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WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
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I tried to post three links yesterday...I will try again now. Three links to three different amps. One of them WILL be my second amp, oh yes, it wiiillll beeee.
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/480865/

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/480726/
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    And the last link.....

    http://www.orangeamps.com/products/ad_series_ad30r.html
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Awesome.

    Awesome

    and

    Awesome

    it depends on what you like best.

    I adore that new bassman I obviously love orange, and if it weren't $2,100 I'd think a lot more of the Twin. That twin is fantastic, but at $2,100 I can't justify it.

    The new bassman is phenominal.
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    So you're saying any of those would look good next to my bassman 10?
    I agree. Yeah, the twin would be nice but so out of my price range now.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    WiLL75 wrote:
    So you're saying any of those would look good next to my bassman 10?
    I agree. Yeah, the twin would be nice but so out of my price range now.


    anyone would be fine, you need to determine the character you want.

    the AD30 is obviously chimey and wooley as all british EL-84 amps are. The V30's are great. The reverb is full and rich Overdrive is almost a fuzz with the gain up loud, however with the gain turned down and significant volume boosts cascaded into the front end it's heaven.

    The Bassman is all tweed, full, loose, loud, overdrive is bassy but loose (6L6's) fullness to die for. Fantastic with single coils, extremely fat with P-90's. It really shows off your guitar and the various pickups, you know what position you are in and how hot each respective pickup is as well as how bright the wood in your guitar is or is not.

    Don't write off the new twin obviously as it is incredible I just can't justify 2,100 for it. Lots of tricks with that amp like channel jumping and taking out one of the rectifiers to adjust the compression level. In the hands of a master, it is a masterful amplifier.
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    A Bassman next to a Bassman just seems...right. But I'm thinking they would both sound similar, maybe harder to decipher which amp I'm going though, how much of a blend..etc. Or maybe since it is a '59 it would sound different enough from a '73?

    So that leaves the Orange and the Twin. What I'd want to do is have my 10 be the clean amp and the new one be dirty amp. Gain up all the way, natural OD sound...and blend between the two.
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    So I'm thinking you've played through that '59 bassman?
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    WiLL75 wrote:
    So I'm thinking you've played through that '59 bassman?

    yeah, and the twin too. I listened to a new twin for about 2 hours with the guy playing a fairly hot telecaster a strat and then a very hot telecaster and I've put around 45 minutes on the new 59 lacquered tweed bassman with a variety of guitars. The little tweaks made by the custom shop and the new groove tubes are very good.

    I think the new bassman is a steal especially if you can find one lightly used for under a grand. I love the fender blackface sound and tremolo too but one can remedy that with a E-H wiggler or the tremolo of their choice. I was very impressed with the overall tone of the new bassman. It just depends on the character you're looking for.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Take a look. Both the twin and orange can give you the variety your looking for.

    http://www.bassexchange.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=26_40_51
    WiLL75 wrote:
    A Bassman next to a Bassman just seems...right. But I'm thinking they would both sound similar, maybe harder to decipher which amp I'm going though, how much of a blend..etc. Or maybe since it is a '59 it would sound different enough from a '73?

    So that leaves the Orange and the Twin. What I'd want to do is have my 10 be the clean amp and the new one be dirty amp. Gain up all the way, natural OD sound...and blend between the two.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    WiLL75 wrote:
    A Bassman next to a Bassman just seems...right. But I'm thinking they would both sound similar, maybe harder to decipher which amp I'm going though, how much of a blend..etc. Or maybe since it is a '59 it would sound different enough from a '73?

    So that leaves the Orange and the Twin. What I'd want to do is have my 10 be the clean amp and the new one be dirty amp. Gain up all the way, natural OD sound...and blend between the two.




    completely different circuits. The bassman and twin are tweeds, the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.

    The tweeds are more loose and blusey.

    The orange is a different animal altoegther, certainly not a bad one to use as a the distorted amp. A completely different character from the bassman or the tweed. I love mine.

    you'll have to play and hear all 3 to really decide though. It's really honestly an amp character/pedal/guitar issue that no one can describe because you know in your head and heart the sound you're looking for. We can't answer that, but those 3 you picked, are really some nice amps and some of my current favorites. Hell you may see if you can't find a Matchless Lightning or something like that for your OD too, it's in a similar price range.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    completely different circuits. The bassman and twin are tweeds, the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.

    The tweeds are more loose and blusey.

    The orange is a different animal altoegther, certainly not a bad one to use as a the distorted amp. A completely different character from the bassman or the tweed. I love mine.

    you'll have to play and hear all 3 to really decide though. It's really honestly an amp character/pedal/guitar issue that no one can describe because you know in your head and heart the sound you're looking for. We can't answer that, but those 3 you picked, are really some nice amps and some of my current favorites. Hell you may see if you can't find a Matchless Lightning or something like that for your OD too, it's in a similar price range.

    paco, the 57 bassman, orange 4x10 w/head. Killer sound. Not mines but I played it.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    puremagic wrote:
    paco, the 57 bassman, orange 4x10 w/head. Killer sound. Not mines but I played it.


    you'll get no argument here. that setup is awesome. Loud and proud. That's a nice rig for sure.

    I love my Orange AD15/12 but I'd like it better with a 4x10 or 4x12 cabinet.
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    completely different circuits. The bassman and twin are tweeds, the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.

    The tweeds are more loose and blusey.

    The orange is a different animal altoegther, certainly not a bad one to use as a the distorted amp. A completely different character from the bassman or the tweed. I love mine.

    you'll have to play and hear all 3 to really decide though. It's really honestly an amp character/pedal/guitar issue that no one can describe because you know in your head and heart the sound you're looking for. We can't answer that, but those 3 you picked, are really some nice amps and some of my current favorites. Hell you may see if you can't find a Matchless Lightning or something like that for your OD too, it's in a similar price range.

    So you have the adr30? Hhmmm...maybe I need a THREE amp set up. ;)
    But running two bassman's in stereo...mmm. I mean, the reason I got my bassman ten was my guitar teacher. He has a blackface fender bassman through a 4x10 cab. I can't remember the year, but he bought it used in the late 60's early 70's. So I've always loved that clean tone because I can get distortion with pedals. I have a tele, strat, mustang, eventually an SG with P-90's...and really, isn't it fun to just talk about amps anyways? :)
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    WiLL75 wrote:
    So you have the adr30? Hhmmm...maybe I need a THREE amp set up. ;)
    But running two bassman's in stereo...mmm. I mean, the reason I got my bassman ten was my guitar teacher. He has a blackface fender bassman through a 4x10 cab. I can't remember the year, but he bought it used in the late 60's early 70's. So I've always loved that clean tone because I can get distortion with pedals. I have a tele, strat, mustang, eventually an SG with P-90's...and really, isn't it fun to just talk about amps anyways? :)


    yeah it's great fun,

    that's why I'm here and I have so many damn posts. It's embarrasing really.

    I have an AD15/12 reverb is outboard.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    If you are in the 1k or up price range for an amp you are nutz for buying anything from a major OEM. Check out Carr, Fargen, Allen, Top Hat, Bad Cat, Tone King, if you are really crazy like I am then check out Clark.
    You will only be disapointed by a RI Amp from Fender, Vox or Marshall. If you want vintage tweed or BF, then buy a clone from someone who has serviced the best.
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    Check em out.
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    yeah it's great fun,

    that's why I'm here and I have so many damn posts. It's embarrasing really.

    I have an AD15/12 reverb is outboard.

    I wouldn't say embarrasing. We're players, of course we drool and love to talk about amps, effects, guitars, etc.

    But I think the tweed bassman next to the '73 bassman would rule. If I didn't need both amps, I could use the new bassman more as it's newer...I could start babying the '73 a bit more.

    But first things first...Keeley Rat.

    Then hopefully the SG this spring/summer.
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  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    *cough* Victoria *cough*

    http://www.victoriaamp.com
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.


    Pre-CBS, CBS, and Post-CBS.

    The Bassman 10 is CBS.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Pre-CBS, CBS, and Post-CBS.

    The Bassman 10 is CBS.


    my appologies, you are correct, CBS.
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  • WiLL75WiLL75 Posts: 415
    If I had the cashish, this is yummy...

    http://www.victoriaamp.com/model45410.htm
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  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    WiLL75 wrote:
    If I had the cashish, this is yummy...

    http://www.victoriaamp.com/model45410.htm


    I have wet dreams about the Victorilux:

    http://www.victoriaamp.com/victoriette&victorilux.htm

    With 2 6L6's and 3 Jensen P10R's.
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  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    And forget the Fender Twin, get this instead:

    http://www.victoriaamp.com/model50212.htm
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    And forget the Fender Twin, get this instead:

    http://www.victoriaamp.com/model50212.htm



    yeah yeah. Victoria kicks ass.

    while we're talking about fender clones we should probably mention the Dr Z Z28 and Kendrick amps as well.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    yeah yeah. Victoria kicks ass.

    while we're talking about fender clones we should probably mention the Dr Z Z28 and Kendrick amps as well.

    Dr Z for sure, never heard the Kendrick. They look like a tweed.
    Clark is still the best.
    2950 for a Belmont with an attenuator. 40 Watt 6L6 dead on Super Reverb, its a clone of his best past work.
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  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    JofZ wrote:
    There are so many boutique amps now, its almost silly to buy a fender or marshall.


    Assuming you have the cash...

    I'll agree that Bogner does Marshall better than Marshall, and Victoria does Fender better than Fender, but we can't all afford $2500 amps. A silverface Bassman still goes for around $300, sounds good, and is built like a tank.

    Also, the NEW '59 Bassman reissue and the '57 Twin reissue are damned nice amps, built very well, and certainly worth the money.
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  • All Those YesterdaysAll Those Yesterdays Posts: 2,723
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Assuming you have the cash...

    I'll agree that Bogner does Marshall better than Marshall, and Victoria does Fender better than Fender, but we can't all afford $2500 amps. A silverface Bassman still goes for around $300, sounds good, and is built like a tank.

    Also, the NEW '59 Bassman reissue and the '57 Twin reissue are damned nice amps, built very well, and certainly worth the money.

    Thats the first thing I thought when reading the original post. A used Silverface for $300 (sometimes they go for less too!) on top of a used 4-12 or 2-12 (prefferable a 4-12 Marshall) is a way better way, and you save some bucks. You might have enought saved from that to go buy a used spring reverb unit.

    Then there is always an old Twin with a master volume, get those for under a grand. There is one sitting at my friends studio that is just killer, slap a tube screamer in front of it for a little extra "ooh".

    Of course a little Gibson Minute Man sounds like a million bucks too and you can find those for $200. But thats in another league.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    JofZ wrote:
    Dr Z for sure, never heard the Kendrick. They look like a tweed.
    Clark is still the best.
    2950 for a Belmont with an attenuator. 40 Watt 6L6 dead on Super Reverb, its a clone of his best past work.
    There are so many boutique amps now, its almost silly to buy a fender or marshall. There are some great buys out there to.Belmont
    ™
    Thirty five watt, two ten combo, "electric era" circuitry. Single channel with volume, bass, middle, treble, reverb, speed, and depth controls. Tube compliment is one current manufacture 5AR4, two 6L6 TAD, 12AX7's LPS, and 12AT7's eh. Features two Eminence custom C10N style 10" ceramic magnet speakers. This amp is set up with front control panel. Includes dual foot-switch for Reverb and Vibrato. Cabinet cosmetics black tolex with oxblood grill cloth.

    yeah clark is right there too.

    I saw a guy named Sean Costello rip it up the other night with only a little Kendrick (tweed vibrolux style amp) a fulltone tremolo a Fender ES-346 and a Les Paul Gold Top with P-90's. The tone was outstanding.


    For anyone wanting to check out clark, the gainster or any of his amps, here is the website.

    http://www.clarkamplification.com/
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Assuming you have the cash...

    I'll agree that Bogner does Marshall better than Marshall, and Victoria does Fender better than Fender, but we can't all afford $2500 amps. A silverface Bassman still goes for around $300, sounds good, and is built like a tank.

    Also, the NEW '59 Bassman reissue and the '57 Twin reissue are damned nice amps, built very well, and certainly worth the money.

    Not every boutice amp is over 1K, Reverend Kingsnake is under 700 and does nice Fender cleans, plus the used market on boutique amps always has nice buys.
    I agree a 70's silverface is a great buy with awesome potential. Old Supro's, Ampegs as well.
    I just wouldn't buy a Marshall RI for 1800 bones or a Fender RI when you can get better tone for the same money.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    yeah clark is right there too.

    I saw a guy named Sean Costello rip it up the other night with only a little Kendrick (tweed vibrolux style amp) a fulltone tremolo a Fender ES-346 and a Les Paul Gold Top with P-90's. The tone was outstanding.


    For anyone wanting to check out clark, the gainster or any of his amps, here is the website.

    http://www.clarkamplification.com/

    Clark is probably the best out there, 10 year transferable warranty, beat that!
    Any option under the sun, and dead on SRV, to the point that people are posting warnings about how dead on the tone is to SRV.

    I agree 2600 is a ton of dough, but any high end amp is in the same dollar range. The Fargen is probably the best bargin out there IMO.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    JofZ wrote:
    Clark is probably the best out there, 10 year transferable warranty, beat that!
    Any option under the sun, and dead on SRV, to the point that people are posting warnings about how dead on the tone is to SRV.

    I agree 2600 is a ton of dough, but any high end amp is in the same dollar range. The Fargen is probably the best bargin out there IMO.


    Fargen seems to have nailed the Plexi sound in the mini and mighty plex's.

    I'd like to spend an hour or so infront of a Germino but yeah, that's in the 2.5K range too.

    Hey at least we aren't shopping Dumble Overdrive Specials.
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