My GAS for YesterToday

WiLL75

I tried to post three links yesterday...I will try again now. Three links to three different amps. One of them WILL be my second amp, oh yes, it wiiillll beeee.

WiLL75

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/480865/

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/480726/

WiLL75

And the last link.....

http://www.orangeamps.com/products/ad_series_ad30r.html

Pacomc79

Awesome.

Awesome

and

Awesome

it depends on what you like best.

I adore that new bassman I obviously love orange, and if it weren't $2,100 I'd think a lot more of the Twin. That twin is fantastic, but at $2,100 I can't justify it.

The new bassman is phenominal.

WiLL75

So you're saying any of those would look good next to my bassman 10?
I agree. Yeah, the twin would be nice but so out of my price range now.

Pacomc79

WiLL75 wrote:

So you're saying any of those would look good next to my bassman 10?
I agree. Yeah, the twin would be nice but so out of my price range now.

anyone would be fine, you need to determine the character you want.

the AD30 is obviously chimey and wooley as all british EL-84 amps are. The V30's are great. The reverb is full and rich Overdrive is almost a fuzz with the gain up loud, however with the gain turned down and significant volume boosts cascaded into the front end it's heaven.

The Bassman is all tweed, full, loose, loud, overdrive is bassy but loose (6L6's) fullness to die for. Fantastic with single coils, extremely fat with P-90's. It really shows off your guitar and the various pickups, you know what position you are in and how hot each respective pickup is as well as how bright the wood in your guitar is or is not.

Don't write off the new twin obviously as it is incredible I just can't justify 2,100 for it. Lots of tricks with that amp like channel jumping and taking out one of the rectifiers to adjust the compression level. In the hands of a master, it is a masterful amplifier.

WiLL75

A Bassman next to a Bassman just seems...right. But I'm thinking they would both sound similar, maybe harder to decipher which amp I'm going though, how much of a blend..etc. Or maybe since it is a '59 it would sound different enough from a '73?

So that leaves the Orange and the Twin. What I'd want to do is have my 10 be the clean amp and the new one be dirty amp. Gain up all the way, natural OD sound...and blend between the two.

WiLL75

So I'm thinking you've played through that '59 bassman?

Pacomc79

WiLL75 wrote:

So I'm thinking you've played through that '59 bassman?

yeah, and the twin too. I listened to a new twin for about 2 hours with the guy playing a fairly hot telecaster a strat and then a very hot telecaster and I've put around 45 minutes on the new 59 lacquered tweed bassman with a variety of guitars. The little tweaks made by the custom shop and the new groove tubes are very good.

I think the new bassman is a steal especially if you can find one lightly used for under a grand. I love the fender blackface sound and tremolo too but one can remedy that with a E-H wiggler or the tremolo of their choice. I was very impressed with the overall tone of the new bassman. It just depends on the character you're looking for.

puremagic

Take a look. Both the twin and orange can give you the variety your looking for.

http://www.bassexchange.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=26_40_51

WiLL75 wrote:

A Bassman next to a Bassman just seems...right. But I'm thinking they would both sound similar, maybe harder to decipher which amp I'm going though, how much of a blend..etc. Or maybe since it is a '59 it would sound different enough from a '73?

So that leaves the Orange and the Twin. What I'd want to do is have my 10 be the clean amp and the new one be dirty amp. Gain up all the way, natural OD sound...and blend between the two.

Pacomc79

WiLL75 wrote:

A Bassman next to a Bassman just seems...right. But I'm thinking they would both sound similar, maybe harder to decipher which amp I'm going though, how much of a blend..etc. Or maybe since it is a '59 it would sound different enough from a '73?

So that leaves the Orange and the Twin. What I'd want to do is have my 10 be the clean amp and the new one be dirty amp. Gain up all the way, natural OD sound...and blend between the two.

completely different circuits. The bassman and twin are tweeds, the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.

The tweeds are more loose and blusey.

The orange is a different animal altoegther, certainly not a bad one to use as a the distorted amp. A completely different character from the bassman or the tweed. I love mine.

you'll have to play and hear all 3 to really decide though. It's really honestly an amp character/pedal/guitar issue that no one can describe because you know in your head and heart the sound you're looking for. We can't answer that, but those 3 you picked, are really some nice amps and some of my current favorites. Hell you may see if you can't find a Matchless Lightning or something like that for your OD too, it's in a similar price range.

puremagic

Pacomc79 wrote:

completely different circuits. The bassman and twin are tweeds, the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.

The tweeds are more loose and blusey.

The orange is a different animal altoegther, certainly not a bad one to use as a the distorted amp. A completely different character from the bassman or the tweed. I love mine.

you'll have to play and hear all 3 to really decide though. It's really honestly an amp character/pedal/guitar issue that no one can describe because you know in your head and heart the sound you're looking for. We can't answer that, but those 3 you picked, are really some nice amps and some of my current favorites. Hell you may see if you can't find a Matchless Lightning or something like that for your OD too, it's in a similar price range.

paco, the 57 bassman, orange 4x10 w/head. Killer sound. Not mines but I played it.

Pacomc79

puremagic wrote:

paco, the 57 bassman, orange 4x10 w/head. Killer sound. Not mines but I played it.

you'll get no argument here. that setup is awesome. Loud and proud. That's a nice rig for sure.

I love my Orange AD15/12 but I'd like it better with a 4x10 or 4x12 cabinet.

WiLL75

Pacomc79 wrote:

completely different circuits. The bassman and twin are tweeds, the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.

The tweeds are more loose and blusey.

The orange is a different animal altoegther, certainly not a bad one to use as a the distorted amp. A completely different character from the bassman or the tweed. I love mine.

you'll have to play and hear all 3 to really decide though. It's really honestly an amp character/pedal/guitar issue that no one can describe because you know in your head and heart the sound you're looking for. We can't answer that, but those 3 you picked, are really some nice amps and some of my current favorites. Hell you may see if you can't find a Matchless Lightning or something like that for your OD too, it's in a similar price range.

So you have the adr30? Hhmmm...maybe I need a THREE amp set up.
But running two bassman's in stereo...mmm. I mean, the reason I got my bassman ten was my guitar teacher. He has a blackface fender bassman through a 4x10 cab. I can't remember the year, but he bought it used in the late 60's early 70's. So I've always loved that clean tone because I can get distortion with pedals. I have a tele, strat, mustang, eventually an SG with P-90's...and really, isn't it fun to just talk about amps anyways?

Pacomc79

WiLL75 wrote:

So you have the adr30? Hhmmm...maybe I need a THREE amp set up.
But running two bassman's in stereo...mmm. I mean, the reason I got my bassman ten was my guitar teacher. He has a blackface fender bassman through a 4x10 cab. I can't remember the year, but he bought it used in the late 60's early 70's. So I've always loved that clean tone because I can get distortion with pedals. I have a tele, strat, mustang, eventually an SG with P-90's...and really, isn't it fun to just talk about amps anyways?

yeah it's great fun,

that's why I'm here and I have so many damn posts. It's embarrasing really.

I have an AD15/12 reverb is outboard.

JofZ

If you are in the 1k or up price range for an amp you are nutz for buying anything from a major OEM. Check out Carr, Fargen, Allen, Top Hat, Bad Cat, Tone King, if you are really crazy like I am then check out Clark.
You will only be disapointed by a RI Amp from Fender, Vox or Marshall. If you want vintage tweed or BF, then buy a clone from someone who has serviced the best.
Fargen Blackbird come to papa, Carr Rambler come to papa, Clark Belmont ooooooooohhhhhhh yeah!
I wouldn't buy a vintage amp even if it was the best a dealer had seen, the guys above will make an amp with the tone of the best of the best.
Check em out.
Anyone want a 1 year old F30? Its going on Ebay.

WiLL75

Pacomc79 wrote:

yeah it's great fun,

that's why I'm here and I have so many damn posts. It's embarrasing really.

I have an AD15/12 reverb is outboard.

I wouldn't say embarrasing. We're players, of course we drool and love to talk about amps, effects, guitars, etc.

But I think the tweed bassman next to the '73 bassman would rule. If I didn't need both amps, I could use the new bassman more as it's newer...I could start babying the '73 a bit more.

But first things first...Keeley Rat.

Then hopefully the SG this spring/summer.

mccreadyisgod

*cough* Victoria *cough*

http://www.victoriaamp.com

mccreadyisgod

Pacomc79 wrote:

the 73 is post CBS meaning it's very clean and bright as a general rule.

Pre-CBS, CBS, and Post-CBS.

The Bassman 10 is CBS.

Pacomc79

mccreadyisgod wrote:

Pre-CBS, CBS, and Post-CBS.

The Bassman 10 is CBS.

my appologies, you are correct, CBS.

WiLL75

If I had the cashish, this is yummy...

http://www.victoriaamp.com/model45410.htm