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SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,908
edited March 28 in A Moving Train

Here's a thread to discuss insidious manners and extremes Americans will go to to preserve their prosperity as they run out of fresh water and rare earth minerals.


Examples:

1. Disrespect for universally accepted international boundaries: "I think Greenland's going to be something that maybe is in our future. I think it's important (for) international security." 

" It cannot go on the way it is. It's not going to go on the way it is." - USA President








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USA starts World War III 15 votes

Agree
6%
PJ_Soul 1 vote
Disagree
33%
cincybearcatIndifferenceTim Simmonsmace1229tempo_n_groove 5 votes
Remains to be Seen
60%
SpunkiegotthebottleOnWis97Merkin BallerbrianluxF Me In The BrainrahjiimGlorified KCsunspots24 9 votes
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,072
    Remains to be Seen
    Let me know where the first A-bomb will land so I can be there.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,908
    edited March 28
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    1. You didn't vote, bboy.
    2. I hope your outlook improves, sincerely, maybe take a walk in nature today?
    3. World War III requires atomic bombs?
    4. When I don't renew membership and pay to post here, I will miss you Brian.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,072
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    Spunkie said:
    1. You didn't vote, bboy.
    2. I hope you're outlook improves sincerely, maybe take a walk in nature today?
    3. World War III requires atomic bombs?
    4. When I don't renew membership and pay to post here, I will miss you Brian.

    Oh no!  I hope you change your mind and stick around.  A few months ago, I was certain I was done here, but changed my mind and as of about a week ago and renewed here.   I won't shame you or belittle you for wanting to go, but I will miss you if you do!
    Now, back to your thread:
    1.  I voted optimistically with "Remains to be seen".  Very optimistically!
    2.  Yes, sorry.  Reading Heather Cox Richardson today left me feeling a bit hopeless.  I will take that walk in nature you recommended!
    3.  I always picture WWIII being an all out nuclear holocaust.  I suppose there might be other scenarios, but in any case, it would be beyond horrible.
    4.  See above!
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,464
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    My gut response is "no" but then I remember that every accusation is a confession and the Party sure like to accuse their domestic enemies of starting WWIII a lot. So who knows?
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,844
    edited March 28
    Disagree
    I’m pretty pessimistic on this Admin and 40% of American people, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen. A WW3 started by America would be deeply unpopular with Americans themselves. 

    But I understand why portions of the world, especially Canada would be worried. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,464
    edited March 28
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    Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Catturd, End Wokeness, Joe Rogan, Fox, OAN, etc. tell the American people what's popular and what's not.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,936
    OnWis97 said:
    Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Catturd, End Wokeness, Joe Rogan, Fox, OAN, etc. tell the American people what's popular and what's not.
    to a point. when it starts to affect them? not so much. and war would affect them almost immediately. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,689
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    In fairness, those quotes are far from the most incendiary that Lord Jackass (or COOTWH as HttM likes to call the president) has given us since re-taking office.
    There are many reasons WWIII could be started by the US.
    Also, I do think WWIII will involve nukes

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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,797
    edited March 29
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    I think it will be started elsewhere it’s just we’ll piggy back on the side of the axis this time.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,908
    edited March 31
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    I guess I don't know where I land on this. I don't know too much about war and I appreciate all your responses. 

    I mean I only learned today that the UK and France are the only two nuclear powers in Europe. And that is where our new Prime Minister went to visit immediately after taking office.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,072
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    Spunkie said:
    I guess I don't know where I land on this. I don't know too much about war and I appreciate all your responses. 

    I mean I only learned today that the UK and France are the only two nuclear powers in Europe. And that is where our new Prime Minister went to visit immediately after taking office.

    Europe is terrible when it comes to launching shit.  I actually think that's just fine because launching shit is a huge waste of money and resources, so maybe they will just stop doing it!

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,653
    Disagree
    Zero chance they start it. If WWIII happens, and I doubt it will, but IF it does, it won't be started by the USA. Maybe you can argue they didn't do enough to prevent it, but that isn't the same.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,653
    edited March 31
    Disagree
    I guess it also deoends on how you define "starts" it. 
    If USA decides to stop payment on a loan and the other country (China) claims we violated the agreement and decides to take military action, who "started" the war? I'd still say China. 
    Is it the first one to take military action? Well, we, and just about every other country, have already been taking military action for years. Just not against anyone big enough to take par tin WWIII. I'm not sure you'll be able to blame 1 country for WWIII, if it happens. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,771
    None of it matters. We’ve got 7 years, 8 months and 23 days. Spend it if you’ve got it.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,066
    Spunkie said:
    I guess I don't know where I land on this. I don't know too much about war and I appreciate all your responses. 

    I mean I only learned today that the UK and France are the only two nuclear powers in Europe. And that is where our new Prime Minister went to visit immediately after taking office.

    it makes complete sense for the pm to visit the seat of the commonwealth, no? 
    are there still ties to France with Quebec to explain that part of the trip?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,318
    edited April 2
    Agree
    mace1229 said:
    I guess it also deoends on how you define "starts" it. 
    If USA decides to stop payment on a loan and the other country (China) claims we violated the agreement and decides to take military action, who "started" the war? I'd still say China. 
    Is it the first one to take military action? Well, we, and just about every other country, have already been taking military action for years. Just not against anyone big enough to take par tin WWIII. I'm not sure you'll be able to blame 1 country for WWIII, if it happens. 

    What about if the US annexes another country, and WWIII starts because the world retaliates against the annexation and declares wars against the US? You know, how WWII started. That would definitely be the USA starting WWIII just like Germany started WWII.
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,908
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    Good argument thank you, duckie
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,653
    Disagree
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    I guess it also deoends on how you define "starts" it. 
    If USA decides to stop payment on a loan and the other country (China) claims we violated the agreement and decides to take military action, who "started" the war? I'd still say China. 
    Is it the first one to take military action? Well, we, and just about every other country, have already been taking military action for years. Just not against anyone big enough to take par tin WWIII. I'm not sure you'll be able to blame 1 country for WWIII, if it happens. 

    What about if the US annexes another country, and WWIII starts because the world retaliates against the annexation and declares wars against the US? You know, how WWII started. That would definitely be the USA starting WWIII just like Germany started WWII.
    If there is a WWIII, I don't think there will be a single country to blame. The US isn't just going to annex another country, we're not going to take control of Greenland or Canada. It just isn't going to happen. 
    Russia has already invaded another country and no one has stepped in with direct military action to stop them, mostly because we all realize it isn't worth WWIII. 
    If there is a WWIII, I believe it will be a chain of events that won't pin down to just 1 thing. Maybe 1 country does something wrong, but then other countries react in a way to to escalate it. Like what's going on with Russia and Ukraine. We know what Russia is doing is wrong, but we're not getting directly involved because we don't want to start WWIII. Russia also chose a country that he knows we won't directly defend for that reason. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,318
    edited April 4
    Agree
    I think of Ukraine as the new Czechoslovakia. Who will be the new Poland I wonder?
    Putin is very very interested in the US annexing Greenland - it's not hard to figure out why.
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