That set looked awesome. People have gone to too many shows.
Probably this, and have unrealistic expectations at certain venues for special treatment
At this point everyone should know what to expect. Slow opening, new ones , a few deep ones. It’s very formulaic but still has the ability to surprise. And most importantly they sound great.
That set looked awesome. People have gone to too many shows.
Probably this, and have unrealistic expectations at certain venues for special treatment
At this point everyone should know what to expect. Slow opening, new ones , a few deep ones. It’s very formulaic but still has the ability to surprise. And most importantly they sound great.
I really need to not read these threads after shows I go to. I’m really not sure what people are wanting/expecting anymore
No shit... Fucking Karen crew
Why disparage those that have a different opinion than you? The board is fun because everyone comes at these shows from a different perspective and all opinions are valid. I have used this analogy before but it is like having a debate about the best ice cream favors and then someone comes in and says to shut up; you should be happy you get ice cream at all. Zero fun in that. I continue to not understand everyone who calls those that have a slightly negative opinion "complainers" or to shut up and just enjoy the band.
I really need to not read these threads after shows I go to. I’m really not sure what people are wanting/expecting anymore
No shit... Fucking Karen crew
Why disparage those that have a different opinion than you? The board is fun because everyone comes at these shows from a different perspective and all opinions are valid. I have used this analogy before but it is like having a debate about the best ice cream favors and then someone comes in and says to shut up; you should be happy you get ice cream at all. Zero fun in that. I continue to not understand everyone who calls those that have a slightly negative opinion "complainers" or to shut up and just enjoy the band.
You must have forgotten where you are posting for a moment.
I really need to not read these threads after shows I go to. I’m really not sure what people are wanting/expecting anymore
No shit... Fucking Karen crew
Why disparage those that have a different opinion than you? The board is fun because everyone comes at these shows from a different perspective and all opinions are valid. I have used this analogy before but it is like having a debate about the best ice cream favors and then someone comes in and says to shut up; you should be happy you get ice cream at all. Zero fun in that. I continue to not understand everyone who calls those that have a slightly negative opinion "complainers" or to shut up and just enjoy the band.
Well said. I think when you combine the shorter sets, more repeats, way more expensive tickets and worse 10C locations it's very reasonable to have a solid but not spectacular time at a show without being bombarded with accusations of negativity.
Having been there in 2022 vs just seeing last night's setlist...
MSG 2024 > MSG 2022
I think I'm the opposite in preferring 2022 over last night (I was at 2022 as well but not last night). The only thing I would do is swap out the 3 Gigaton songs for 3 DM songs lol. It's close, but that Release, Garden, Come Back, Present Tense, Porch start was wild.
Either way, both looked great. Excited to see what's in store for tonight. Curious if any non DM songs will get a repeat.
I stand by that the screen is useless and would rather have fans all around ANY DAY BY A MILE. Just my opinion of course.
I’m with you man. I hope the screen is a one tour experiment.
It’s cool they are trying new things and had some good images, but it was like we were missing five thousand of our brothers and sisters. Although the msg crowd always seems to bring it, there was something missing, as there is nothing like the band being surrounded by enthusiastic msg fans. No ballpark, no sphere, no way.
This set list was better than MSG2022 but I do think the energy from 2022 was just on another level. I have rarely heard msg so loud (maybe during that crazy betterman applause in 2010)
of course it’s impossible to pick. Yesterday is the only time I was lucky enough to be in the pit so that was unique. Once you have gone to a lot of shows, it’s more than just the set or the show it’s also about other unique things: who you met, where your seats were, who you danced with etc
Jones Beach II (2000), Holmdel (2003), Camden I, East Rutherford II, Gorge I, Gorge II (2006), MSG I, Boston II (2008), Spectrum II, Spectrum III, Spectrum IV (2009), MSG I, MSG II (2010), Prague (2012), Philly I (2013), Philly I, Philly II, Fenway I (2016), Fenway I (2018), MSG (2022), MSG I, Fenway 1 (2024)
I really need to not read these threads after shows I go to. I’m really not sure what people are wanting/expecting anymore
No shit... Fucking Karen crew
Why disparage those that have a different opinion than you? The board is fun because everyone comes at these shows from a different perspective and all opinions are valid. I have used this analogy before but it is like having a debate about the best ice cream favors and then someone comes in and says to shut up; you should be happy you get ice cream at all. Zero fun in that. I continue to not understand everyone who calls those that have a slightly negative opinion "complainers" or to shut up and just enjoy the band.
Well said. I think when you combine the shorter sets, more repeats, way more expensive tickets and worse 10C locations it's very reasonable to have a solid but not spectacular time at a show without being bombarded with accusations of negativity.
Having been there in 2022 vs just seeing last night's setlist...
MSG 2024 > MSG 2022
I think I'm the opposite in preferring 2022 over last night (I was at 2022 as well but not last night). The only thing I would do is swap out the 3 Gigaton songs for 3 DM songs lol. It's close, but that Release, Garden, Come Back, Present Tense, Porch start was wild.
Either way, both looked great. Excited to see what's in store for tonight. Curious if any non DM songs will get a repeat.
It's funny you mention the start. It was fire right up until the fight stoppage during Porch. I couldn't believe that nonsense. Took me out of the show a little bit.
Why? Because they express an honest take after a show? I didn’t love the Indy show last week. Does that make me “miserable”?
For real, this.
Last night was my 14th PJ show and by far my least favorite attended. In fact, I said before the show that Pearl Jam has never had me leave a shot less than very satisfied, and that changed last night. I found the setlist to be weird, had almost no interest in the show until LBC started, and overall thought it was a weaker show with a very low energy crowd for MSG.
People are allowed to have opinions and criticize bands they love.
It seems like the MSG shows were love them or hate them, kind of weird. They look good on paper, but I wasn’t there. I think at this point the band found a formula for what works on there set list, mixing a couple of rarities with a few hits, and add the typical new album stuff and you have your show. That’s not bad, it’s just more predictable. I would think at the tonight runs they would not repeat as many songs as they do, no real point when you have a great catalog full of hits that you can mix up to keep the casual fans happy . At this point, you don’t need to play DTE every night, and Jeremy, Alive, and Even Flow can be rotated in and out and not be played every night and still leave everyone happy.
It seems like the MSG shows were love them or hate them, kind of weird. They look good on paper, but I wasn’t there. I think at this point the band found a formula for what works on there set list, mixing a couple of rarities with a few hits, and add the typical new album stuff and you have your show. That’s not bad, it’s just more predictable. I would think at the tonight runs they would not repeat as many songs as they do, no real point when you have a great catalog full of hits that you can mix up to keep the casual fans happy . At this point, you don’t need to play DTE every night, and Jeremy, Alive, and Even Flow can be rotated in and out and not be played every night and still leave everyone happy.
N1 had less energy at the start because Pendulum and Immortality, although great songs, are not raging singalongs. Then they were into DM quicker.
Then N2, Garden only gets played a quarter of the time perhaps and its a rage. Then Cuordoroy, Hail, EF.
After he obviously wanted to start N1 chill, was expecting N2 starting as a rage.
I was at 9.11.22 and thought it was the best PJ crowd I've ever been a part of, and up there with 10.30.09 as my favorite attended PJ show ever.
9.4.24 was the worst PJ crowd and my least favorite.
You thought last nights crowd was the worst pj crowd?! Whaaaat.
It was definitely louder yesterday but thats really due to the setlist construction
Pendulum is a great chill song. Not sure its going to get the faithful in a roar like opening the Garden with Garden. The crowd was roaring thru that. It was fun. Not meh.
But I don't think any screen show will ever compare to shows when every seat is occupied there.
In that building, fans behind Matt bring huge energy usually. I missed them the last 2 nites
I was at 9.11.22 and thought it was the best PJ crowd I've ever been a part of, and up there with 10.30.09 as my favorite attended PJ show ever.
9.4.24 was the worst PJ crowd and my least favorite.
You thought last nights crowd was the worst pj crowd?! Whaaaat.
It was definitely louder yesterday but thats really due to the setlist construction
Pendulum is a great chill song. Not sure its going to get the faithful in a roar like opening the Garden with Garden. The crowd was roaring thru that. It was fun. Not meh.
But I don't think any screen show will ever compare to shows when every seat is occupied there.
In that building, fans behind Matt bring huge energy usually. I missed them the last 2 nites
Totally agree with you. One of the best things about a pj show is it's simplicity; the screen has to go. It's so not pj.
I was at 9.11.22 and thought it was the best PJ crowd I've ever been a part of, and up there with 10.30.09 as my favorite attended PJ show ever.
9.4.24 was the worst PJ crowd and my least favorite.
You thought last nights crowd was the worst pj crowd?! Whaaaat.
It was definitely louder yesterday but thats really due to the setlist construction
Pendulum is a great chill song. Not sure its going to get the faithful in a roar like opening the Garden with Garden. The crowd was roaring thru that. It was fun. Not meh.
But I don't think any screen show will ever compare to shows when every seat is occupied there.
In that building, fans behind Matt bring huge energy usually. I missed them the last 2 nites
Totally agree with you. One of the best things about a pj show is its simplicity; the screen has to go. It's so not pj.
Completely agree with all of this. Plus, the screen is very distracting. I find myself watching a screen instead of the real thing. A societal problem creeping into to our PJ world...
I was at 9.11.22 and thought it was the best PJ crowd I've ever been a part of, and up there with 10.30.09 as my favorite attended PJ show ever.
9.4.24 was the worst PJ crowd and my least favorite.
You thought last nights crowd was the worst pj crowd?! Whaaaat.
That I've seen in person, yeah. Just didn't feel the energy other than during Black and Given to Fly. But I also think the set list construction had something to do with it. Then again, I didn't like the set list.
I was at 9.11.22 and thought it was the best PJ crowd I've ever been a part of, and up there with 10.30.09 as my favorite attended PJ show ever.
9.4.24 was the worst PJ crowd and my least favorite.
You thought last nights crowd was the worst pj crowd?! Whaaaat.
That I've seen in person, yeah. Just didn't feel the energy other than during Black and Given to Fly. But I also think the set list construction had something to do with it. Then again, I didn't like the set list.
aoh night one lol. you put 9/4! I was like...whaaat?!
This set list was better than MSG2022 but I do think the energy from 2022 was just on another level. I have rarely heard msg so loud (maybe during that crazy betterman applause in 2010)
of course it’s impossible to pick. Yesterday is the only time I was lucky enough to be in the pit so that was unique. Once you have gone to a lot of shows, it’s more than just the set or the show it’s also about other unique things: who you met, where your seats were, who you danced with etc
Been at every MSG show since 2010 and agree - 22 Release opener was an absolute explosion of energy (and Covid for me and my wife lol).
But I still remember the Betterman from 2010 and I still get goosebumps - that’s after 1,000s of shows over 45 years. It was a pretty spiritual moment and I was pretty sober compared to the 50 or so Grateful Dead shows I’ve seen 😂
"Hey, listen asshole, one more fucker throws a fuckin' quarter up here and we're outta here, I'm tellin' ya, FUCKER! What the fuck, you're blowin' it for fuckin' everybody. Hit me with a fuckin' quarter again and, fuck it, I'm outta here. We're all outta here. Fuck you, and if anyone sees someone throw fuckin' change right next to them, you have my permission to beat the fuckin' holy shit outta them."
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
Either way, both looked great. Excited to see what's in store for tonight. Curious if any non DM songs will get a repeat.
of course it’s impossible to pick. Yesterday is the only time I was lucky enough to be in the pit so that was unique. Once you have gone to a lot of shows, it’s more than just the set or the show it’s also about other unique things: who you met, where your seats were, who you danced with etc
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Last night was my 14th PJ show and by far my least favorite attended. In fact, I said before the show that Pearl Jam has never had me leave a shot less than very satisfied, and that changed last night. I found the setlist to be weird, had almost no interest in the show until LBC started, and overall thought it was a weaker show with a very low energy crowd for MSG.
People are allowed to have opinions and criticize bands they love.
N1 had less energy at the start because Pendulum and Immortality, although great songs, are not raging singalongs. Then they were into DM quicker.
Then N2, Garden only gets played a quarter of the time perhaps and its a rage. Then Cuordoroy, Hail, EF.
After he obviously wanted to start N1 chill, was expecting N2 starting as a rage.
9.4.24 was the worst PJ crowd and my least favorite.
Pendulum is a great chill song. Not sure its going to get the faithful in a roar like opening the Garden with Garden. The crowd was roaring thru that. It was fun. Not meh.
But I don't think any screen show will ever compare to shows when every seat is occupied there.
In that building, fans behind Matt bring huge energy usually. I missed them the last 2 nites
But I still remember the Betterman from 2010 and I still get goosebumps - that’s after 1,000s of shows over 45 years. It was a pretty spiritual moment and I was pretty sober compared to the 50 or so Grateful Dead shows I’ve seen 😂