anyone notice they "sweetened" ed's vocals on VH1

StuffnJunk

one of the yells in WWS and again in gone and life wasted...........i think they took the album versions to cover up some notes he hit that someone must have deemed "shitty"

Pearl Jam and toast

nooo....

dunno what you're listening too.

DOSW

How can you tell? I didn't notice anything.

enharmonic

It's possible, but it is more likely that they pitch corrected the actual performance if they did anything at all. Then again, that would require more than a 2-mix...so who knows?

Where you at the performance when he didn't hit the notes the first time? This is an interesting topic for an audio weenie like myself.

BlindMelonade

I don't think that ed would want this to happen to his vocals...

dont_go_on_me

BlindMelonade wrote:

I don't think that ed would want this to happen to his vocals...

I doubt he'd have a say in the matter. VH1 does all the editing.

harrisonmerwin

you can buy pitch editors for recording software, bout 300-400. They work great if your allready a good singer, just to refine your allready great project. You can move them a semitone, and it doesnt5 change the timing at all. very handy and extremely easy to do as long as the vocal track is seperate from all others (which it wuold be anyways) i havent seen the performance, but its definately a good possibility

Ali

well,doesnt he ALWAYS have an effect on his voice anyway?
The only recording I did in a studio,I refused it all...
iguess I gotta mail it to mc now....:D

elstongunn

StuffnJunk wrote:

one of the yells in WWS and again in gone and life wasted...........i think they took the album versions to cover up some notes he hit that someone must have deemed "shitty"

i did notice when he screamed and backed away dropping his voice from the mic the volume stayed lthe same. seemed impossible.

dont_go_on_me

elstongunn wrote:

i did notice when he screamed and backed away dropping his voice from the mic the volume stayed lthe same. seemed impossible.

noticed that too.

Pearl Jam and toast

^^ that wasn't "sweetening" it was just video editing.

Vh1 is all about appearances, so they made it look cool by picking and choosing shots and kept the same audio.

i've seen them do it before.



But,.. if it was in fact edited then it definetly wasn't the studio version.. they probably just increased ed's mic volume.

StuffnJunk

well i read how in 1992 eddie gave such a shitty performance of state of love and trust on the singles premeire special that brendan o'brien edited using the studio version in certain spots........and on stroytellers when he hits the last note of life wasted ( Agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiin!!!!) i'm telling you thats what it sounds like

and also in gone but i forget where offhand, and in WWS when he says the "truths already out there" he drops away from the mike for the word "there" but you still hear it

sometimes on Single Video Theory the sound and audio don't sync up........but that is different cuz they had many takes of each song, so they took one audio take and used the best video shots from different performances (eddie sometimes has on 2 different shirts in the course of one song!)

the setlist for the show has been released online.........if they only played each song once then where did they get these missing audio pieces form???????????????

harrisonmerwin

i wish i could watch it to see

samquigley

While I haven't seen the performance, I think you'll find audio engineers use things called "compressors" and "limiters" which a) stop loud spikes in the signal, like screams and plosives, and b) raise the level of quieter passages, such as those sung slightly off-mic. Sort of like "normalizing" on-the-fly. They probably recorded live with some mild compression, then hit it with some harder limiting on mixdown to raise the overall level. That's my guess, anyway.

sennin

.....and "sweetened" is fancy hollywood lingo for, "add sugar to".

Pearl Jam and toast

biffhardon wrote:

While I haven't seen the performance, I think you'll find audio engineers use things called "compressors" and "limiters" which a) stop loud spikes in the signal, like screams and plosives, and b) raise the level of quieter passages, such as those sung slightly off-mic. Sort of like "normalizing" on-the-fly. They probably recorded live with some mild compression, then hit it with some harder limiting on mixdown to raise the overall level. That's my guess, anyway.

*nods*





Mitch Hedburg is a God

...or maybe a martyr :(...

StuffnJunk

biffhardon wrote:

While I haven't seen the performance, I think you'll find audio engineers use things called "compressors" and "limiters" which a) stop loud spikes in the signal, like screams and plosives, and b) raise the level of quieter passages, such as those sung slightly off-mic. Sort of like "normalizing" on-the-fly. They probably recorded live with some mild compression, then hit it with some harder limiting on mixdown to raise the overall level. That's my guess, anyway.

thats not the case here.........you have to see it