I see why so many people voted no. I say yes, but the system needs some major upgrades.
F2F is still better than a direct after market that isn't policed IMO.
You say yes but then you say it needs upgrades which means no....
In its current state it is a broken mess that allows scalpers to buy up all of the tickets for months prior to a tour.
I really don't get how anyone that has knowledge of whats happening can say YES to this. Makes no sense to me.
With all due respect, it's easy to vote "No" to the question as posed and recommend a TM process that currently does not exist. But that's simply not realistic. Artists have to play within the confines of their current options, which are F2F vs fully transferable tickets. I'd argue that the poll question is a misleading one. It should have read, "On their next tour, should Pearl Jam use Fan to Fan or allow fully transferable tickets?" Currently most individuals here, including yourself, are voting for option #3, varying ideas that would all require a completely new system none of which are currently in existence.
God willing, the boys will tour again soon and additional options will be available. But currently, many believe F2F remains a better option than the only other available option, fully transferable tickets. And making tickets fully transferable does not solve the secondary market issue. A quick look at VividSeats and the 5/16 Pittsburgh show has ~250 seats listed. Last fall, the MSG shows had at least 3x that a few weeks out. Pittsburgh tickets are non-transferable, the NYC shows were fully transferable.
Earlier today, @stevee1982 scored a GA ticket to FL1 on F2F at face value. That victory is not even a possibility without F2F. Just like the fall, there will be plenty of more success stories as we get closer to these shows.
Enough of this, the world's greatest rock band is only a couple of weeks from hitting the road. Now get out there and enjoy the shows!
They have not changed Fan 2 Fan in 4 tours. My question is should they change it up or keep taking the lazy route and act like nothing is wrong and use it again next year. I never once said should be allow fully transferable tickets. 10C tickets should not be transferable imo. Too many issues would come of this.
I know the ship has sailed sadly but will call for 10C tickets would fix this whole mess. If they want use F2F for their premiums and the standard priced reserves then sure go for it.
This would fix people putting in for too many shows and just selling them to scalpers on fan to fan when they can't trade or don't need them.
And I would like to add to those that have no clue what is going on just read this thread on Given to Fly. It shows just how much of a struggle people have been having the last 3 months with fan to fan.
61 pages of frustration with a handful of wins. I got GA myself using Fan to Fan this year. That does not mean it is not a broken system.
My vote would be "yes" if the only options are F2F the way it is or completely non-transferable tickets. But from what I've been seeing, having transferable tickets would probably be better than F2F in its current state. Some people have been successful, but there were always people willing o sell for face on here too.
Given that I'm not 22 anymore, have a family and responsibilities, usually have to travel for a show and they announce 6 months out, anything can come up. I don't like investing $400 in a pair of tickets without the option to get my money back if something comes up. When It was $100 for a pair and I only had to drive 45 minutes away with few responsibilities that would prevent me from doing that, that was a different story and worth the risk.
So if my options are keep it the way it is or make it better, obviously I'd pick make it better. But if the options are F2F or nothing at all. If that nothing at all means you're sick with the ticket no matter what, then I'll take f2F. If that nothing at all means I can transfer it on my own, I'll take the transferable ticket.
I’ve stated it before. I don’t care what they do with tickets sold during the general sale. Transferable/non transferable, standard or premium, face value exchange or not. I just want 10C tickets to go to and be exchanged with 10C members. It shouldn’t be too hard to craft a mechanism that also this. They could spin out a verified 10C program. It’s not a reach from their old verified fan. Code the tickets as 10c and require an F2A from verified 10C to buy them. Sure their are scalpers in 10C but if you make those nontransferable only they will move to the other tickets and leave us alone.
There s plenty of face value exchange tickets for six of the ten shows this tour. It sucks you can’t lower the prices for these tickets. Lots of people are going to be unable to sell their tickets
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They have not changed Fan 2 Fan in 4 tours. My question is should they change it up or keep taking the lazy route and act like nothing is wrong and use it again next year. I never once said should be allow fully transferable tickets. 10C tickets should not be transferable imo. Too many issues would come of this.
I know the ship has sailed sadly but will call for 10C tickets would fix this whole mess. If they want use F2F for their premiums and the standard priced reserves then sure go for it.
This would fix people putting in for too many shows and just selling them to scalpers on fan to fan when they can't trade or don't need them.
61 pages of frustration with a handful of wins. I got GA myself using Fan to Fan this year. That does not mean it is not a broken system.
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/306385/2025-fan-to-fan-exchange-and-iso-ft-fs-thread
But from what I've been seeing, having transferable tickets would probably be better than F2F in its current state. Some people have been successful, but there were always people willing o sell for face on here too.
Given that I'm not 22 anymore, have a family and responsibilities, usually have to travel for a show and they announce 6 months out, anything can come up. I don't like investing $400 in a pair of tickets without the option to get my money back if something comes up. When It was $100 for a pair and I only had to drive 45 minutes away with few responsibilities that would prevent me from doing that, that was a different story and worth the risk.
So if my options are keep it the way it is or make it better, obviously I'd pick make it better.
But if the options are F2F or nothing at all. If that nothing at all means you're sick with the ticket no matter what, then I'll take f2F. If that nothing at all means I can transfer it on my own, I'll take the transferable ticket.