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Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
edited October 31 in The Porch
Say I'm overreacting all you want, but this is how hate wins.

But don't take it from me, take it from my friend Kenny:




PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
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  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,859
    If we were to go down that path of logic, Wrigley Field would be on the same list due to the Ricketts family's involvement in fundraising/supporting Trump since 2016.

    I don't disagree with your disappointment, but I doubt the reality of venue selection would be questioned by the band even under those circumstances.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,467
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    God, I hope so lol
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    edited October 28
    MSG has always had a sleazebag feeling to it......its just great cause its in the middle of the greatest city in the world that makes it exciting.....No offense, this is why the Left/Dems lose to someone like him....by getting upset about this....or I CANT BELIEVE HE SAID WHAT.......Vote, let the dust settle and move on

    its all become stupid, both sides
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    CROJAM95 said:
    MSG has always had a sleazebag feeling to it......its just great cause its in the middle of the greatest city in the world that makes it exciting.....No offense, this is why the Left/Dems lose to someone like him....by getting upset about this....or I CANT BELIEVE HE SAID WHAT.......Vote, let the dust settle and move on

    its all become stupid, both sides
    With respect, that's an over simplification. The both sides argument doesn't apply when it comes to the big picture of making things better. It can be applied when we point out that NO member of Congress, or the Senate should be allowed to invest in the stock market when they help control the laws that govern said market. Dems, or Republicans. Also, there should be term limits. That's something almost everyone can agree on.
    But, for all their faults, Democrats are the best (or least worst) option to help champion causes the band believes in: equality, the environment, women's rights. The modern Republican party drifts more towards The Handmaid's Tale & The Hunger Games. Survival of the fittest, richest, and Whitest.
    You do have a point when it comes to cult of personality. Hillary had next to none, and was saddled with the baggage of her husband (not a fan of him, in hindsight). But Trump did such a terrible job, even a lifer like Biden seemed like a better choice (and he was, especially with Harris).
    One last thing to dispel the both sides argument: the Trump tax cuts (along with rampant deregulation that could put us back in Bush '07-'09 territory) are responsible for the high inflation we now experience.
    It takes one second to break a coffee mug, but it takes time to put it back together again. The economy is getting better, but we need to be patient.
    Side note: glad you are well & still kicking. Hope you get a show, or two next year.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,133
    edited October 28
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 

    Edit: If the band decides to skip MSG it is because the sound sucks, not for any other reason. I thought they fixed it, but the sound was terrible in September.
    Post edited by Get_Right on
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 
    Anything's better than Roger trying to slip in tunes from Radio KAOS during his semi-annual Wall-rehashes ;)
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    tschav said:
    If we were to go down that path of logic, Wrigley Field would be on the same list due to the Ricketts family's involvement in fundraising/supporting Trump since 2016.

    I don't disagree with your disappointment, but I doubt the reality of venue selection would be questioned by the band even under those circumstances.
    That was on my mind when I visited this year, but I think they have the fans & local establishments (hi, Murph's) in mind when they make said decisions. I will say this: it gives me hope that they'll return to Orlando (even if our main arena is owned by the family that runs Amway lol)
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
    Those people there were shitty. Dolan seems shitty and a weirdo. But its just a building. 

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
    Also, most venues that PJ need are probably owned by shitty people or shitty corporations. 


    I get that the political vibes are peak right now and everyone is nervous, but we need to keep a level head about this stuff. Again, its just a building. 


  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,133
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 
    Anything's better than Roger trying to slip in tunes from Radio KAOS during his semi-annual Wall-rehashes ;)

    At least with Roger you know you are getting backing tracks ahead of time. And the Wall show is better than what Dave will bring. The Wall would be a good Broadway show because that is what it is.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,495
    edited October 28
    Why would anyone be angry or even give a thought about this?  It's a building.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,467
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 

    Edit: If the band decides to skip MSG it is because the sound sucks, not for any other reason. I thought they fixed it, but the sound was terrible in September.
    I saw him in 2016 and thought it was fantastic. He's one of my favorite musicians so I'm just glad I can see him live at least one more time. I wish I could jump in a time machine to 1973 but this is the best I can do.
  • iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Posts: 3,412
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, most venues that PJ need are probably owned by shitty people or shitty corporations. 


    I get that the political vibes are peak right now and everyone is nervous, but we need to keep a level head about this stuff. Again, its just a building. 


    Exactly
    2000 - Chicago, IL
    2003 - Champaign, IL
    2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
    2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2010 - St. Louis, MO
    2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
    2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
    2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
    2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
    2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
    2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
    2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ??
    2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
    2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
    2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)


    2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
    2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
    2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
    2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
    2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows)
    2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
    2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
    2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
    2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL
    2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI

    RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell

    RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)

  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,133
    pjl44 said:
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 

    Edit: If the band decides to skip MSG it is because the sound sucks, not for any other reason. I thought they fixed it, but the sound was terrible in September.
    I saw him in 2016 and thought it was fantastic. He's one of my favorite musicians so I'm just glad I can see him live at least one more time. I wish I could jump in a time machine to 1973 but this is the best I can do.

    Enjoy! I just wish they could pull it together.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    edited October 28
    They should live in Europe for a year. Maybe two. And play here all year around. Distancing themsleves from MSG. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 

    Edit: If the band decides to skip MSG it is because the sound sucks, not for any other reason. I thought they fixed it, but the sound was terrible in September.
    I saw him in 2016 and thought it was fantastic. He's one of my favorite musicians so I'm just glad I can see him live at least one more time. I wish I could jump in a time machine to 1973 but this is the best I can do.

    Enjoy! I just wish they could pull it together.
    I held onto that up til Richard Wright's death. No chance now. But what could've been...
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,133
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 

    Edit: If the band decides to skip MSG it is because the sound sucks, not for any other reason. I thought they fixed it, but the sound was terrible in September.
    I saw him in 2016 and thought it was fantastic. He's one of my favorite musicians so I'm just glad I can see him live at least one more time. I wish I could jump in a time machine to 1973 but this is the best I can do.

    Enjoy! I just wish they could pull it together.
    I held onto that up til Richard Wright's death. No chance now. But what could've been...

    Only ego, money and pride stand in the way. Three big things.
  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 

    Edit: If the band decides to skip MSG it is because the sound sucks, not for any other reason. I thought they fixed it, but the sound was terrible in September.
    I read a good review of the LA show. Overpriced, yes. I enjoyed the show at Radio City in 2016. On the fence about seeing him at MSG but not because of last night lol. As someone mentioned, choosing venues based on those sorts of connections would probably mean they wouldn't be playing anywhere. Kind of like trying to tour without having to rely on Ticketmaster . . .  
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,133
    SHZA said:
    Get_Right said:
    pjl44 said:
    David Gilmour is going to purge it for all of us next week 
    Get ready for a boring overpriced show with his guitar turned down and all solos slowed down. Have fun seeing him sing with his daughter.  His shows have not been good since the About Face tour in 84. Nothing to do with politics. 

    Edit: If the band decides to skip MSG it is because the sound sucks, not for any other reason. I thought they fixed it, but the sound was terrible in September.
    I read a good review of the LA show. Overpriced, yes. I enjoyed the show at Radio City in 2016. On the fence about seeing him at MSG but not because of last night lol. As someone mentioned, choosing venues based on those sorts of connections would probably mean they wouldn't be playing anywhere. Kind of like trying to tour without having to rely on Ticketmaster . . .  

    I was at that Radio City show. Out of the Blue? I think there were two nights. Boring and $250 a seat. 10 new songs and then a few Floyd favorites. No thanks. I get it that people want to see him. He is a legend. But he is a shell of his former self. He even sold the black strat. Sorry I do not want to be a downer, but it is what is.
  • MisterEtake2MisterEtake2 Posts: 393
    Pearl Jam has always been a big proponent of free speech.  Apparently, the OP is not.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,528
    we may have found the worst thread of 2024.  
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,467
    pjhawks said:
    we may have found the worst thread of 2024.  
    Because of the Gilmour disparagement yes I agree
  • smile6680smile6680 Posts: 391
    I don't think they should stop playing places like MSG. Don't leave it to the bands to stop playing. Just stop attending all functions at venues you don't agree with if that's what you truly believe. 
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle Posts: 2,752
    tschav said:
    If we were to go down that path of logic, Wrigley Field would be on the same list due to the Ricketts family's involvement in fundraising/supporting Trump since 2016.

    I don't disagree with your disappointment, but I doubt the reality of venue selection would be questioned by the band even under those circumstances.
    As a life long Cubs fan it pains me to no end that the Ricketts family is up tr**p ass. 
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    MisterEtake2 said:
    Pearl Jam has always been a big proponent of free speech.  Apparently, the OP is not.
    So, you're OK with a modern day Nazi-loving rally?

    Tell me, what did you agree with most from last night:

    that immigrants are stealing hurricane relief funds, or that Puerto Rico is a "garbage island"?

    Free speech is still free.

    No one's going to jail for last night. But "free" doesn't mean free from consequences...

    The band has skipped places for less.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    edited October 29
    pjhawks said:
    we may have found the worst thread of 2024.  
    It's a contender, but I'm not down with fascism. 

    Which is what last night was. Unfiltered, unfettered.
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 5,688
    smile6680 said:
    I don't think they should stop playing places like MSG. Don't leave it to the bands to stop playing. Just stop attending all functions at venues you don't agree with if that's what you truly believe. 
    I don't agree with fascism. I would hope most don't. Last night, it stunk the place up.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,467
    Folks for the next 8 days I'm going to recommend everyone increase consumption of their favorite narcotic, fermented sugar water, or prescribed pharmaceutical 
  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,349
    Bring back SPONSORED BY NO ONE
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