It was...weird. It did not sound slow to me. When they started playing it was like Jeff and Mike were not playing in the same key and Ed walked over and tried to sort it out without restarting the song and ended up just singing in a lower register for it I think to keep it from completely going off the rails. A bit of a dumpster fire on that one but you can't win 'em all.
This is unfortunate to hear. I always follow the setlist for these shows because I'm excited to see what gets played. When I saw Faithful, I was so happy for you guys. Maybe on the bootleg, on repeated listens, it will somehow become a cool altered version? (hopefully). I'm now interested in hearing this.
It wasn’t really a slow version, but felt like it was about 3 steps down and with more minor chords. It was certainly different, but once my ears adjusted it was a cool version
It wasn’t really a slow version, but felt like it was about 3 steps down and with more minor chords. It was certainly different, but once my ears adjusted it was a cool version
Awesome! I LOVE minor chords. Need to search for the video, surely someone has a recording?
Ok. I just pulled out a guitar to figure this out. What I believe happened is that Mike had a standard tuned guitar instead of a drop D tuning. And then he just played all his normal parts in that tuning.
Ok. I just pulled out a guitar to figure this out. What I believe happened is that Mike had a standard tuned guitar instead of a drop D tuning. And then he just played all his normal parts in that tuning.
Ok. I just pulled out a guitar to figure this out. What I believe happened is that Mike had a standard tuned guitar instead of a drop D tuning. And then he just played all his normal parts in that tuning.
Can't be as bad as the Worcester My Father's Son where Mike and Jeff's basses were a semitone off from eachother
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Ok. I just pulled out a guitar to figure this out. What I believe happened is that Mike had a standard tuned guitar instead of a drop D tuning. And then he just played all his normal parts in that tuning.
Can't be as bad as the Worcester My Father's Son where Mike and Jeff's basses were a semitone off from eachother
Other than them trying to figure out WTF was happening in the beginning, I think it was actually a pretty cool version. I've been jamming on it all morning since I picked up the guitar.
Slight correction to my original post... it's an Open G tuning he usually plays in, not Dropped D.
Ok. I just pulled out a guitar to figure this out. What I believe happened is that Mike had a standard tuned guitar instead of a drop D tuning. And then he just played all his normal parts in that tuning.
Can't be as bad as the Worcester My Father's Son where Mike and Jeff's basses were a semitone off from eachother
Other than them trying to figure out WTF was happening in the beginning, I think it was actually a pretty cool version. I've been jamming on it all morning since I picked up the guitar.
Slight correction to my original post... it's an Open G tuning he usually plays in, not Dropped D.
I havent been able to find it online to listen, but that makes more sense. When I read it was just supposed to be drop D tuning, my thought was why didnt he just take the 3 seconds to drop it to D. Open G would make more sense that he didn't.
Ok. I just pulled out a guitar to figure this out. What I believe happened is that Mike had a standard tuned guitar instead of a drop D tuning. And then he just played all his normal parts in that tuning.
Can't be as bad as the Worcester My Father's Son where Mike and Jeff's basses were a semitone off from eachother
Other than them trying to figure out WTF was happening in the beginning, I think it was actually a pretty cool version. I've been jamming on it all morning since I picked up the guitar.
Slight correction to my original post... it's an Open G tuning he usually plays in, not Dropped D.
I havent been able to find it online to listen, but that makes more sense. When I read it was just supposed to be drop D tuning, my thought was why didnt he just take the 3 seconds to drop it to D. Open G would make more sense that he didn't.
It's at about the 10 minute mark of the livestream.
Ok. I just pulled out a guitar to figure this out. What I believe happened is that Mike had a standard tuned guitar instead of a drop D tuning. And then he just played all his normal parts in that tuning.
Can't be as bad as the Worcester My Father's Son where Mike and Jeff's basses were a semitone off from eachother
Other than them trying to figure out WTF was happening in the beginning, I think it was actually a pretty cool version. I've been jamming on it all morning since I picked up the guitar.
Slight correction to my original post... it's an Open G tuning he usually plays in, not Dropped D.
Just got sent a recording and it's a pretty interesting listen. I'm almost 100% sure what happened is that Mike is tuned farther down than Jeff.
In Denver '22 (just a random tuned down version i knew of), they're playing a half step down from the album key of G. In the Sac version, Jeff is playing in that same key (F#, half step down from the album), whereas Mike is now playing a full m3 below the album (E), and a whole step lower than Jeff. Thus changing that opening chord from a sorta fancy Esus to an Em7. Ed catches it pretty well and they essentially play a minor version of Faithful. Kinda cool
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It's not terribly slow. They usually play it a lot faster live, faster than the album. I don't like the faster live versions of songs, from any band. Mike's part is off though.
Honestly thought this thread was about either the aging fanbase or the merch line.
Cincy, that made me laugh out loud! To show you how clueless I am about music, I didn't notice anything at the show until I saw people post about it after. I probably just couldn't hear it over my awesome singing.
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2008: Camden 2, Hartford
2010: Hartford
2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
2015: NYC
2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
Slight correction to my original post... it's an Open G tuning he usually plays in, not Dropped D.
In Denver '22 (just a random tuned down version i knew of), they're playing a half step down from the album key of G. In the Sac version, Jeff is playing in that same key (F#, half step down from the album), whereas Mike is now playing a full m3 below the album (E), and a whole step lower than Jeff. Thus changing that opening chord from a sorta fancy Esus to an Em7. Ed catches it pretty well and they essentially play a minor version of Faithful. Kinda cool
2008: Camden 2, Hartford
2010: Hartford
2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
2015: NYC
2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
mike is just playing it wrong
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2008: Camden 2, Hartford
2010: Hartford
2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
2015: NYC
2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
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I think it was a complete trainwreck. Yikes. They should have stopped and fixed the problem.
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