The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

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GlowGirl said:

jwc6160 said:

I know it's not common knowledge, but what is a "high number" these days? I'm at about 10 years so I know my number is high, but I know a lot of people have dropped off over the years so it's really hard to evaluate. I've gotten decent tickets and bad. I also haven't sat in my allocated seat the past 4-5 tours and have upgraded via F2F but I absolutely hate playing the game so I almost always just put in for seats. 

Maybe someone who just joined can tell us the first 4 digits of their number so we can get an idea of what they are up to now.

I joined a year ago and my first three digits are 755

aisleseats

yieldtobinaural said:

dmbolp said:

Screen shots of the 5 venue seating charts

So, Lenovo in Raleigh has a 200 and 300 level bowl. Judging by this pic only the 200 is being sold. Does that seem right or is the picture misleading?

Those maps are just showing you what you could get thru 10C for $185. The other sections will be sold thru the artist presale.

RatherStarved

aisleseats said:

yieldtobinaural said:

dmbolp said:

Screen shots of the 5 venue seating charts

So, Lenovo in Raleigh has a 200 and 300 level bowl. Judging by this pic only the 200 is being sold. Does that seem right or is the picture misleading?

Those maps are just showing you what you could get thru 10C for $185. The other sections will be sold thru the artist presale.

But it’s also misleading because it makes you think the entirety of the shaded sections are 10c but in reality a lot of those sections are a mix between 10c tickets, premium, holdbacks and artist sale.  Definite risk of landing upstairs in some cities.  

HailHailVitalogy

Sorry busy day, just catching up. At 342xxx from 2004 I’m putting in for all shows except Nashville (have tickets for Jack White in Denver). Don’t think my number is bad enough to get uppers, and the reward for winning GA is too great. Unless premiums are pushing us even further back.

But, grouping uppers with P1 is ridiculous….so is allowing the ability to win both Hard Rock shows. However, I like the $99 option for the last few rows of the uppers…step in the right direction.  

Edit: @aisleseats I couldn’t select both ga/reserved and reserved. Just one, never seen that before. Anyone else notice that 

ally12

D-Rod said:

ally12 said:

I’m just here now for all the reactions of the members that didn’t get the $1 charge 

I didn’t but I also didn’t in this years shows , and 2023 shows 

Neither did I during this stage, I received it the day of the lottery. For me, it went $1, notification from bank, then notification from 10c then pure excitement and panic attack.. haha 

julieooliern

If I requested tickets in the Ten Club Presale can I also sign up for the Artist Presale that happens on December 13?

Yes. Everyone is encouraged to sign up for the Artist Presale for an additional opportunity to shop for tickets. This sale will take place after all Ten Club ticket requests have been processed. You can sign up for the Artist Presale any time before Tuesday, December 10 at 10 a.m. PT.

Question, (see above)TM recommends in their FAQs for 10C members to also request tickets through the Artist Presale to increase odds of getting tickets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

drfox

whereamigoin said:

Have they ever announced a tour , and then more dates to that tour at a later stage ? 

I’m hoping the berlin and London cancelled shows will be rescheduled . 

It’s unusual this tour is spread over two years and not all shows have been announced at once so who knows whats coming next . 

These 5 shows they have just announced in April / May leaves me wondering if something in Europe is comming next . They always seem to play Europe in June / July. The door is still open for summer  ……🤔

I’m still hoping but feels unlikely given the lack of rumours

Gravey1975

Sabrina Carpenter just announced for the remaining BST slot on July 5, so if there ARE to be any London shows I would bet that it'd follow the trend of the spring NA shows and be a couple of gigs at the O2. Same with Berlin, Amsterdam, etc. I think it's a remote chance tho.

hihobibo

julieooliern said:

If I requested tickets in the Ten Club Presale can I also sign up for the Artist Presale that happens on December 13?

Yes. Everyone is encouraged to sign up for the Artist Presale for an additional opportunity to shop for tickets. This sale will take place after all Ten Club ticket requests have been processed. You can sign up for the Artist Presale any time before Tuesday, December 10 at 10 a.m. PT.

Question, (see above)TM recommends in their FAQs for 10C members to also request tickets through the Artist Presale to increase odds of getting tickets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

It's simple. By putting in a artist presale request, you have a 2nd chance to try for tickets if you don't win the lottery. 

gotthebottle

julieooliern said:

If I requested tickets in the Ten Club Presale can I also sign up for the Artist Presale that happens on December 13?

Yes. Everyone is encouraged to sign up for the Artist Presale for an additional opportunity to shop for tickets. This sale will take place after all Ten Club ticket requests have been processed. You can sign up for the Artist Presale any time before Tuesday, December 10 at 10 a.m. PT.

Question, (see above)TM recommends in their FAQs for 10C members to also request tickets through the Artist Presale to increase odds of getting tickets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

ARTIST PRESALE = PLAIN OLD BUYING ON TM

Don't let the new name confuse you. This is just the old get in the queue with 50k others and wait your turn. If people don't sign up they won't be let in. 

JABK

Can we now assume that Europe 2025 is not happening?

stones

drfox said:

whereamigoin said:

Have they ever announced a tour , and then more dates to that tour at a later stage ? 

I’m hoping the berlin and London cancelled shows will be rescheduled . 

It’s unusual this tour is spread over two years and not all shows have been announced at once so who knows whats coming next . 

These 5 shows they have just announced in April / May leaves me wondering if something in Europe is comming next . They always seem to play Europe in June / July. The door is still open for summer  ……🤔

I’m still hoping but feels unlikely given the lack of rumours

For me it's not so much the lack of Euro rumours that's a concern - I feel like until a few weeks ago there wasn't really any solid rumours for this US Spring tour, that seemed to come together very fast...  I'm more concerned that pretty much all the major European festivals have now announced their line-ups for 2025 and when was the last time PJ did a Euro tour with no festivals?

That's not to say it couldn't happen - there seems to be an opportunity based on the US tour wrapping in May - but it would have to be a little different from their normal touring pattern if it was going to happen.

BV84003

stones said:

drfox said:

whereamigoin said:

Have they ever announced a tour , and then more dates to that tour at a later stage ? 

I’m hoping the berlin and London cancelled shows will be rescheduled . 

It’s unusual this tour is spread over two years and not all shows have been announced at once so who knows whats coming next . 

These 5 shows they have just announced in April / May leaves me wondering if something in Europe is comming next . They always seem to play Europe in June / July. The door is still open for summer  ……🤔

I’m still hoping but feels unlikely given the lack of rumours

For me it's not so much the lack of Euro rumours that's a concern - I feel like until a few weeks ago there wasn't really any solid rumours for this US Spring tour, that seemed to come together very fast...  I'm more concerned that pretty much all the major European festivals have now announced their line-ups for 2025 and when was the last time PJ did a Euro tour with no festivals?

That's not to say it couldn't happen - there seems to be an opportunity based on the US tour wrapping in May - but it would have to be a little different from their normal touring pattern if it was going to happen.

I'm not sure how economically feasible it would be for them to just do a quick run over for London and Berlin makeups, but that could be an option. You're right that festivals would help to offset that, so it might not be until 2026

pjl44

RatherStarved said:

pjl44 said:

BF25394 said:

pjl44 said:

BF25394 said:

pjl44 said:

estarr31 said:

DragonsAfter3or4 said:

Have fun all. For 185 bucks a pop for Nashville before even fees.. I'm good. Appears my 30 plus years of concerts are a comin to an end. 

Hopefully Bourbon and Beyond has a good lineup this year. If not...so be it.

Funny, I saw $185 and thought, damn that's not bad

It's more than reasonable for an arena show nowadays but that says more about arena show ticket prices nowadays 

It's also not "before fees"-- it includes fees. It's before taxes, which can be anywhere from non-existent to a few dollars.

(At least assuming it works like the 2024 shows.)

I made a submission after I posted that and yeah the taxes threw me. We are officially at 197/ticket.

It depends on the show. Last year, the Inglewood shows (L.A.) had only $1.10 in taxes added whereas the Vegas shows had over $14.50 in tax added. So a $185 ticket was $186.10 for L.A. but $199.58 for L.V.

Very interesting. I had no idea this was a thing. Just checked my Fenway emails from last year and no taxes.

Wasn’t there a tea party in that town once upon a time? Old habits, y’know?

It's true. They probably know better.

pjl44

HailHailVitalogy said:

Sorry busy day, just catching up. At 342xxx from 2004 I’m putting in for all shows except Nashville (have tickets for Jack White in Denver). Don’t think my number is bad enough to get uppers, and the reward for winning GA is too great. Unless premiums are pushing us even further back.

But, grouping uppers with P1 is ridiculous….so is allowing the ability to win both Hard Rock shows. However, I like the $99 option for the last few rows of the uppers…step in the right direction.  

Edit: @aisleseats I couldn’t select both ga/reserved and reserved. Just one, never seen that before. Anyone else notice that 

I like them grouping uppers and lowers together. Anything that works as a disincentive to flooding entries with new accounts is a positive in my book.

BV84003

pbultimate said:

CopperTom said:

pjl44 said:

marcPJfan said:

RatherStarved said:

MG14345 said:

PJNB said:

Wonder how many in the pit for Hollywood 

What I found.

Are you suggesting the total capacity is then 13,634?

No.  

The new 225,000 square foot venue can welcome 6,600 patrons in standard configuration and up to 7,034 in General Admission set up.

That makes more sense but it's worded weirdly 

So 6,600 seats, 434 GA, 7,034 total capacity.

Math is hard/wrong. Seats are coming out to allow GA. 

This. The pit can hold 811 seated, or 1,245 GA.

RatherStarved

gotthebottle said:

julieooliern said:

If I requested tickets in the Ten Club Presale can I also sign up for the Artist Presale that happens on December 13?

Yes. Everyone is encouraged to sign up for the Artist Presale for an additional opportunity to shop for tickets. This sale will take place after all Ten Club ticket requests have been processed. You can sign up for the Artist Presale any time before Tuesday, December 10 at 10 a.m. PT.

Question, (see above)TM recommends in their FAQs for 10C members to also request tickets through the Artist Presale to increase odds of getting tickets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

ARTIST PRESALE = PLAIN OLD BUYING ON TM

Don't let the new name confuse you. This is just the old get in the queue with 50k others and wait your turn. If people don't sign up they won't be let in. 

We’ve disagreed on things before but I fully agree with this.  First time for everything! 

Get_Right

RatherStarved said:

gotthebottle said:

julieooliern said:

If I requested tickets in the Ten Club Presale can I also sign up for the Artist Presale that happens on December 13?

Yes. Everyone is encouraged to sign up for the Artist Presale for an additional opportunity to shop for tickets. This sale will take place after all Ten Club ticket requests have been processed. You can sign up for the Artist Presale any time before Tuesday, December 10 at 10 a.m. PT.

Question, (see above)TM recommends in their FAQs for 10C members to also request tickets through the Artist Presale to increase odds of getting tickets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

ARTIST PRESALE = PLAIN OLD BUYING ON TM

Don't let the new name confuse you. This is just the old get in the queue with 50k others and wait your turn. If people don't sign up they won't be let in. 

We’ve disagreed on things before but I fully agree with this.  First time for everything! 

And they dump the worst seats during presales IMHO.

pdalowsky

whereamigoin said:

Have they ever announced a tour , and then more dates to that tour at a later stage ? 

I’m hoping the berlin and London cancelled shows will be rescheduled . 

It’s unusual this tour is spread over two years and not all shows have been announced at once so who knows whats coming next . 

These 5 shows they have just announced in April / May leaves me wondering if something in Europe is comming next . They always seem to play Europe in June / July. The door is still open for summer  ……🤔

It seems massively doubtful at the moment. There isnt a whiff of credible info from the usual sources so they are either keeping a massively tight lid on plans or it isnt happening this time. 

Im holding out hope for later in the year.....breaking the usual cycle - as you just never know but then again a European tour in the winter would be an odd choice given our weather absolutely sucks then. 

steven87

I missed like 500 posts and am far too lazy to go back and read them. What’s the latest on the Canada rumors?

RatherStarved

steven87 said:

I missed like 500 posts and am far too lazy to go back and read them. What’s the latest on the Canada rumors?

Basically nobody knows if it’s happening.  

matt84

JABK said:

Can we now assume that Europe 2025 is not happening?

I would assume not. Hopefully summer 2026.

flanosmasseur

If this has been discussed already, I apologize. But CAN or CAN'T you sign up for both shows in a given city? I want to go to both Nashville shows but I didn't see an option on the initial request page to pick more than one show. So, I signed up for the 5/6 show. Then, when I went to request the 5/8 show, there's a pop-up that says you already have a request submitted (and the option to cancel your last request). I'm sure I'm missing something, but wanted to how others put in for both nights.

PJINFLA

gotthebottle said:

julieooliern said:

If I requested tickets in the Ten Club Presale can I also sign up for the Artist Presale that happens on December 13?

Yes. Everyone is encouraged to sign up for the Artist Presale for an additional opportunity to shop for tickets. This sale will take place after all Ten Club ticket requests have been processed. You can sign up for the Artist Presale any time before Tuesday, December 10 at 10 a.m. PT.

Question, (see above)TM recommends in their FAQs for 10C members to also request tickets through the Artist Presale to increase odds of getting tickets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

ARTIST PRESALE = PLAIN OLD BUYING ON TM

Don't let the new name confuse you. This is just the old get in the queue with 50k others and wait your turn. If people don't sign up they won't be let in. 

However it appears with the artist presale everyone who signs up at least gets an opportunity to try for tickets unlike Verified Fan where you had to get selected to try for tickets. I realize the odds are slim to none but I don't recall ever getting selected for VF for any show ever so this gives the appearance of a chance to buy tickets.

JimmyV

flanosmasseur said:

If this has been discussed already, I apologize. But CAN or CAN'T you sign up for both shows in a given city? I want to go to both Nashville shows but I didn't see an option on the initial request page to pick more than one show. So, I signed up for the 5/6 show. Then, when I went to request the 5/8 show, there's a pop-up that says you already have a request submitted (and the option to cancel your last request). I'm sure I'm missing something, but wanted to how others put in for both nights.

You request both shows at once. In the same request. Cancel your original and create a second request for both shows. 

dmbolp

CopperTom said:

pjl44 said:

marcPJfan said:

RatherStarved said:

MG14345 said:

PJNB said:

Wonder how many in the pit for Hollywood 

What I found.

Are you suggesting the total capacity is then 13,634?

No.  

The new 225,000 square foot venue can welcome 6,600 patrons in standard configuration and up to 7,034 in General Admission set up.

That makes more sense but it's worded weirdly 

So 6,600 seats, 434 GA, 7,034 total capacity.

6,600 when all seated, the Pit area looks to have about 500 seats.  Remove those seats in the Pit (now you have 6,100 non Pit seats), sell twice as many Pit tickets as seats removed (500 x 2 = 1,000) and you now have a ~7,000 people seated and in the Pit 

gotthebottle

PJINFLA said:

gotthebottle said:

julieooliern said:

If I requested tickets in the Ten Club Presale can I also sign up for the Artist Presale that happens on December 13?

Yes. Everyone is encouraged to sign up for the Artist Presale for an additional opportunity to shop for tickets. This sale will take place after all Ten Club ticket requests have been processed. You can sign up for the Artist Presale any time before Tuesday, December 10 at 10 a.m. PT.

Question, (see above)TM recommends in their FAQs for 10C members to also request tickets through the Artist Presale to increase odds of getting tickets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

ARTIST PRESALE = PLAIN OLD BUYING ON TM

Don't let the new name confuse you. This is just the old get in the queue with 50k others and wait your turn. If people don't sign up they won't be let in. 

However it appears with the artist presale everyone who signs up at least gets an opportunity to try for tickets unlike Verified Fan where you had to get selected to try for tickets. I realize the odds are slim to none but I don't recall ever getting selected for VF for any show ever so this gives the appearance of a chance to buy tickets.

That's what I said.. Everyone who signs up by deadline will have chance to buy... no more codes... but still an ungodly number of people will be on queue

flanosmasseur

JimmyV said:

flanosmasseur said:

If this has been discussed already, I apologize. But CAN or CAN'T you sign up for both shows in a given city? I want to go to both Nashville shows but I didn't see an option on the initial request page to pick more than one show. So, I signed up for the 5/6 show. Then, when I went to request the 5/8 show, there's a pop-up that says you already have a request submitted (and the option to cancel your last request). I'm sure I'm missing something, but wanted to how others put in for both nights.

You request both shows at once. In the same request. Cancel your original and create a second request for both shows. 

Was able to figure it out. Anyone think there's an advantage in "prioritizing" your selection order? i.e..having 5/8 listed as Request 1 and 5/6 listed as Request 2? I know back before TM got involved, you could rack-and-stack your requests based on submission percentages, but that's no longer the case. I guess it probably doesn't matter nowadays...you still have the same chances of winning no matter the order.

steven87

flanosmasseur said:

JimmyV said:

flanosmasseur said:

If this has been discussed already, I apologize. But CAN or CAN'T you sign up for both shows in a given city? I want to go to both Nashville shows but I didn't see an option on the initial request page to pick more than one show. So, I signed up for the 5/6 show. Then, when I went to request the 5/8 show, there's a pop-up that says you already have a request submitted (and the option to cancel your last request). I'm sure I'm missing something, but wanted to how others put in for both nights.

You request both shows at once. In the same request. Cancel your original and create a second request for both shows. 

Was able to figure it out. Anyone think there's an advantage in "prioritizing" your selection order? i.e..having 5/8 listed as Request 1 and 5/6 listed as Request 2? I know back before TM got involved, you could rack-and-stack your requests based on submission percentages, but that's no longer the case. I guess it probably doesn't matter nowadays...you still have the same chances of winning no matter the order.

Nope- they took prioritization out of it unfortunately, which I hate. At least with prioritization, in most cases, you had a decent shot at scoring GA or at least seats to the show that you ranked as #1. But now it’s just a completely randomized lottery for each show- it’s a total crapshoot. I hope they fixed the issue of a disproportionate number of people winning GA to both nights of a two-night stand in high-demand cities (e.g., Philly and Seattle on the last tour). It appeared that the way they ran the lottery last time, it was done on a city by city basis, instead of a show by show basis.  If you win GA for one night, you should be disqualified from winning it for the other night to spread the love. But I’m not holding my breath. I suspect that just like last time, we’ll see some people win 10 GAs, while others get shut out entirely.  

mpedone

flanosmasseur said:

JimmyV said:

flanosmasseur said:

If this has been discussed already, I apologize. But CAN or CAN'T you sign up for both shows in a given city? I want to go to both Nashville shows but I didn't see an option on the initial request page to pick more than one show. So, I signed up for the 5/6 show. Then, when I went to request the 5/8 show, there's a pop-up that says you already have a request submitted (and the option to cancel your last request). I'm sure I'm missing something, but wanted to how others put in for both nights.

You request both shows at once. In the same request. Cancel your original and create a second request for both shows. 

Was able to figure it out. Anyone think there's an advantage in "prioritizing" your selection order? i.e..having 5/8 listed as Request 1 and 5/6 listed as Request 2? I know back before TM got involved, you could rack-and-stack your requests based on submission percentages, but that's no longer the case. I guess it probably doesn't matter nowadays...you still have the same chances of winning no matter the order.

It only accepts your most recent request. There's no way to prioritize a show anymore, other than entering the lottery for one show and waiting for the pre-sale/F2F for another. It's all or none now.