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Scoot82Scoot82 Posts: 78
edited February 2004 in Musicians and Gearheads
Approximately how much wattage do you need in a tube ampt in order to play a small gig. Is 80 watts too much, would i be able to ever use that to practice on or no? thanks
Well, it's one louder, isn't it?
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    Elderly ManElderly Man Posts: 235
    80 watts is more than enough
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    who's_pearljam?who's_pearljam? Posts: 2,104
    Originally posted by Scoot82
    Approximately how much wattage do you need in a tube ampt in order to play a small gig. Is 80 watts too much, would i be able to ever use that to practice on or no? thanks

    80 watts is a lot. It really depends on what you're playing, how big the room, and if they are miking the amp into the PA.
    If you are playing clean with no distortion, and the amp isn't miked, 80 watts is cool and probably way more than enough. If you want to crank the thing, 80 will usually be way too much and will break the windows and beer mugs! A 22 watt deluxe, or other small amp should be fine, and better in practice.
    Probably the only time you'll ever get to wind up a big amp, like 80 to 100 watts would be in a 2000 + seat venue, but even then, the sound guy will mike a small one and can make it sound as big , or bigger than a 100 watter.
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    Scoot82Scoot82 Posts: 78
    awesome, thanks for the input it helps a lot
    Well, it's one louder, isn't it?
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    mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    In my opinion, 20-50 watts is plenty. Anything more than that is gravy. But you can get better saturation at reasonable volumes out of a lower-wattage amp, so I prefer that. You can always attenuate (like a Weber MASS, a Power Brake, a Hot Plate, etc), but that's another piece of gear you don't need. And if you're going to attenuate all the time, why not get a smaller amp? Anyways...

    80 watts would be acceptable, but you'll never use the full capacity of that (unless you're in a VERY loud, obnoxious band). Keep in mind that the Trentino amps Stone and Mike are using are both like 30 watts, and Ed uses a 50-watt Hiwatt that's probably too big, anyways. And Mike and Stone both have been using 50-watt or smaller amps for about a decade. And my FAVORITE example here, is Ani DiFranco... she plays arenas and stadiums and very large places like that, she has a 50-watt Rivera amp for stage volume, but also has a parallel line to a Fender Pro Junior, which is like 10 watts... and that is her PA rig, that's the amp they mic. And it sounds great! But for un-mic'd gigs, I'd recommend 20-50 watts.
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    HoorayForHumansHoorayForHumans Posts: 151
    yeah.. 80 watts is way more than enough for a small gig..
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    Scoot82Scoot82 Posts: 78
    ok cool, what do you guys recommned then in the 20-30 tube amp range for rock music (PJ style, classic rock, some blues)?
    Well, it's one louder, isn't it?
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    Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by Scoot82
    ok cool, what do you guys recommned then in the 20-30 tube amp range for rock music (PJ style, classic rock, some blues)?


    Depending on your price range. Some of my favorites for blues playing.

    Peavy, Delta Blues 2x10

    Peavy, Classic 50

    Fender HR Deluxe. Fender 65 Deluxe RI

    Fender Bassman. Fender HR Deville. Fender Super Reverb

    Fender Vibrolux etc. Fender Vibrochamp

    Any Fender built from 1964-67

    Vox AC 15 Vox AC 30

    Matamp (anything in the wattage value)

    Orange AD 15

    Orange AD 30

    Orange AD 30 TC

    Rivera Chubster

    Mesa F-30 F-50 heartbreaker, nomad, maverick, "Blue Angel" Mark 1 Mark IV

    Dr Z, Maz 18 Jr, Dr Z Mazerati, DR Z KT 45, Route 66 (Ok DR Z anything!)

    Matchless, Lightning, Clubman......yeah matchless anything


    Hiwatt DC40 Bulldog.

    Bogner- anything

    Germino- anything.

    Ok that's all I can think of for now.
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    Scoot82Scoot82 Posts: 78
    wow, thats a lot of amps...can all these also handle rock music as well as blues?
    Well, it's one louder, isn't it?
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    Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by Scoot82
    wow, thats a lot of amps...can all these also handle rock music as well as blues?



    yes, they are all equally fine for Rock or Blues.
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    jodijodi Posts: 183
    think 80 watts is enough.. i have 35 at home, my friend 50..
    they are both very loud.. so i think 80 is plenty..
    now you can finally play with every the volume right open ;)
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    Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    check out http://www.fatsoundguitars.com and browse around. They have a nice used section as well.
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