Rearview REmixes
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Any body know if the drums were re-recorded for Once, Alive and Even flow on the rearview mirror CD? Were they done by Matt Cameron?
Also does anyone know which console Brendan O'Brien used for the original Ten Mix and also on the Rear View CD?
Thanks
Also does anyone know which console Brendan O'Brien used for the original Ten Mix and also on the Rear View CD?
Thanks
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The re-mixes are just a re-working of the original tracks. Same performance, just tweaked for a different sound. Dave Krusen.
Brenden O'Brien didn't do the original mixes of Ten, that was (I believe) Rick Parashar. The Rearview Mirror mixes are mostly the original mixes, the only ones redone were Black, Alive, and Once (right?).
Good luck finding console/gear info for any of that stuff... but if you find it, let me know.
Even Flow sounds like a completely different version.
Re Consoles: Consensus is original was mixed on a Neve (from the photos on the cover) and the new mixes done on an SSL. Thoughts?
If anyone knows which studios they were mixed that'd help. We have a Gear Geek who could tell us what console they have.
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O'Brien produced VS, Vitalogy, No Code, and Yield. He also did a few mixes on Binaural, and the re-mixes on RVM (not to mention rare/b-side stuff from those eras).
I really like the re-mixes that he did of the Ten stuff, and I kinda wish they'd give him the whole album to re-mix. It's not really practical, but I love his touch, and I don't really care for the overall production on Ten.
I wish I knew the consoles, mics, preamps, outboard gear, etc. used on any and all PJ albums, but the only info I've been able to gather is what they use on the road (Midas XL4). I thought there was an article in Mix Magazine about the recording of Riot Act, but I can't seem to find it, so maybe I was smoking crack.
But it wouldn't at all surprise me if Neve and/or SSL were used on their recordings. Neve's are more popular as tracking consoles these days, and SSL's are the ultimate mix-down console, so it's possible that they were both used.
Like I said, I'd love to find out, so if you hunt down the details, fill a brother in...
Tim Palmer mixed Ten.
You think the Slayer tour is out, or what?
"Finally! I get to save the earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide shows." -- Al Gore.
I stand corrected.
Mig, next time I talk to my friend at Doppler I'll ask if they've talked shop at all, I'd like to check the gear out as well, most of the folks are using the new Pro Tools Logic 7 though so I wouldn't be suprised if that's the platform with a few brightening do dads and maximisers intertwined eh?
Most of the boards in the main studios looked very much like Neve's but I don't think that was the exact brand, the only brand I remember was on the preamps (Focusrite) and the Mics pretty much depend on the producer and the band I think, I know PJ like to use Blue now, but it's tough to go in to a studio and not find several Neumanns.
I personally love the new mix, brighter, not muddy at all, ALL guitar parts are clearly heard, the vocals sound better, though I'm glad to have both, there was something cool about that haunting quality of the reverb and backing stuff on TEN kind of dark and brooding, I know I identified with that when I was a Teen.
Focusrite makes some damn nice gear, that's for sure. I was looking at the Focusrite Octo-Pre when I was gathering up my stuff, but I settled on a PreSonus.
Neve preamps are really good... but if it's not a Neve board, but looks like one, I'd bet it's a Trident. And mics are mics... everyone has their preferences. I personally love AKG 414's for good large-diaphram condensers.
As for the ProTools stuff... ProTools LE has a maximizer, and those kinds of effects (active comp/limit/expanders with clearer highs) are becoming a lot more popular. It's finally getting to the point where the clarity of digital is being embraced, not shunned (in favor of analog warmth).
Now that you mention it, Trident sounds about right. The advantages of non linear digital are many and ve have vays of making it sound more warm. I've spent more than a few hours in front of final cut pro praising it for not being analog and linear. What did you think of the remixes?
I really don't care for the original production on Ten (I know I'm in the minority, and I'm liable to get flamed for it now), so I love the remixes. Much more straight-forward, just the band playing the songs. No cheesy recycled 80's delays and reverbs, and a much clearer sound. The guitars are a little more life-like, and the vocals are a lot better. The biggest difference is in the drums; it's not a dramatic difference, but it's a much smoother, more natural feel to their sound.