orange amps

MissYouAllDay

So what is the big deal with these amps. I hear their amazing but why? What kinda orange amp goes for 800-1000 american.

How do they compare to the combo mesa amps?

exhausted

classic british sound amps. the only one i that price range is the AD15 currently though there have be AD5 and AD10s in the past.

how do they compare? hard to say. sound wise they're very different.

Pacomc79

I wouldn't give them an amazing moniker, but they are very well made excellent sounding amps especially the custom shop models and their brethren Matamp.

Orange provide a specific tone, very british. Chimey classic rock tones. Lovely clean clear crisp tone with outstanding overdrive.

Mesas are also a specific tone, (Californian or American)


I reserve amazing for the best amps I've ever heard like the Diezel VH4S and the BJF Mad Professors then again they are $4,000

Oranges are quite different than Marshalls as much so as Mesas are different than either.

Orange and Vox are fairly similar in their EL84 equipped amps.

AD 15/30 AC15/30 respectively.


Orange is known for their wonderful strong toneful speaker cabinets and heads with lots of clean power and muscle.

There is no better or worse once you reach a certain plateau only different tones.

I know I love My AD 15/12

MissYouAllDay

Why the hell does a 15 watt orange amp cost the same amount as a 50 watt mesa boogie with 2 channels.

Do these people have horrible production values?

It just seems wrong? Are their covers made of endagered rhino skin?

exhausted

bah. nevermind.

Pacomc79

Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
Why the hell does a 15 watt orange amp cost the same amount as a 50 watt mesa boogie with 2 channels.

Do these people have horrible production values?

It just seems wrong? Are their covers made of endagered rhino skin?

you're equating volume with value, it's not done that way.

You are purchasing a tone. The beauty of a 15 watt all tube tube rectified simplistic non reverb amp is that they spend all the money on components.

It has everything you need, and nothing you don't. There is a huge market for single channel low wattage all tube amps especially for recording.

For one a 50 watt (RMS) tube amp is very very loud.

A 15 watt amp can get a full soak overdriven tone at substantially less volume so it works better in a smaller club. There is no reverb to clutter or muddy the tone. They equip it with very good quality EI tubes a Celestion Vintage 30 and nice components throughout.

Once you get to a certain level you purchase amps based on need.

Some people just want the best little 15 watt amp with the sweetest tone they can buy, run a strat through an orange and see what you think. Also they accept pedals well.

Again there's no right or wrong you are buying "tone" and tone is subjective.


Original guitar amps were very simple handwired beasts with only volume and some sort of basic tone shaping. Guitarists (Pete Townsend for one) found that if they turned them up all the way they distorted. I believe it was Jim Marshall who first added the Master Volume to a tube amp. So people looking for a classic sound look for simplicity.

The Mesa F series is an outstanding value but the Orange fits what I'm looking for better at the moment.

exhausted

Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
Why the hell does a 15 watt orange amp cost the same amount as a 50 watt mesa boogie with 2 channels.

Do these people have horrible production values?

It just seems wrong? Are their covers made of endagered rhino skin?

until you play through an orange, you won't understand.

MissYouAllDay

Well I am considering the orange 15 watt amp as well. I really like the idea that it accepts pedals well.

hey paco is there anyway you feel like recording a litle bit of clean strat into orange and posting it?

Pacomc79

Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
Well I am considering the orange 15 watt amp as well. I really like the idea that it accepts pedals well.

hey paco is there anyway you feel like recording a litle bit of clean strat into orange and posting it?

I'd love to I just have no host for it at the moment.

I could probably e-mail you something.

To be honest I think you are better off with the F-50. It's more versatile with the music you play and like I think it would still be the best fit for you. It sounds awesome and can achieve a wider range of tones. Everyone I've met with an F-50 loved it. Don't abandon it yet.

Speaking of which did you see Jack White at the Grammy's?

I thought it was an excellent performance.

mccreadyisgod

Ah, the age-old question: To have one amp with one great sound, or an amp with a few good sounds?

I prefer the one great sound... and I still haven't found it, but the amps I have, I'm pretty happy with. I certainly don't go for the "standard" tones... I try to get a combination that is uniquely mine. And I'm not the first to look for the tone I want (P-90's into a Bassman? Dime a dozen) but still, I'm not an "LP into a cranked Marshall" guy, either.

MissYouAllDay

I can't believe how amazing it was. He went nuts at the end. Especially in the middle of such a comercialized piece of shit with so much production and phonyness...all that bad assness just was twice as wicked. I enjoyed it thouroughly.
I would like to see jack white and Chad Kroeger fight to the death.

Man seriosuly how can any respectful music fan hate jack white?

saving rock and roll 1 shitty ass corporate show at a time....

ps.

hear the right up in that paper about the performance?

and don't worry F-50 i9s still #1. I just had to look into orange cause they are so hyped and alot of great artists use them.

mccreadyisgod

Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
and don't worry F-50 i9s still #1. I just had to look into orange cause they are so hyped and alot of great artists use them.

I'll say one thing...

Orange CABINETS are the bomb. Now if they'll just build a MIG custom signature 4x10" cabinet...

goto_l

Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
So what is the big deal with these amps. I hear their amazing but why? What kinda orange amp goes for 800-1000 american.

How do they compare to the combo mesa amps?

Are you Overseas, as in Europe, ????

MissYouAllDay

I'm not.

BTW I'm goin to florida this week.

Pacomc79

Originally posted by MissYouAllDay
I'm not.

BTW I'm goin to florida this week.

Have fun in New Jersey South.

MissYouAllDay

New Jersey south eh?

I have never been further south than chicago myself.

Pacomc79

While in Florida take note of the number of New Jersey tags you see. It's like Mecca for New Jersey natives.

WiLL75

Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
Ah, the age-old question: To have one amp with one great sound, or an amp with a few good sounds?

I prefer the one great sound... and I still haven't found it, but the amps I have, I'm pretty happy with. I certainly don't go for the "standard" tones... I try to get a combination that is uniquely mine. And I'm not the first to look for the tone I want (P-90's into a Bassman? Dime a dozen) but still, I'm not an "LP into a cranked Marshall" guy, either.

That reminds me, I still want to get an Orange combo...it'd have to be the 30watt...and run it with my bassman. That's my affordable dream.

Another combo would be a blackface bassman head with an orange 4x12 cab...running with an orange head and cab. blend the two with my volume/pan pedal...

I change my mind a lot. But it's fun thinking about amp combos.

mccreadyisgod

I played through an AD-30R this weekend, and it was everything it could've been. Very nice, very balanced... great overdrive, great reverb, great EQ. The speakers were Celestion V30's, so nothing to complain about there. I still want an Orange 4x10 guitar cab, but hey, what can you do. The amp was about the perfect size and wattage, could crank it without ears bleeding... but the clean tone was also VERY nice. Dial in a good tone clean, or maybe just a BIT dirty, and add a Tubescreamer... very nice...

They had an AD-30 head, I wanted to plunk down some cash and run. Damn GAS!

Pacomc79

Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
I played through an AD-30R this weekend, and it was everything it could've been. Very nice, very balanced... great overdrive, great reverb, great EQ. The speakers were Celestion V30's, so nothing to complain about there. I still want an Orange 4x10 guitar cab, but hey, what can you do. The amp was about the perfect size and wattage, could crank it without ears bleeding... but the clean tone was also VERY nice. Dial in a good tone clean, or maybe just a BIT dirty, and add a Tubescreamer... very nice...

They had an AD-30 head, I wanted to plunk down some cash and run. Damn GAS!

Told you.....where'd you find one?

House53

they just started carrying Orange amps and cabs at the shop I go to... they sure look cool...

I still would take a Dr. Z, they are about the same price point... My new GAS case is to get a Ghia combo with a bluedog speaker... in blonde tolex... with the Vox diamond grille.

That or a black one with a wheat grille and a silver or gold Z on the front.