Learning the Guitar

MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,728
edited April 2006 in Musicians and Gearheads
I have been trying to learn the guitar. What is an easy Pearl jam song/PJ covered song to learn via tab?
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,728
    Oh yeah, it is an acoustic guitar...
    Ill check out Wishlist
  • nailz100nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    Last kiss...elderly woman...immortality
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  • nailz100 wrote:
    Last kiss...elderly woman...immortality

    chords arent easy for a beginner

    look at Rearview Mirror...everyone never says that but it was the first song i ever learned on guitar, its so easy

    i would say lukin but its hard to hold a power chord on an acoustic depending on the action (hieght of strings from fretboard)
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  • nailz100nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    Chords are what you shoudl be learning in the first place anyways..
    Only with our eyes closed can we truly see
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,728
    I have learned a lot of chords, but have run into some trouble with barre chords.
    I think that if I had the motivation factor of working through a PJ song, I can make some big strides.
    I dont know, maybe that's the wrong way to go...
  • HailHail is right, fretting a chord is a biatch when you've just started out ...

    That being said ... some are easier than others ... and certainly an open E chord is one of the easiest ...

    thus

    NOT FOR YOU
    would get my vote for one helluva easy song.

    Also, with very little in the way of chordage ... the lead riff to
    ANIMAL
    would also be one i learned very early on in the game.

    CORDUROY
    could be done with a modest effort, though the intro timing can be a bit hard for a beginner, i imagine. Hell i have trouble sometimes.

    RELEASE
    makes a great canditate for an easy picking song and

    the lead riff for
    PORCH is another no-brainer chorder for the beginner.

    I would suggest, when you just start out, not getting too attached to the notion of PLAYING AN ENTIRE SONG ... it just isn't likely to happen that often.

    For one, any song with a solo is gonna kill you. Unless it is a ridiculous easy one ... secondly ... most songs sound retarded played alone without some other form of instrumentation (voice included) ... and pearl jam songs especially rely heavily on the the mix of sounds created by FIVE BRILLIANT MUSICIANS.

    That being said, listen to the albums and find tracks that have repetitive bits ... like the songs listed above ... then get the tabs for those songs ... you'll find parts that you can do ... and it will lead to a sense of accomplishment. You can always come back to fill in the blank spots when your hands are stronger, your fingers more calloused, and your technical skill more proficient.

    BETTERMAN has its easy parts ...
    SATANS BED is a solid cakewalk from verse to chorus

    I don't want to pretend like it is EASY, but
    GIVEN TO FLY is devoid of any real hard chording ... it's mostly picking and timing. But it IS tricky, to an extent.

    INDIFFERENCE is also easy as pie to pick out.
    And like was already mentioned
    REARVIEW MIRROR is easy. Though, i do conceed that maintaining the pattern for the duration of the song does require endurance.

    Well,
    That should certainly get you started.

    Oh, try Jeremy ... I also, and some may disagree here, but ... I personally, would recommend picking up the TEN TAB BOOK ... it is certainly FAR FROM PERFECT, and on the whole misses the boat on all the songs with alternate tunings ... but it does serve well to give you an example of the STUDIO WORK that gets put into making these great songs. Buy this i mean, the book is overflowing with FILL PATTERNS and 2nd Guitar RIFFS ... this helps to give you a good understanding of how parts work togeather. ALso of how what you thought was only one part is really 2, 3, or sometimes 4 or 5.

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  • Parting Ways is a good one too....
    "This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."

    - Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03


  • Let me add this ...
    to the notion of learning chords first, versus other forms of study.

    YOU SHOULD GIVE GREAT ATTENTION TO LEARNING ... BY ROTE ... THE E MAJOR and E MINOR SCALES ...

    I would focus soley on these two scales, and understand that THE ONLY difference is the number of semitones between the 2nd and 3rd ... and also the 7th and 8th (or octave, ie ... the next E note)

    Learning the E scale ... E MAJ in particular is imperative to understanding the operation of the fret board. The guitar is based in E ... that is why the 1st and 6th string are E notes. and the 12th fret is the Octave, and thus has 2 dots to indicate that you are just repeating the first 11 frets over in a higher register.

    If you learn this one scale ... then reduce it to its pentatonic brethren ... you will understand so much more than i ever did when i started. As i totally ignored it. All you do from there is shift the whole scale up or down the neck to get whichever other key you want.

    ONE OTHER GREAT PIECE OF INFORMATION TO PAY ATTENTION TO:
    And this is covered in books like "Fretboard Logic" and whatnot ...
    The guitar, and it's chords are all very simply constructed, despite how they appear.

    THE KEY TO THIS IS THE B STRING ...
    note when tuning your guitar ... you put your finger on the 5th fret of EVERY string and pluck the open note of the string below to match tones and tune your guitar. EVERY string is tuned 5 semi-tones HIGHER than the string above it. E-F(e to f is only a half step, one semi-tone)-G-A ... FIVE semitones from the E string to A ... 5 from A to D ... 5 from D to G ... 5 from G to ... OH WAIT ... THERE IS ONE STRING THAT IS A FUKED UP FOOL ... and it is the B STRING ... it is only FOUR SEMI-TONES higher than it's neighbor to the north (G) ...

    see: G to A (2 semi's) A to B (2 semi's) ... so if you fret the 5th on the G string you will get a C ... which is actually the 1st fret on the B string (not the open note)

    THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND for this reason (and some others, i suppose) .... :

    Look at the A CHORD and the D CHORD ...
    Look at the E CHORD and the A CHORD (and i mean the 1st position chords)

    A is just a barre of the D G and B strings at the SECOND FRET

    D is a barre of the G B and E strings at the SECOND FRET ... BUT with the third fret pushed down on the B string ... LOOK AT THIS ...

    remember what we just said about the B string?
    It is only FOUR SEMI-TONES higher than the G STRING? Well ... if it HAD BEEN FIVE ... the D CHORD would be EXACTLY THE SAME SHAPE AS THE A CHORD.

    This logic applies to the E CHORD AND THE A CHORD AS WELL ... In fact ... the D chord is just a mis-shaped A chord because of the B string ... and HECK if the A CHORD isn't actually a mis-shaped E CHORD because of the B String ... you just slide the note fretted on the B string BACK to the headstock ONE FRET and VOILA ! ! !

    This sounds stupid ... but it makes understanding the logic of the fretboard SO MUCH EASIER ... don't FRET over it, or beat it to death, just keep it in mind and you will be better of for it.

    :)
    ok that was my lame attempt at theory for the day.
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  • Parting Ways is a good one too....

    True,
    but if you think about it ... it's probably not the easiest for a beginner, because it requires the use of the PINKY ...

    to hammer on the G# to A and back off in the verse ...

    This is likely a sore spot for a beginner.
    Hell i had trouble even bunching my fingers into an E chord when i started.

    Nevertheless, it is a fairly straightforward song.
    And one Eddie certainly plays solo presets with.
    :)
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  • BlackCorduroyBlackCorduroy Posts: 1,374
    I dont know about elderly woman...the shords are easy but the rythem can be tough for a beginner

    Rocking in the free word, RVM, not for you, wishlist are all easy
  • Rockin In The Free World
    main verse-this is the power chord version not the chord
    e
    b
    g
    d-2-2-2-2-2-2-2--7--5-5*-5*
    a-2-2-2-2-2-2-2--5--3-3*-3*
    E

    * = light picking

    spin the black circle - main riff

    e
    b
    g
    d-10-10--9--7--5
    a-8---8---7--5--3
    E

    RVM - intro

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    5---5--7
    E--5-5---5
    0--0

    repeat that until u notice the change, ed goes

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    7---7--7
    E--7-7---7
    0--0


    not for you---most of the song

    e
    b-0---0---0
    g-1---3---4
    d-2---4---5
    a-2---4---5
    E

    i made my own version of BUSHLEAGUER for the intro

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a-9-9-9-9--4-4--5-5--4-4
    E-7-7-7-7--2-2--3-3--2-2
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
  • nailz100nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    Yeah, but spin the black circle is fast....probably not too easy for a beginner.
    Only with our eyes closed can we truly see
  • did u like my bushleaguer version?
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
  • If you like the soun fof any pj song when you are lsitening to it and it dont seem out of bounds to you then just get the tab and play along. pearl jam stuff is EASY!

    that IS true...but for an average player, this person is a beginner...plus hes using an acoustic which its hard to get specific songs for that because its hard to hold a 3 string power chord on an acoustic, well atleast it is on my acoustic, but my acoustic is 100$ yahmaha, lol
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
  • Hey, I'm going through the same thing, I just started playing about 2 weeks ago or something, I found wishlist pretty easy. Hope you enjoy playing!
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  • Rockin In The Free World
    main verse-this is the power chord version not the chord
    e
    b
    g
    d-2-2-2-2-2-2-2--7--5-5*-5*
    a-2-2-2-2-2-2-2--5--3-3*-3*
    E

    * = light picking

    spin the black circle - main riff

    e
    b
    g
    d-10-10--9--7--5
    a-8---8---7--5--3
    E

    RVM - intro

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    5---5--7
    E--5-5---5
    0--0

    repeat that until u notice the change, ed goes

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    7---7--7
    E--7-7---7
    0--0


    not for you---most of the song

    e
    b-0---0---0
    g-1---3---4
    d-2---4---5
    a-2---4---5
    E

    i made my own version of BUSHLEAGUER for the intro

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a-9-9-9-9--4-4--5-5--4-4
    E-7-7-7-7--2-2--3-3--2-2

    i use the same tabs for the bushleaguer intro except i use
    e
    b
    g
    d-9-9-9-9--4-4--5-5--4-4
    a-9-9-9-9--4-4--5-5--4-4
    E-7-7-7-7--2-2--3-3--2-2
    [/
  • MayDay10 wrote:
    I have been trying to learn the guitar. What is an easy Pearl jam song/PJ covered song to learn via tab?

    i have to agree with all the songs suggested, and not to play a full song at first. i love the feeling of hearing a part of a new song learned when you play it. good luck with learning
  • i use the same tabs for the bushleaguer intro except i use
    e
    b
    g
    d-9-9-9-9--4-4--5-5--4-4
    a-9-9-9-9--4-4--5-5--4-4
    E-7-7-7-7--2-2--3-3--2-2
    [/


    haha nice, yeah i sent the tabs into ultimate-guitar.com and they said that they werent accepted because it was either wrong or their were too many version, theres only 1 version on the site and its tricky
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  • chris01chris01 Posts: 559
    RVM - intro

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    5---5--7
    E--5-5---5
    0--0

    repeat that until u notice the change, ed goes

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    7---7--7
    E--7-7---7
    0--0

    RVM - intro

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    0---5--7
    E--5-5---5
    0--0

    repeat that until u notice the change, ed goes

    e
    b
    g
    d
    a
    0---7--9
    E--7-7---7
    0--0


    Thats the way i play RVM, i dont have my guitar in front of me right now but from what i remember first hit on the A string is open for both parts.
  • moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    REARVIEW MIRROR is easy. Though, i do conceed that maintaining the pattern for the duration of the song does require endurance.

    I find to keep RVM going at the proper pace, without f-ing up is one hell of an endurance trial, like running a marathon! Especially the end, if you're not soloing, to wail on those power chords for a good minute and a half to two.
  • chris01chris01 Posts: 559
    moster78 wrote:
    I find to keep RVM going at the proper pace, without f-ing up is one hell of an endurance trial, like running a marathon! Especially the end, if you're not soloing, to wail on those power chords for a good minute and a half to two.

    Yeah the end is pretty tough to get down when you're just learning it but you get used to it. I found the chords where he's playing along to the lyric 'I couldn't breathe....' hard for a while to get the timing right.

    Once you learn though its fun to play.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Not for you.

    Just slide the E shape up 2 frets and then another. easy peasy.
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  • Rockin In The Free World
    main verse-this is the power chord version not the chord
    e
    b
    g
    d-2-2-2-2-2-2-2--7--5-5*-5*
    a-2-2-2-2-2-2-2--5--3-3*-3*
    E

    for the chorus i play:

    e-3--0--0
    b-3--3--1
    g-0--2--0--5-5/4/
    d-0--0--2--5-5/4/2
    a-2--x--3--3-3/2/2
    E-3--x

    than pre-chorus A/A7 ope chord and than back to E5/D5/C5
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,728
    Wow, you guys ressurrected this thread from the boneyard...

    These tips and reccomendations helped me a lot. I started to improve. I broke a string, tried to restring the guitar myself and did it wrong where the guitar goes out of tune after 5 minutes of playing. I got lazy, never got it restrung and it site there...

    But seeing this thread has made me wnt to give some deserved love to the guitar again.
  • chris01chris01 Posts: 559
    You have to pull on the strings a bit before you put them onto the guitar man.
    Being wound they get stretched when you first fit them onto a guitar.
    If you stretch them a few times, tune it, strum for a few mins. If its out of tune then just tune it again.
    Its a little frustrating at first but within 10 mins it should hold a tuning, if it doesnt its not new strings you need, its a new guitar, lol.
  • MayDay10 wrote:
    I have been trying to learn the guitar. What is an easy Pearl jam song/PJ covered song to learn via tab?

    I know it's not a PJ song but if you're up to a challenge maybe the first 45 seconds of Stairway to Heaven?
    "Feel it rising, yeah next stop falling!"

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  • Easy acoustic PJ songs= Thin Air, Off He Goes, Black, Wishlist..

    Once you have a handle on those try Elderly Woman, Low Light, Nothing Man and Crazy Mary

    All these sound really good on acoustic and, if you know your chords, are pretty simple.

    http://www.chordie.com/song.php/songartist/Pearl%20Jam/index.html

    Keep practicing and you'll get it in no time
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