I'm wondering what those 1-2 albums will sound like. I haven't even heard DM yet. A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world
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Originally, I read this as sort of sarcasm. He didn't say we ONLY have 1 or 2 left. I sort of heard it like, "yeah, we still have fuel in the tank, this new album is evidence of that" and his "The goal is to keep making music" quote furthers that.
The 2nd of the 2 would come out around age 70. It would make sense.
That was my first thought. 4-6 years between albums, 2 more is kind of optimistic actually. Right after Gigaton the shutdown happened. I was assuming they'd get creative and write a bunch and have a new album quicker with nothing else to do. I doubt I was alone in that, and still took 4 years.
Originally, I read this as sort of sarcasm. He didn't say we ONLY have 1 or 2 left. I sort of heard it like, "yeah, we still have fuel in the tank, this new album is evidence of that" and his "The goal is to keep making music" quote furthers that.
Although I could just be projecting.
Exactly. He’s just spitballing. Thinking out loud.
People read these quotes and take literally? I would hate to hang on anything these guys say about the future at their age. Just assume every record and tour is the last at this point and move forward with your life. Whatever else we get is icing.
Definitely not anything to take at face value. I agree, he was just spitballing/thinking out loud. He didn't actually mean they have plans. They could have no more albums ever again for all we or they know at this point. Or they could have several more in the future. They could start cranking one out every year like Neil Young - just throw everything at the wall to see what sticks, lol.
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I thought he said "1 or 2 good ones left", meaning they'll keep releasing as the normally have but a couple of them might hold up well with the most loved earlier records.
I would say shut it down versus release new music below the standard. The bad stuff devalues the good stuff. Hearing SBWM, Never Destination, etc…. reminds me of when you learn your parents aren’t perfect or don’t know everything.
I would say shut it down versus release new music below the standard. The bad stuff devalues the good stuff. Hearing SBWM, Never Destination, etc…. reminds me of when you learn your parents aren’t perfect or don’t know everything.
Who decides what’s “below the standard”? You? I like SBWM, I enjoy the late-period albums for what they are. And never once have I been playing Tremor Christ and thought “man this just sounds awful since Alright was released”.
If you don’t like the new stuff you don’t have to play it but why should those of us who enjoy it have to give it up?
I would say shut it down versus release new music below the standard. The bad stuff devalues the good stuff. Hearing SBWM, Never Destination, etc…. reminds me of when you learn your parents aren’t perfect or don’t know everything.
Why would the bad stuff devalue the good stuff? It’s not like an aging baseball player whose rate stats go down if they’re bad the last few years of their career. The good stuff just stays… good.
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Think of the last Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, or Tom Petty albums. I think PJ can do at least that level.
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"Leaving while at the top" is a train that has left the station, at least as far as I am concerned. I don't think PJ has anything to lose reputation wise with continuing on, even with poor albums coming in the future. Dark Matter is not the start of this potential trend. It's a great one!
"Leaving while at the top" is not a new concept. The Beatles did it. Seinfeld did it. Barry Sanders did it.
Totally get the concept of more music the better. Just making conversation.
I didn't know the Beatles called it quits after Revolver. If you meant Let it be - it's far from their best record. A great last hurray, but Rubber Soul, Revolver, Help and the White Album were way better.
"Leaving while at the top" is not a new concept. The Beatles did it. Seinfeld did it. Barry Sanders did it.
Totally get the concept of more music the better. Just making conversation.
I didn't know the Beatles called it quits after Revolver. If you meant Let it be - it's far from their best record. A great last hurray, but Rubber Soul, Revolver, Help and the White Album were way better.
And Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and Abbey Road, which both came after all of the albums you mentioned (except Let It Be) are better than all of them.
Re: the earlier post, Seinfeld had its biggest audience in its final season, but its last two seasons without Larry David were not its creative peak (although it was still very funny).
"Leaving while at the top" is not a new concept. The Beatles did it. Seinfeld did it. Barry Sanders did it.
Totally get the concept of more music the better. Just making conversation.
I didn't know the Beatles called it quits after Revolver. If you meant Let it be - it's far from their best record. A great last hurray, but Rubber Soul, Revolver, Help and the White Album were way better.
And Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and Abbey Road, which both came after all of the albums you mentioned (except Let It Be) are better than all of them.
Re: the earlier post, Seinfeld had its biggest audience in its final season, but its last two seasons without Larry David were not its creative peak (although it was still very funny).
100%. Each character just became more of a caricature of themselves and it did not work for me.
"Leaving while at the top" is not a new concept. The Beatles did it. Seinfeld did it. Barry Sanders did it.
Totally get the concept of more music the better. Just making conversation.
I didn't know the Beatles called it quits after Revolver. If you meant Let it be - it's far from their best record. A great last hurray, but Rubber Soul, Revolver, Help and the White Album were way better.
And Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and Abbey Road, which both came after all of the albums you mentioned (except Let It Be) are better than all of them.
Re: the earlier post, Seinfeld had its biggest audience in its final season, but its last two seasons without Larry David were not its creative peak (although it was still very funny).
100%. Each character just became more of a caricature of themselves and it did not work for me.
Except Jerry. Jerry was still Jerry. And Newman still managed to steal every scene he was in. I swear I don't think there's a single Newman scene in that show where Wayne Knight didn't completely crush it.
I do still enjoy Seasons 8 and 9, but the caricatures are a little more off-putting, and there are a lot of huge plot holes.
"Leaving while at the top" is not a new concept. The Beatles did it. Seinfeld did it. Barry Sanders did it.
Totally get the concept of more music the better. Just making conversation.
I didn't know the Beatles called it quits after Revolver. If you meant Let it be - it's far from their best record. A great last hurray, but Rubber Soul, Revolver, Help and the White Album were way better.
Abbey Road was the last album they recorded. Let it Be was recorded prior to, but released after.
"Leaving while at the top" is not a new concept. The Beatles did it. Seinfeld did it. Barry Sanders did it.
Totally get the concept of more music the better. Just making conversation.
I didn't know the Beatles called it quits after Revolver. If you meant Let it be - it's far from their best record. A great last hurray, but Rubber Soul, Revolver, Help and the White Album were way better.
And Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and Abbey Road, which both came after all of the albums you mentioned (except Let It Be) are better than all of them.
Re: the earlier post, Seinfeld had its biggest audience in its final season, but its last two seasons without Larry David were not its creative peak (although it was still very funny).
100%. Each character just became more of a caricature of themselves and it did not work for me.
Except Jerry. Jerry was still Jerry. And Newman still managed to steal every scene he was in. I swear I don't think there's a single Newman scene in that show where Wayne Knight didn't completely crush it.
I do still enjoy Seasons 8 and 9, but the caricatures are a little more off-putting, and there are a lot of huge plot holes.
The Beatles didn't leave on their best record, but they were still the most highly revered and popular band on the planet when they broke up. They also broke up as music was really changing which was the right time for them to call it a day. A decent Beatles album was still better than just about anything in 1969/1970.
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Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
MSG 1 + 2 - '03
Boston Garden - '04
Montreal - '05
Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
Mansfield 1 - '08
(EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
Chicago 1 - '09
MSG -'10
Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
Central Park - '15
MSG - '16
Fenway - '16
Wrigley - '16
(RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
Fenway - '18
MSG - '22
Although I could just be projecting.
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I like SBWM, I enjoy the late-period albums for what they are. And never once have I been playing Tremor Christ and thought “man this just sounds awful since Alright was released”.
Totally get the concept of more music the better. Just making conversation.
Re: the earlier post, Seinfeld had its biggest audience in its final season, but its last two seasons without Larry David were not its creative peak (although it was still very funny).
I do still enjoy Seasons 8 and 9, but the caricatures are a little more off-putting, and there are a lot of huge plot holes.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert