Advices for a versatille guitar?

black_geoblack_geo Posts: 31
edited December 2006 in Musicians and Gearheads
I'm doing some research before buying my 2nd guitar. I want a nice warm sound on my new guitar,that can cover a little more music genres (that's what versatillity means on the title) in an affordable price (500-1000 euro)!Some ideas??
If I would, would you?
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  • moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    black_geo wrote:
    I'm doing some research before buying my 2nd guitar. I want a nice warm sound on my new guitar,that can cover a little more music genres (that's what versatillity means on the title) in an affordable price (500-1000 euro)!Some ideas??

    Well, whats your first guitar?
  • I have a Washburn WE-10 and that's why I want to buy something better!
    If I would, would you?
  • NovawindNovawind Posts: 836
    *doh* I didn't first read if you were looking for electric or acoustic. Oh well, here are my electric recommendations.

    People say good things about this guy, Gibson Les Paul studio. Less "features" than the Standard but it still plays and sounds well, and is within your price range.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Les-Paul-Studio-Electric-Guitar?sku=517030

    I guess that's for more of a rock/alternative feel. If you want to play some blues too, I'd suggest a Fender Stratocaster (the Americans, higher quality) are within your price range.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-American-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar?sku=510590

    There are other Strats around that range, with humbuckers in the bridge (HSS) and deluxe/ash models, so basically you choose how much money you spend and what you want in your guitar, but choosing American over Standard (made in Mexico) will probably get you a higher quality. Since this is your second guitar I'm assuming it will be an investment and you're gonna keep it for a while.
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  • I always say this, but the Godins are a nice option as well. You can get some with acoustic bridges, synth access, etc for that price.
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  • For electric, I'd say a strat. That's a personal thing though, I love em'
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  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Nothing against strats, but Les PAuls are ceratinly versatile. Don't think you can only play rock on them.
    Blues, jazz, fusion, (think Frank Zappa/ McLaughlin/Mahavishnu Orchestra if you need convincing), traditional rock, heavy metal, grunge ( how I hate that term) all easy and within reach.
    The Studio is the same beast, just plainly finished so are MUCH cheaper, however personally I think teh look of a guitar is as important. I have seen some wine red studios which were nice, but they look a bit of a lump. Strats are nice to play, but I find them a bit plain. They are fuctional works of art and beauty is worth paying for if you can afford it.
    Gibsons hold their value well, are more expensive initially than Fender, but are often well cared for adn great guitars can be found on e-bay for modest prices. I have a Standard Limited Edition which is as much a pleasure to hold and own as it is to play. I like the alnico Burstbuckers and would have them over ceramic pups certainly. Les Pauls are very individual instruments and all look and play a bit differently.
    Here's a pic.
    http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/lucylespian/phonepics004.jpg

    The suggestion above about Godin is good, they get neglected by the Fender obsession club that seems to dominate this board, but are great guitars and have options with piezo bridges etc which neither Fender or Gibson offer to my incomplete knowledge.
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  • My stock answer for a "versatile" guitar is a Strat with a humbucker in the bridge (HSS configuration). You get both single-coil and humbuckers, and 5-way switching gives you a lot of tones. Any other brand with this configuration would do the same thing, I'm sure Godin makes a quasi-Strat with HSS pickups.

    The other stock answer is a Line 6 Variax. Reasonably priced, lots of great sounds. Not always the best hardware, though... it can take some work to get it really playable if you get a bad one. I had one of the first Variax 500 models, and I loved the hell out of it. The newer Variax 300 and 600 models are both nice enough.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Saying a Les Paul is versatile when Strats exist is highly illogical. I guess its more versatile than an Esquire or a single P90 SG..

    Or I guess you could go for a coil tapped Les Paul, but I haven't seen any around lately.
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  • Saying a Les Paul is versatile when Strats exist is highly illogical. I guess its more versatile than an Esquire or a single P90 SG..

    Or I guess you could go for a coil tapped Les Paul, but I haven't seen any around lately.

    I sorta agree, then again, there are more versitile guitars then Strats. Though I am partial to the Strat tone.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • I sorta agree, then again, there are more versitile guitars then Strats. Though I am partial to the Strat tone.

    Thanks to everyone on here, i now find it impossible to want any less than 3 guitars. I just bought a tele 2 days ago and I've already decided my next purchase is custom shop 58 LP Jr
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  • Thanks to everyone on here, i now find it impossible to want any less than 3 guitars. I just bought a tele 2 days ago and I've already decided my next purchase is custom shop 58 LP Jr

    Pfft... I have my next to planned out. Fender US strat and Gibson Les Paul Standard, just need to figure out what to get first.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • NovawindNovawind Posts: 836
    I have mine planned out. Gibson SG 61 RI, Fender American Deluxe Strat HSS, Epiphone Casino
    If idle hands are the devil's workshop, he must not be very productive.

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  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Saying a Les Paul is versatile when Strats exist is highly illogical. I guess its more versatile than an Esquire or a single P90 SG..

    Or I guess you could go for a coil tapped Les Paul, but I haven't seen any around lately.


    Saying that because one type of guitar is versatile that another can't be is illogical. Fender is like Harley, a national brand with a huge amount of brand pride amongst it's followers, but that does not mean that everyone else sucks !!
    Versatility is a product of guitar, amp, effects and above all, playing skill and dynamics and can't be just attributed to just owning a bloody Strat !!
    Music is not a competetion.
  • Saying that because one type of guitar is versatile that another can't be is illogical. Fender is like Harley, a national brand with a huge amount of brand pride amongst it's followers, but that does not mean that everyone else sucks !!
    Versatility is a product of guitar, amp, effects and above all, playing skill and dynamics and can't be just attributed to just owning a bloody Strat !!

    But... But... Hendrix played a strat! Way to crush my dreams!
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Saying that because one type of guitar is versatile that another can't be is illogical. Fender is like Harley, a national brand with a huge amount of brand pride amongst it's followers, but that does not mean that everyone else sucks !!
    Versatility is a product of guitar, amp, effects and above all, playing skill and dynamics and can't be just attributed to just owning a bloody Strat !!

    I never said a Les Paul can't be versatile, but it simply isn't as versatile as a strat. A strat has 3 pickups, at least 5 combinations, whereas les pauls usually have two pickups with 3 combos. Nor did I say everyone else sucks. Gibsons and Fenders are both awesome, but different. If anything, Gibson is more like Harley in that it's all American.
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  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    I never said a Les Paul can't be versatile, but it simply isn't as versatile as a strat. A strat has 3 pickups, at least 5 combinations, whereas les pauls usually have two pickups with 3 combos. Nor did I say everyone else sucks. Gibsons and Fenders are both awesome, but different. If anything, Gibson is more like Harley in that it's all American.

    "Saying a Les Paul is versatile when Strats exist is highly illogical"

    Yeh you did !! If versatility was just about the number of pup/combinations then we'ed all be playing Ernie Ball Steve Morse copies.
    I agree that the strat has a lot of versatility in it, just couldn't see how that made a dual humbucker git non-verstatile.
    Versatility is also about how a guitar responds to the amplifier and how much difference there is between the pups and how they respond to the position in the guitar. If you are playing through a digital modelling amp, it doesn't matter shit cos a $10 000 LP will sound the same as a $250 Squier, and solid state isn't much better.


    ON the other hand, old mate actually bought a tele, which he and plenty of other peopple on this forum think are highly versatile, which has only 2 pups. Don't know meself, never played one.

    The reference to HArley was more about the whole product range that goes with the guitars and the devotion some people seem to have. Isaw some guys at a cafe teh other day with the whole HArley product catalugue on between them. Bikes, helmets, bandanas, shirts, jeans, belts, vests, pins, even the arseless chaps, and it brought to mind the Fender everything owners.
    IN Australia it expresses itself as HOlden cars vs Ford, whichis a bit like Gibson vs Fender, but I think they are all great and just get a bit browned by the Fender obsession around here.
    Music is not a competetion.
  • If I would, would you?
  • black_geo wrote:

    If they sold the Jap jags in Canada I'd buy one in a SECOND.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • black_geo wrote:
    I'm doing some research before buying my 2nd guitar. I want a nice warm sound on my new guitar,that can cover a little more music genres (that's what versatillity means on the title) in an affordable price (500-1000 euro)!Some ideas??

    you can't go wrong with an SG standard...
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    you can't go wrong with an SG standard...


    Very true, nothing warmer than an alnico humbucker on the neck.
    Music is not a competetion.
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