The Official 2026 Tour Rumor Thread

gotthebottle

I mean maybe they aren't focused on touring right now

drfox

Weston1283 said:

It's sort of hard to believe that in an 18 month stretch.... we have gone from their best album in 20 years (Dark Matter) and all of the surrounding hype - to now to a drummer-less band that to me, feels more dead than it has in my 15-20 years of following them.

I agree with you. But hope we get some positive activity in the next month. 

on2legs

Z 

Lost In Ohio

gotthebottle said:

There's more important shit going on right now than bands touring...

this takes me away from that stuff 

Exactly!

Besides, a lot of people have the ability to focus on a few things at once. It's comments like "there's more important stuff" that strongly imply that the band shouldn't tour at all until everything "more important" gets figured out. If that happened, they'd never tour.

pjhawks

Get_Right said:

IF they go back on the road in 2026, it will include a festival. The money is too big. I do not think PJ would go over well as the super bowl halftime show. Its rare they have a pure rock band perform. Not enough flash for the NFL. Petty and Springsteen are exceptions because they both cross over to a pop audience.  

Rumor is Metallica this year.

Haijay

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

Haijay

TN49724 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

I really hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Ed has played a ton of private, Corporate “knob-shining” events over the years.  Anyone who has convinced themselves that the band is above this is way out of touch.  I have absolutely nothing against them doing this, but don’t kid yourselves into believing they stand on some moral high ground. 

Big deal, Ed has sat down with an acoustic and played 5 songs for Oracle, Amazon?, and a few others. ALL for charity, or favours to friends. Hardly comparable to the Super Bowl at all. 

And, these “gigs” had zero to do with the band🤷‍♂️

kmcmanus

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

The Chili Peppers are much bigger than PJ at this point. They were even bigger than now when they appeared at the SB in 2014…as guests of Bruno Mars for a snippet in a medley. 

PJ is absolutely not big enough to get the gig at this point. Which is fine, I’m not sure it’s a great match anyway. But whether they’d say yes is irrelevant, they are nowhere near the tier of popularity that gets invited.

KJ228171

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

40%? You are using your own bias and projecting it on a populous. That’s delusional. If they were that popular they would be playing stadiums. There is a reason that their only “big” shows are at ball parks in Chicago and Boston. They could do a national tour of then but know it’s not going to sell out. I mean the Lumineers played amphitheaters, ball parks and stadiums this year. Would PJ be able to do that tour (as a hypothetical)?If you ask a random 50 year old about Pearl Jam you are more likely to get a “They still around” than “I love them.” 

Their popularity (or lack of) and opinions of ours doesn’t diminish our love of the band but our feeling aren’t reflected in the larger population. 

Also using your data, if they are already watching, the half time show would be used to drum up interest in younger demos that aren’t watching. You don’t market to an audience you already have. You market to new audiences.

Haijay

kmcmanus said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

The Chili Peppers are much bigger than PJ at this point. They were even bigger than now when they appeared at the SB in 2014…as guests of Bruno Mars for a snippet in a medley. 

PJ is absolutely not big enough to get the gig at this point. Which is fine, I’m not sure it’s a great match anyway. But whether they’d say yes is irrelevant, they are nowhere near the tier of popularity that gets invited.

Having a quick look at the performers since 2000, i would prefer PJ to stay as far away from it as possible. With a few exception 00-10.  So, its all good, that is NOT their scene. 

One silly tidbit. About 15 years ago there was a poll on Vancouver Island radio about who people most wanted to perform. PJ won by a landslide. And ya, there was prob only 37 votes, but STILL😂😂

Haijay

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

40%? You are using your own bias and projecting it on a populous. That’s delusional. If they were that popular they would be playing stadiums. There is a reason that their only “big” shows are at ball parks in Chicago and Boston. They could do a national tour of then but know it’s not going to sell out. I mean the Lumineers played amphitheaters, ball parks and stadiums this year. Would PJ be able to do that tour (as a hypothetical)?If you ask a random 50 year old about Pearl Jam you are more likely to get a “They still around” than “I love them.” 

Their popularity (or lack of) and opinions of ours doesn’t diminish our love of the band but our feeling aren’t reflected in the larger population. 

Also using your data, if they are already watching, the half time show would be used to drum up interest in younger demos that aren’t watching. You don’t market to an audience you already have. You market to new audiences.

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. So the peeps said “it was only because of the lack of shows around then”. 2016 comes, and bang, in the midst of a lot more shows, all four shows sold out quick. 2018, again, all 7 stadium shows sold out instantly. So, people then said “well, its only because theres only 7 shows. Fine, but what if there were 2 more in New York, 2 more in Philly, 2 more in Atlanta, 2 more in LA, 2 in Miami, 2 in Texas? All ballparks. Now you’re pushing 20 stadium shows, and they absolutely would have been sold out. Of course they would, you gotta know that.

I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

As far as the Lumineers thing, you dont think PJ could pull THAT tour off? PJ would sell-out everyone of those gigs. The Lumineers sure didnt

marumaruko

Haijay said:

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. 


I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

I’d rather say their popularity is being a bit overstated here. 

Did Wrigley really sell out? I thought consensus was that there were plenty of available tickets on the day of the show, but could be wrong. However, together with Fenway it made for the only stadium gigs they played.. 

Re: Europe — almost every mid- to bigger-name artist can sell out the Waldbühne (that’s probably the one you meant). Some even manage two shows in a row. Pearl Jam didn’t. 

Maybe next time they can try Wuhlheide. Bit smaller, equally beautiful. In any case looking at recent touring schedules they didn't do European fans many favours. That won't be making it easier in the future. 

KJ228171

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

40%? You are using your own bias and projecting it on a populous. That’s delusional. If they were that popular they would be playing stadiums. There is a reason that their only “big” shows are at ball parks in Chicago and Boston. They could do a national tour of then but know it’s not going to sell out. I mean the Lumineers played amphitheaters, ball parks and stadiums this year. Would PJ be able to do that tour (as a hypothetical)?If you ask a random 50 year old about Pearl Jam you are more likely to get a “They still around” than “I love them.” 

Their popularity (or lack of) and opinions of ours doesn’t diminish our love of the band but our feeling aren’t reflected in the larger population. 

Also using your data, if they are already watching, the half time show would be used to drum up interest in younger demos that aren’t watching. You don’t market to an audience you already have. You market to new audiences.

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. So the peeps said “it was only because of the lack of shows around then”. 2016 comes, and bang, in the midst of a lot more shows, all four shows sold out quick. 2018, again, all 7 stadium shows sold out instantly. So, people then said “well, its only because theres only 7 shows. Fine, but what if there were 2 more in New York, 2 more in Philly, 2 more in Atlanta, 2 more in LA, 2 in Miami, 2 in Texas? All ballparks. Now you’re pushing 20 stadium shows, and they absolutely would have been sold out. Of course they would, you gotta know that.

I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

As far as the Lumineers thing, you dont think PJ could pull THAT tour off? PJ would sell-out everyone of those gigs. The Lumineers sure didnt

Buddy several of the west coast Dark Matter shows had plenty of tickets available the day of.

mcgruff10

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

40%? You are using your own bias and projecting it on a populous. That’s delusional. If they were that popular they would be playing stadiums. There is a reason that their only “big” shows are at ball parks in Chicago and Boston. They could do a national tour of then but know it’s not going to sell out. I mean the Lumineers played amphitheaters, ball parks and stadiums this year. Would PJ be able to do that tour (as a hypothetical)?If you ask a random 50 year old about Pearl Jam you are more likely to get a “They still around” than “I love them.” 

Their popularity (or lack of) and opinions of ours doesn’t diminish our love of the band but our feeling aren’t reflected in the larger population. 

Also using your data, if they are already watching, the half time show would be used to drum up interest in younger demos that aren’t watching. You don’t market to an audience you already have. You market to new audiences.

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. So the peeps said “it was only because of the lack of shows around then”. 2016 comes, and bang, in the midst of a lot more shows, all four shows sold out quick. 2018, again, all 7 stadium shows sold out instantly. So, people then said “well, its only because theres only 7 shows. Fine, but what if there were 2 more in New York, 2 more in Philly, 2 more in Atlanta, 2 more in LA, 2 in Miami, 2 in Texas? All ballparks. Now you’re pushing 20 stadium shows, and they absolutely would have been sold out. Of course they would, you gotta know that.

I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

As far as the Lumineers thing, you dont think PJ could pull THAT tour off? PJ would sell-out everyone of those gigs. The Lumineers sure didnt

Buddy several of the west coast Dark Matter shows had plenty of tickets available the day of.

Fresno doesn't count.  And doesn't pretty much every band have tickets available day of?

KJ228171

mcgruff10 said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

40%? You are using your own bias and projecting it on a populous. That’s delusional. If they were that popular they would be playing stadiums. There is a reason that their only “big” shows are at ball parks in Chicago and Boston. They could do a national tour of then but know it’s not going to sell out. I mean the Lumineers played amphitheaters, ball parks and stadiums this year. Would PJ be able to do that tour (as a hypothetical)?If you ask a random 50 year old about Pearl Jam you are more likely to get a “They still around” than “I love them.” 

Their popularity (or lack of) and opinions of ours doesn’t diminish our love of the band but our feeling aren’t reflected in the larger population. 

Also using your data, if they are already watching, the half time show would be used to drum up interest in younger demos that aren’t watching. You don’t market to an audience you already have. You market to new audiences.

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. So the peeps said “it was only because of the lack of shows around then”. 2016 comes, and bang, in the midst of a lot more shows, all four shows sold out quick. 2018, again, all 7 stadium shows sold out instantly. So, people then said “well, its only because theres only 7 shows. Fine, but what if there were 2 more in New York, 2 more in Philly, 2 more in Atlanta, 2 more in LA, 2 in Miami, 2 in Texas? All ballparks. Now you’re pushing 20 stadium shows, and they absolutely would have been sold out. Of course they would, you gotta know that.

I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

As far as the Lumineers thing, you dont think PJ could pull THAT tour off? PJ would sell-out everyone of those gigs. The Lumineers sure didnt

Buddy several of the west coast Dark Matter shows had plenty of tickets available the day of.

Fresno doesn't count.  And doesn't pretty much every band have tickets available day of?

Yes but not huge blocks like we saw. That either means there is a demand issue or someone screwed up with holdbacks. For PJ it was both I think. 

Over the weekend, after the production drops, there were at least 1000-1200 seats released for Oasis at MetLife. Rows and rows of prime seats on the lower level from middle field toward the stage, same for club level seats on both sides. Just fantastic seats. Many better than the one I had. Listed at the standard price for the day before and $100 less day of. These shows were sold out for ten and a half months. F2F started three weeks ago. People would have killed to buy those during the sale last year so this was a case of someone screwing up.

Haijay

marumaruko said:

Haijay said:

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. 


I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

I’d rather say their popularity is being a bit overstated here. 

Did Wrigley really sell out? I thought consensus was that there were plenty of available tickets on the day of the show, but could be wrong. However, together with Fenway it made for the only stadium gigs they played.. 

Re: Europe — almost every mid- to bigger-name artist can sell out the Waldbühne (that’s probably the one you meant). Some even manage two shows in a row. Pearl Jam didn’t. 

Maybe next time they can try Wuhlheide. Bit smaller, equally beautiful. In any case looking at recent touring schedules they didn't do European fans many favours. That won't be making it easier in the future. 

marumaruko said:

Haijay said:

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. 


I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

I’d rather say their popularity is being a bit overstated here. 

Did Wrigley really sell out? I thought consensus was that there were plenty of available tickets on the day of the show, but could be wrong. However, together with Fenway it made for the only stadium gigs they played.. 

Re: Europe — almost every mid- to bigger-name artist can sell out the Waldbühne (that’s probably the one you meant). Some even manage two shows in a row. Pearl Jam didn’t. 

Maybe next time they can try Wuhlheide. Bit smaller, equally beautiful. In any case looking at recent touring schedules they didn't do European fans many favours. That won't be making it easier in the future. 

Every concert has tickets available, especially with the new system. And every concert i go to, i see empty seats in rows. Sometimes two, sometimes 6. That is not a Pearl jam thing. 

PJ fooked up with their ticket prices in Europe, i hope they learned a lesson. They and Hosier were the only ones to sell out Marlay in ‘24 though. I think a week away, those two Waldbuhne shows were within 3000-5000 from sold out, and probably would've got close to sell outs, since prices dropped a bit

  

Haijay

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

KJ228171 said:

Haijay said:

You people are out to lunch. The Super Bowl is an American event, Pearl Jam are a HUGE American band. Hilarious  
Pearl Jam has too much integrity to play that corporate knob-shining shit show. They would NEVER lower themselves to not playing live and/or lip synching. But, dont kid yourselves, they are most certainly big enough to play it, ffs

They aren’t big enough to anchor a Super Bowl halftime show. That’s beyond question. 

The average age of a fan at the game is 50, like us. Let that sit in your brain for a few….

So, 40% probably know and love them, 30% don't know who they are, and 30 know who they are, but couldn't name a song. But, i guarantee it would go down as one of the best shows EVER. But, it doesnt matter, as they will never do it

40%? You are using your own bias and projecting it on a populous. That’s delusional. If they were that popular they would be playing stadiums. There is a reason that their only “big” shows are at ball parks in Chicago and Boston. They could do a national tour of then but know it’s not going to sell out. I mean the Lumineers played amphitheaters, ball parks and stadiums this year. Would PJ be able to do that tour (as a hypothetical)?If you ask a random 50 year old about Pearl Jam you are more likely to get a “They still around” than “I love them.” 

Their popularity (or lack of) and opinions of ours doesn’t diminish our love of the band but our feeling aren’t reflected in the larger population. 

Also using your data, if they are already watching, the half time show would be used to drum up interest in younger demos that aren’t watching. You don’t market to an audience you already have. You market to new audiences.

40% would be 32,000 people out of 80,000 are “fans”. No? How about 25%? 20,000 out of the 80 are fans. No? What would you say is more accurate? 

See, the problem on here has always been the downplaying of the bands popularity. I remember when it was announced they were playing Wrigley. The general consensus  on here was “it might be well attended, but it wont sell out”. BANG , fastest sellout ever. So the peeps said “it was only because of the lack of shows around then”. 2016 comes, and bang, in the midst of a lot more shows, all four shows sold out quick. 2018, again, all 7 stadium shows sold out instantly. So, people then said “well, its only because theres only 7 shows. Fine, but what if there were 2 more in New York, 2 more in Philly, 2 more in Atlanta, 2 more in LA, 2 in Miami, 2 in Texas? All ballparks. Now you’re pushing 20 stadium shows, and they absolutely would have been sold out. Of course they would, you gotta know that.

I asked this of some Europeans who were talking about PJ’S great mistake of trying to play Tottenham. As an example, if Pearl Jam is selling out Wulheide, at 22,000, how many more people might have wanted to go to that show? If you allow for 40% going to both, you end up with over 35,000 asses that woulda gone to the second.  Knock that down to 30% two-timers, you’re pushing 40,000. Do you think those are realistic numbers? Or do you think that since they sold it out at 22,000, they couldve only drawn 22,047?
 

As far as the Lumineers thing, you dont think PJ could pull THAT tour off? PJ would sell-out everyone of those gigs. The Lumineers sure didnt

Buddy several of the west coast Dark Matter shows had plenty of tickets available the day of.

Plenty, eh? So, like, 50, 100? 

Zen23

I had a dream. Or a nightmare. I'm not sure yet.

I was at a Robbie Williams concert. Definitely the nightmare part. I was standing on stage. To the side. Pearl Jam were the surprise guests, playing one song with Robbie. After the show, Jeff told me that they would be playing at the Southside Festival in Germany in 2026. My first thought was, damn, a festival. My second was, he's probably just testing me to see if I'll keep this nonsense to myself or post it right away on the Ten Club forum. I've now decided on the latter.

At least it's a concrete rumor for the first time in a long time.

ddeschler

First rumor we've heard in a while.  Sometimes dreams come true.

Haijay

Zen23 said:

I had a dream. Or a nightmare. I'm not sure yet.

I was at a Robbie Williams concert. Definitely the nightmare part. I was standing on stage. To the side. Pearl Jam were the surprise guests, playing one song with Robbie. After the show, Jeff told me that they would be playing at the Southside Festival in Germany in 2026. My first thought was, damn, a festival. My second was, he's probably just testing me to see if I'll keep this nonsense to myself or post it right away on the Ten Club forum. I've now decided on the latter.

At least it's a concrete rumor for the first time in a long time.

If you were at a Robbie Williams concert, that is a CLEAR nightmare. One where i would actually go looking for Freddie Kruger