psst...10/15/2024

artforbw

pjbugs007 said:

I managed to snag 2 @ the Philly N2 show.. One for me and One to trade as I’m looking for MsG N2 poster. Don’t care about making $$$ off of it.

I've got a MSG N2 and would do that trade with you.

on2legs

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

huntersthompson

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njhaley1

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

Flavafraz

Those will probably be last two

on2legs

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

The Seattle show was another show with multiple posters.  That dilutes the market.   

The Philly poster sold out very early.   And it will likely be the fastest sellout in the shop this tour. 

njhaley1

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

The Seattle show was another show with multiple posters.  That dilutes the market.   

The Philly poster sold out very early.   And it will likely be the fastest sellout in the shop this tour. 

Even so, the shear number of those posters flying off the tables and left remaining at the end of the show, and the number still up in the 10C store...maybe it's an anomaly and if you saw the Philly show sell out early, then I can be persuaded, but for that particular Seattle poster - there were a heck of a lot more of them than either of the other posters, especially the UFO poster. 

I remember reading the same about the Chicago posters - people saying it seemed like they were printing them in the back of the trucks because there appeared to be a never-ending supply.  

on2legs

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

The Seattle show was another show with multiple posters.  That dilutes the market.   

The Philly poster sold out very early.   And it will likely be the fastest sellout in the shop this tour. 

Even so, the shear number of those posters flying off the tables and left remaining at the end of the show, and the number still up in the 10C store...maybe it's an anomaly and if you saw the Philly show sell out early, then I can be persuaded, but for that particular Seattle poster - there were a heck of a lot more of them than either of the other posters, especially the UFO poster. 

I remember reading the same about the Chicago posters - people saying it seemed like they were printing them in the back of the trucks because there appeared to be a never-ending supply.  

There aren't any of the Ames Chicago in the shop.  It sold out.  The Ames Philly sold out at least an hour and a half before the show started. 

STONESIDE

If I look at serial numbers, it's a large quantity...

AMES - Pearl Jam Chicago N1 23 (show/10c)
SERIAL:0283758

AMES - Pearl Jam Chicago N1 23 (AP/GOLD GLOVE EDITION)
SERIAL:0286407

that's 2,649 prints in-between what i own...total is probably much larger

njhaley1

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

The Seattle show was another show with multiple posters.  That dilutes the market.   

The Philly poster sold out very early.   And it will likely be the fastest sellout in the shop this tour. 

Even so, the shear number of those posters flying off the tables and left remaining at the end of the show, and the number still up in the 10C store...maybe it's an anomaly and if you saw the Philly show sell out early, then I can be persuaded, but for that particular Seattle poster - there were a heck of a lot more of them than either of the other posters, especially the UFO poster. 

I remember reading the same about the Chicago posters - people saying it seemed like they were printing them in the back of the trucks because there appeared to be a never-ending supply.  

There aren't any of the Ames Chicago in the shop.  It sold out.  The Ames Philly sold out at least an hour and a half before the show started. 

I know, but at the show - at the show people were saying they were printing them in the back of the delivery trucks.

Let's just summarize this as: I believe that for at least some shows, Ames is printing the hell out of their posters, and there aren't a similar number of each show's various posters for sale at the show.  When Ames doesn't sell out, they'll show up in the 10C in addition to whatever allotment we get. And based on the comment below from @rhcpjam1029, Philly may be a recent anomaly rather than the rule.  

rhcpjam1029

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

The Seattle show was another show with multiple posters.  That dilutes the market.   

The Philly poster sold out very early.   And it will likely be the fastest sellout in the shop this tour. 

Even so, the shear number of those posters flying off the tables and left remaining at the end of the show, and the number still up in the 10C store...maybe it's an anomaly and if you saw the Philly show sell out early, then I can be persuaded, but for that particular Seattle poster - there were a heck of a lot more of them than either of the other posters, especially the UFO poster. 

I remember reading the same about the Chicago posters - people saying it seemed like they were printing them in the back of the trucks because there appeared to be a never-ending supply.  

Same goes for Fenway...multiple stands had stacks still available by the end of the show.  I didn't see any of the five pulled down from the displays at the end of the show like I do every other show.  

Also on the Philly print -- I think these were mis-distributed.  I was one of the first people at one of the booths and they didn't have any stack whatsoever.  Said they sold out outside before doors even opened.  I know that they only make a very limited few available outside before shows, but seems like they mistakenly made too many available.  Plus if you look at a lot of the postings on eBay, the hero images taken are of people holding the poster outside the venue.  

on2legs

rhcpjam1029 said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

The Seattle show was another show with multiple posters.  That dilutes the market.   

The Philly poster sold out very early.   And it will likely be the fastest sellout in the shop this tour. 

Even so, the shear number of those posters flying off the tables and left remaining at the end of the show, and the number still up in the 10C store...maybe it's an anomaly and if you saw the Philly show sell out early, then I can be persuaded, but for that particular Seattle poster - there were a heck of a lot more of them than either of the other posters, especially the UFO poster. 

I remember reading the same about the Chicago posters - people saying it seemed like they were printing them in the back of the trucks because there appeared to be a never-ending supply.  

Same goes for Fenway...multiple stands had stacks still available by the end of the show.  I didn't see any of the five pulled down from the displays at the end of the show like I do every other show.  

Also on the Philly print -- I think these were mis-distributed.  I was one of the first people at one of the booths and they didn't have any stack whatsoever.  Said they sold out outside before doors even opened.  I know that they only make a very limited few available outside before shows, but seems like they mistakenly made too many available.  Plus if you look at a lot of the postings on eBay, the hero images taken are of people holding the poster outside the venue.  

 The Philly poster sold out because it was a banger.  No conspiracy theories needed.  Once the poster design was dropped on Instagram there was a ton of buzz on the boards and at the show before the doors opened.  It will sell out here very quickly.  

on2legs

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

on2legs said:

njhaley1 said:

ZoSoTim said:

Check eBay. That’s easily the highest priced poster of the whole tour. 

I'm not saying it's not a really nice poster, I'm saying that Ames bros have been overproducing and really diluting the market.  I feel like the Munk One MSG poster, for example, probably started out with a much lower production run that carried over to 10C availability.  

I know 10C gets an allotment, but if the production co. overproduces, there's a bigger allotment. It may still sell out, but I'd be curious to try the "data-quantity" trick at the start of the sale to see just how many they start out with.   

And to everyone's point about popularity - remember how much the Chicago Ames were going for last year?  Now search them up - they were so overproduced that the market has really taken a dive on them since they went on sale. Yeah, some may sell for $80-100 on ebay, but after ebay takes its cut the sellers are barely breaking even.  

The artist doesn't determine how many show copies are made.  That's up to Tsurt and the band.  The number of posters from venue to venue is probably pretty consistent other than for ballpark shows which would get more.  Ames posters are not produced more than other artists.

The reason the Ames 2023 Chicago poster likely dropped was because there were 3 posters made for an arena show which is very unusual.  So anyone who didn't want to pay up for the Ames had two other cheaper options which hurt the market.  A better comparison is the Ames 2022 Camden poster.  It started out hot and has not really dropped too much.  Most ebay listings are over $200. 

I think this is a relatively new thing and specific to Ames. I don't think the number of Seattle He-Man posters was at all reflective of typical, certainly not even posters for the same venue. They were selling them by the bushel full Wednesday and Thursday nights, they never ran out and there are still >400 on the PJ site.  

Contrast that with the UFO poster, which I didn't even have the chance to see in person.  

E: Philly may be different, I wasn't there so don't know whether they sold out or not, but for the Seattle show they were printing that poster like the Fed prints money.  

The Seattle show was another show with multiple posters.  That dilutes the market.   

The Philly poster sold out very early.   And it will likely be the fastest sellout in the shop this tour. 

Even so, the shear number of those posters flying off the tables and left remaining at the end of the show, and the number still up in the 10C store...maybe it's an anomaly and if you saw the Philly show sell out early, then I can be persuaded, but for that particular Seattle poster - there were a heck of a lot more of them than either of the other posters, especially the UFO poster. 

I remember reading the same about the Chicago posters - people saying it seemed like they were printing them in the back of the trucks because there appeared to be a never-ending supply.  

There aren't any of the Ames Chicago in the shop.  It sold out.  The Ames Philly sold out at least an hour and a half before the show started. 

I know, but at the show - at the show people were saying they were printing them in the back of the delivery trucks.

Let's just summarize this as: I believe that for at least some shows, Ames is printing the hell out of their posters, and there aren't a similar number of each show's various posters for sale at the show.  When Ames doesn't sell out, they'll show up in the 10C in addition to whatever allotment we get. And based on the comment below from @rhcpjam1029, Philly may be a recent anomaly rather than the rule.  

Ames does not print the posters.  TSurt and the band determine the print run.  

EF11

Looks like this first Boston one is sold out now. Since this one seemed to be the most popular at the shows, I’m guessing the other four will not be too hard to get once they are posted.

blazedoutbee

What time did these drop yesterday?  Missed it by a hair...

hairgrowth2001

10-10:30 eastern.

demetrios

blazedoutbee said:

What time did these drop yesterday?  Missed it by a hair...

10:05am EST.

blazedoutbee

demetrios said:

blazedoutbee said:

What time did these drop yesterday?  Missed it by a hair...

10:05am EST.

Cheers thank you sir!

STONESIDE

blazedoutbee said:

What time did these drop yesterday?  Missed it by a hair...

"timezone":"UTC"
"dateCreated": "2024-10-15 14:06:59"

10:06:59 EST

demetrios

STONESIDE said:

blazedoutbee said:

What time did these drop yesterday?  Missed it by a hair...

"timezone":"UTC"
"dateCreated": "2024-10-15 14:06:59"

10:06:59 EST

Whoa! How did you find this?