psst...06/16/2025

Merkin Baller

Shaindli1 said:

What about bootlegs of items that technically don’t exist?
I really wanted the tiger shirt from the spring tour but those were made for kids. So I found a place online that makes them in adult sizes and got one. I love the graphics!

If it isn't the original artist selling it, than someone else is profiting off that work... still a counterfeit IMO. 

pjl44

I would personally much rather go without the thing than support someone who is ripping off others' work. There are plenty of other things.

Merkin Baller

pjl44 said:

I would personally much rather go without the thing than support someone who is ripping off others' work. There are plenty of other things.

Oh I agree. Like I said, I'm not proud of the Hartford, but it is what it is. 

Everyone has their moments of weakness. 

pjl44

Merkin Baller said:

pjl44 said:

I would personally much rather go without the thing than support someone who is ripping off others' work. There are plenty of other things.

Oh I agree. Like I said, I'm not proud of the Hartford, but it is what it is. 

Everyone has their moments of weakness. 

I get it and also think it’s a matter of degrees. I reserve my actual judgment for those who argue in favor of the practice. Goes back to the file sharing stuff too.

AF71399

trees said:

trees said:

Forced to buy a replica off ebay for $30 and framed it myself with a $27 frame. 
I can't tell the difference CAN you all ? 
Still i would of liked a original 

How does he knock off look outside of the frame? Is it printed like a cheap poster you would get at (for eg) Walmart? Asking for a friend. 

Ryan

People don’t want to support flippers, albeit at a higher price, but are willing to support people producing knockoffs.  Not for me, thanks.
It’s like the bootlegged orange Benaroya Hall LPs; I’d rather just not have one.  Different strokes I suppose.

Merkin Baller

Ryan said:

People don’t want to support flippers, albeit at a higher price, but are willing to support people producing knockoffs.  Not for me, thanks.
It’s like the bootlegged orange Benaroya Hall LPs; I’d rather just not have one.  Different strokes I suppose.

As much as people complain about flippers, they support them too... If they didn't the market wouldn't exist. Some people are on record as saying they would rather pay a flipper than have to wait in line for 5 hours themselves, which I understand. 

pjbugs007

Ran into a guy at the MSG shows and he said he pays ppl to stand in line for him.. and as they get close he switches with the person he is paying. He to rather not “waste” all day standing in line..

CopperTom

pjbugs007 said:

Ran into a guy at the MSG shows and he said he pays ppl to stand in line for him.. and as they get close he switches with the person he is paying. He to rather not “waste” all day standing in line..

I was next to a professional line waiter during the pop-up merch store line for GCF 2015.  He did that everyday.  

BRONDO

CopperTom said:

pjbugs007 said:

Ran into a guy at the MSG shows and he said he pays ppl to stand in line for him.. and as they get close he switches with the person he is paying. He to rather not “waste” all day standing in line..

I was next to a professional line waiter during the pop-up merch store line for GCF 2015.  He did that everyday.  

Did you ask how much he was getting paid?

thirdbeach

Merkin Baller said:

Ryan said:

People don’t want to support flippers, albeit at a higher price, but are willing to support people producing knockoffs.  Not for me, thanks.
It’s like the bootlegged orange Benaroya Hall LPs; I’d rather just not have one.  Different strokes I suppose.

As much as people complain about flippers, they support them too... If they didn't the market wouldn't exist. Some people are on record as saying they would rather pay a flipper than have to wait in line for 5 hours themselves, which I understand. 

I walked up to the front of the line at the Missoula show and paid a kid $200 for the skateboard.  Pre-funking with friends I don't see often meant more to me than sitting in line for hours.  The kid bought another one and had $$ to spare.  

drfox

CopperTom said:

pjbugs007 said:

Ran into a guy at the MSG shows and he said he pays ppl to stand in line for him.. and as they get close he switches with the person he is paying. He to rather not “waste” all day standing in line..

I was next to a professional line waiter during the pop-up merch store line for GCF 2015.  He did that everyday.  

When I went to the Volcom pop-up shop in London, there were a few younger people a bit in front of me who didn’t look like PJ fans at all. Around half an hour before the shop opened a guy near the front of the queue went over to these people and gave them a wad of cash and asked them to pick up the maximum allocation of each for him of the deck, posters, show shirts etc… it was clear he’d paid these people to queue to buy him extra. 
Debated mentioning it to the staff but didn’t want to create a scene. 

on2legs

I'm not a professional line waiter, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

PSUS2H

drfox said:

CopperTom said:

pjbugs007 said:

Ran into a guy at the MSG shows and he said he pays ppl to stand in line for him.. and as they get close he switches with the person he is paying. He to rather not “waste” all day standing in line..

I was next to a professional line waiter during the pop-up merch store line for GCF 2015.  He did that everyday.  

When I went to the Volcom pop-up shop in London, there were a few younger people a bit in front of me who didn’t look like PJ fans at all. Around half an hour before the shop opened a guy near the front of the queue went over to these people and gave them a wad of cash and asked them to pick up the maximum allocation of each for him of the deck, posters, show shirts etc… it was clear he’d paid these people to queue to buy him extra. 
Debated mentioning it to the staff but didn’t want to create a scene. 

Thats a power move. Respect. 

pjl44

drfox said:

CopperTom said:

pjbugs007 said:

Ran into a guy at the MSG shows and he said he pays ppl to stand in line for him.. and as they get close he switches with the person he is paying. He to rather not “waste” all day standing in line..

I was next to a professional line waiter during the pop-up merch store line for GCF 2015.  He did that everyday.  

When I went to the Volcom pop-up shop in London, there were a few younger people a bit in front of me who didn’t look like PJ fans at all. Around half an hour before the shop opened a guy near the front of the queue went over to these people and gave them a wad of cash and asked them to pick up the maximum allocation of each for him of the deck, posters, show shirts etc… it was clear he’d paid these people to queue to buy him extra. 
Debated mentioning it to the staff but didn’t want to create a scene. 

What would they even do in that case? Here are people who were legitimately in line and buying within allotments

AfghanTwilight

If they’d buy wider tubes and abandon the current shipping model, some of those posters would sell out that are currently warming the shelves in the shop. Put the effort in to allow combined shipping on posters, and don’t have them all pre-rolled in tubes. 

pjl44

We always assume that the guy with the wad is coming out ahead but what if they aren't?

Shaindli1

Merkin Baller said:

Shaindli1 said:

What about bootlegs of items that technically don’t exist?
I really wanted the tiger shirt from the spring tour but those were made for kids. So I found a place online that makes them in adult sizes and got one. I love the graphics!

If it isn't the original artist selling it, than someone else is profiting off that work... still a counterfeit IMO. 

That's true, but unlike poster art AP, the artists that create these shirts don’t have the option to sell the art directly. In other words, that particular product does not exist and cannot be sold. 

I would have loved to buy a shirt like that at the shows had the decision was made to manufacture it in adult sizes. Alas. 

artforbw

trees said:

trees said:

Forced to buy a replica off ebay for $30 and framed it myself with a $27 frame. 
I can't tell the difference CAN you all ? 
Still i would of liked a original 

The thing is, you bought and framed this counterfeit poster before these even went for sale online in the TenClub. Why not at least wait until after the TenClub drop?
Also, asking if someone can tell the difference of a poster's quality, based off a low-res picture you post, shot from a distance, doesn't make much sense.
A buddy of mine bought a counterfeit poster from Sri Lanka off ebay, and it looked like crap, so he opened a return of it for a refund. They ended up just refunding him and letting him keep the item, cause it's so cheap.

All that aside, I wouldn't support sellers of counterfeit items.

Poncier

BRONDO said:

CopperTom said:

pjbugs007 said:

Ran into a guy at the MSG shows and he said he pays ppl to stand in line for him.. and as they get close he switches with the person he is paying. He to rather not “waste” all day standing in line..

I was next to a professional line waiter during the pop-up merch store line for GCF 2015.  He did that everyday.  

Did you ask how much he was getting paid?

Asking for a friend?