen it. Wanted me to check the cables connecting the tank to the amplifier. :) Haha, that's the first thing I checked when it stopped working, but hey, they never know.

    That's the only advice they could give me. I've been redirected to an amp tech here in London.

    Don't know how I'm going to pay for this one! :)

    We'll find a way.
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    maybe its time for you to get that 50BLUE you wanted
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    maybe its time for you to get that 50BLUE you wanted


    I couldn't really tell the difference between the YCV40 and the 50Blue??

    HHV DF??
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    maybe its time for you to get that 50BLUE you wanted

    I think so too, but everything will have to go on hold until sometime in the summer. Everytime I think I'm about to be able to afford some new gear, I get bombarded by bills from landlords, electric companies, insurance companies, Pearl Jam tours, etc etc...

    I can't do anything about this amp until I get my credit card back down to a reasonable level, which is in the plans for the next two weeks worth of pay cheques.

    The government owes me a big wad of cash, and I should be getting back a 'damage deposit' I paid on my current apartment when I move out in two months. I also should have a fairly decent summer job [of which I should save money made for school], that will give me some spending money.

    I just figure that all the gear I want now, and that I can't afford, I'll make up for when I graduate.
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    I couldn't really tell the difference between the YCV40 and the 50Blue??

    HHV DF??

    I find the gain on the Blue to be more Marshall like. Thicker, transparent and responsive to picking.

    Essentially my conclusions have been: YCV40 - better clean, trying to emulate a Fender while the YCV50 - better gain, and it trying to emulate a Marshall.

    You can take the word 'emulate' with a grain of sand though. I think they're different in their own ways, but it seems as though this is the best way to describe it.

    That's just my opinion.
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Dirty_Frank wrote:
    I find the gain on the Blue to be more Marshall like. Thicker, transparent and responsive to picking.

    Essentially my conclusions have been: YCV40 - better clean, trying to emulate a Fender while the YCV50 - better gain, and it trying to emulate a Marshall.

    You can take the word 'emulate' with a grain of sand though. I think they're different in their own ways, but it seems as though this is the best way to describe it.

    That's just my opinion.

    Awesome thanks!!

    People have been telling me to really base my buy on the amp's clean channel, because if you have a good clean the rest is up for grabs sorta.

    It makes sense, and if that's the case, the Fender's clean is immaculate.

    I really like the OD channels on both the Deluxe and YCV though but the Deluxe seems more "Ledbetter Benaroya" if you know what i mean?

    I was also curious how my DS-1 would sound on the Deluxe and the YCV?
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    I couldn't really tell the difference between the YCV40 and the 50Blue??

    HHV DF??

    if you turn it a louder than a bedroom volume...as in volume 3 or higher, you will notice the difference

    the 50BLUE IMO is more of a british voxy/orange/vintage marshall sound

    i gotta tell you though, ive never heard an overdrive better than what I got going right now...with the OCD over the OD on the amp
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    Awesome thanks!!

    People have been telling me to really base my buy on the amp's clean channel, because if you have a good clean the rest is up for grabs sorta.

    It makes sense, and if that's the case, the Fender's clean is immaculate.

    I really like the OD channels on both the Deluxe and YCV though but the Deluxe seems more "Ledbetter Benaroya" if you know what i mean?

    I was also curious how my DS-1 would sound on the Deluxe and the YCV?

    i had a DS-2 before I got the YCV40 cuz i used a shitty mini marshall mg amp...i played it with the YCV40 when I first got it...IMO it was horrible...lol
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    I'm compiling clips of the different amps from Harmony-Central to give you a better idea for comparision:

    YCV40WR:

    Mexican Strat, OD ch1 w/boost , Zoom powerdrive pd-01 in front and wah

    Artist: dman11 @ harmony-central

    http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18841
    http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18777

    YCV50BLUE:

    Live clips from a forumite's gig at Casino Niagara last month:
    (Edit: damn.... some of these are better than the originals :eek:)

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=483520

    A little metal rhythm clip:
    http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/5/randyvansykes%2Btraynorycv50bluecomborhythmclip.mp3

    YCV80:

    I got this from MF because I can't find any others:

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/sound/popsnd=10120/printable=1/
  • moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    Awesome thanks!!

    People have been telling me to really base my buy on the amp's clean channel, because if you have a good clean the rest is up for grabs sorta.

    It makes sense, and if that's the case, the Fender's clean is immaculate.

    I really like the OD channels on both the Deluxe and YCV though but the Deluxe seems more "Ledbetter Benaroya" if you know what i mean?

    I was also curious how my DS-1 would sound on the Deluxe and the YCV?

    I have a Fender Blues Junior, which only has a clean channel, but a master and volume knob, so you can overdrive it while keeping the volume low. I use a DS-2 and I think it sounds pretty good through it.
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    man if i had a good mic i would post clips of the WR...with the tone i got...u guys would jizz yourselves...lmao

    the crap mic i got sounds like shit, maybe i should still post some clips
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    man if i had a good mic i would post clips of the WR...with the tone i got...u guys would jizz yourselves...lmao

    the crap mic i got sounds like shit, maybe i should still post some clips

    Do it anyways! I record through my iBook mic.

    :D
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    Dirty_Frank wrote:
    Do it anyways! I record through my iBook mic.

    :D

    i got this sweet ass tone of an Ed sound overdriven Immortality sound...i think that would be recorded well on my computer...

    you have a site i can upload to?
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Dirty_Frank wrote:
    I'm compiling clips of the different amps from Harmony-Central to give you a better idea for comparision:

    YCV40WR:

    Mexican Strat, OD ch1 w/boost , Zoom powerdrive pd-01 in front and wah

    Artist: dman11 @ harmony-central

    http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18841
    http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18777

    YCV50BLUE:

    Live clips from a forumite's gig at Casino Niagara last month:
    (Edit: damn.... some of these are better than the originals :eek:)

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=483520

    A little metal rhythm clip:
    http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/5/randyvansykes%2Btraynorycv50bluecomborhythmclip.mp3

    YCV80:

    I got this from MF because I can't find any others:

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/sound/popsnd=10120/printable=1/


    Those are the amp's being used in the clips??
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    i got this sweet ass tone of an Ed sound overdriven Immortality sound...i think that would be recorded well on my computer...

    you have a site i can upload to?

    gmail it to me and I'll host it on my small HC server.

    mattlongstaffe@gmail.com
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    Those are the amp's being used in the clips??

    As far as I know, yeah. The 40WR ones, the metal 50BLUE one and the YCV80 ones for sure. The live ones I'm 95% sure. I think he said that he was using the 50BLUE at that gig.
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Dirty_Frank wrote:
    As far as I know, yeah. The 40WR ones, the metal 50BLUE one and the YCV80 ones for sure. The live ones I'm 95% sure. I think he said that he was using the 50BLUE at that gig.

    Who's gig was it??
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    Who's gig was it??

    I don't know his real name, but his Harmony-Central username is RandyVanSykes. His band is called New York Minute. He's from St. Catherines I believe.

    I remember when he got his 50BLUE, the forum just erupted with the clips he posted. I think he's personally responsible for selling like 50 of them to people who post on Harmony Central.

    Edit: Those live clips may be a Marshall Superlead, but I'm going to find out right now. :)
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    i was just playing along to the Immortality studio version and its so slow, like the intro and my computer crunked out during the solo so it just stopped recording, lol

    let me see if i have something else
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    Awesome thanks!!

    I'm going back in this weekend to try them out, I already have HHV's WR settings, but would you recommend anything also??

    Settings or anything like that??? For the 50BLUE and YCV40 :)
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • Dirty_FrankDirty_Frank Posts: 957
    Here's how I usually have my amp set, but you gotta remember that I also have a master that really changes the tonality.

    Gain 7
    Volume 5
    Treble 3
    Mid 7
    Bass 5
    Volume 5
    Treble 5
    Mid 6
    Bass 4
    Reverb - doesn't work :mad:
    Master 2

    I'm playing with a Les Paul at this moment, but these setting sound even better with a Strat.
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,135
    yeah i jsut recorded evolution and my mic blows...im buying a new mic pretty soon so ill have it then :)

    edit: im recording an original song that is kind of mellow for someone, maybe ill send it here if it turns out good, its 80% clean
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    I so wish they had the YCV40 WR at my store....I love the look of that one!!
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    I just don't want to rush my decision just because of the deal on the Deluxe right now, I mean $495 from $770 is huge and I love the amp, but I just want to make sure......because the Traynor's a awesome to, and I don't want to be sucked in by "Fender's name" either....

    I wish I could play them all behind curtains and do like a blind amp test....i guess i could??? :)
    "I Miss You Already!!!!!"

    "Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent, Seems the more you make equals the loneliness you get"

    .NJD.
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