Ticketmaster ticket dumping undercutting fan 2 fan resale prices
LWiczulis
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I have a hard time believing that the band would or does approve of the holding back and then dumping tickets, as is happening at the Baltimore show. It's sickening how they (Ticketmaster) have manipulated the market by holding back so many tickets and then dumping them at MUCH lower prices than those listed as fan 2 fan face value resales. Ticketmaster created a false sense of scarcity by holding back two thousand tickets and pricing tickets that were not fan club tickets in the $600 to $800 range. Now, they are dumping tickets for as low as $249 back into the system that are, in some cases, in the same row as fans and 2 fan seats that are listed at over $800. Of course, the fan 2 fan sellers have no option to lower their selling price (willingly losing money) to get rid of their tickets. They have to offer their tickets at the price that they purchased them. No higher, no lower. Sometimes, things happen in life that cause changes in plans, and now many are stuck with tickets they can't get rid of at any price.
Ticketmaster deliberately distorted the market by holding back tickets, projecting the image that the show was selling out, marking up ticket prices to capitalize on fans' fear of missing the show, then dumping a ton of tickets back into the market, undercutting fans who purchased tickets at the inflated false market price that they intentionally created. AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT ONCE AGAIN!
Fan 2 fan ticket system was created to get tickets into REAL HUMAN fans' hands and keep greedy scalpers from manipulating the market and taking advantage of the fans. Well, it sure as hell didn't go far enough because no individual or group of thieving scalpers could ever compare to the thievery that's at the heart of the TicketMonster algorithm.
Ticketmaster deliberately distorted the market by holding back tickets, projecting the image that the show was selling out, marking up ticket prices to capitalize on fans' fear of missing the show, then dumping a ton of tickets back into the market, undercutting fans who purchased tickets at the inflated false market price that they intentionally created. AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT ONCE AGAIN!
Fan 2 fan ticket system was created to get tickets into REAL HUMAN fans' hands and keep greedy scalpers from manipulating the market and taking advantage of the fans. Well, it sure as hell didn't go far enough because no individual or group of thieving scalpers could ever compare to the thievery that's at the heart of the TicketMonster algorithm.
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So, Ticketmaster kept $144 from my purchase and will charge the buyer additional taxes and fees. I know that listing via Ticketmaster was my only option, and I'm glad that someone got a deal on a good seat, but I'm still bothered by the variance between bought and sold prices.
The ticket sold within 30 minutes.
I had TTFC in 120 row H for $201, but row E is $800+, row L is $780+ and row N is $500. Those are not fan club.
In the ticket information, it did say Premium, but I won it in the 10C lottery.
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I did win it through the 10C lottery. I wasn't even invited to the Verified Fan sales. And I did pay premium for MSG, but rationalized that it was for my peace of mind. Like you all said, people around me paid face on the day of the show. My preference will always be 10C seats.
Yes I know some of us are on TM constantly finding tickets and that’s great, but F5ing is not realistic for many fans. At 1pm Sept 3rd, there were very slim pickings under $500 on TM for NY.