12 VARIANTS FOR THE 12TH PEARL JAM ALBUM

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  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    Here’s my Boston!
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  • kramerica4
    kramerica4 Posts: 284
    The Boston variant is just amazing!
    So glad I bought a copy of this beauty.
  • Sirens4
    Sirens4 Posts: 622
    Tim Simmons said:
    Oh wow. 10c Red is a different cut from the regional variants. 
    Where do you see this? On the etchings? I have not checked mine but my Boston variant is very bright sounding compared to red/black 10c version.
    Springfield 94 hartford 96,98,06,08 xl center 2010,2013 boston 06,2010 mansfield ma 1998,2000,2003,2008
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    Just posted this in another thread




    OK. I AB'd my Chicago variant (CZ) and my 10c Red variant (Furnace)

    I'm assuming they both use the same digital master to cut, and it shows. The highly compressed sound for the album still comes across on both vinyl. 

    Both LPs were cleaned ultrasonically before playing. Because thye were new, I just an 8 min cycle on my Degritter. Both got new antistatic sleeves before being played. Both were played on my VPI HW-19, Grado Gold cart through a vintage Marantz 2020. Polk bookshelf (Solid low end, decent mids, great highs). No knobs were touched for this comparison (Volume remained constant. I keep my Bass at a 7, Mids at a 9 and highs at an 8) 

    The differences: 

    (pressing quality) The CZ pressing has a touch noisier surface. even after the cleaning. Some static remains. Pretty normal for a CZ pressing (if the label doesn't pay up for the better quality). The furnace wasn't dead quiet but it was difficult to pick up surface noise. No pops on either. Didn't weigh them, but it felt like the CZ was a touch heavier. Both have different dead wax. The messages are the same, but Furnace is hand carved and CZ is a digital etching.

    (Sound) The Furnace had a very nice low end. Jeffs bass and the bass drum kinda rip on this. Unfortunately, the offset to that is that its makes it have a murkier over all sound. The CZ seems a bit more crisp in the sound. The offset to that is that it comes across as a bit thin. I'm chalking both of these up to the master being not great. Maybe if the furnace were spread across 2 LPs, that murkiness would go away with more space to cut. Neither had great instrument separation. The quieter songs and parts sounded better. Highs better on the CZ, lows better on the Furnace.

    I saw some chatter about the last track Setting Sun, pushing the limits for time on the B-side. My first spin last week of the CZ pressing I noticed the IGD immediately. The compressed sound on the master certainly doesn't help things either. The furnace pressing minimizes the IGD. The cut is better at keeping that IGD static down. Again, its still there, but its less noticeable than the CZ pressing.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    Sirens4 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Oh wow. 10c Red is a different cut from the regional variants. 
    Where do you see this? On the etchings? 
    Yeah, the deadwax. The messages are the same, one is just hand written (Furnace/10c Red) and the other is a digital carving (Regional variants/CZ)
  • Sirens4
    Sirens4 Posts: 622
    Tim Simmons said:
    Sirens4 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Oh wow. 10c Red is a different cut from the regional variants. 
    Where do you see this? On the etchings? 
    Yeah, the deadwax. The messages are the same, one is just hand written (Furnace/10c Red) and the other is a digital carving (Regional variants/CZ)
    My Boston is hand written? 
    Springfield 94 hartford 96,98,06,08 xl center 2010,2013 boston 06,2010 mansfield ma 1998,2000,2003,2008
  • Sirens4
    Sirens4 Posts: 622
    Sirens4 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Sirens4 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Oh wow. 10c Red is a different cut from the regional variants. 
    Where do you see this? On the etchings? 
    Yeah, the deadwax. The messages are the same, one is just hand written (Furnace/10c Red) and the other is a digital carving (Regional variants/CZ)
    My Boston is hand written? 
    Sirens4 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Sirens4 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Oh wow. 10c Red is a different cut from the regional variants. 
    Where do you see this? On the etchings? 
    Yeah, the deadwax. The messages are the same, one is just hand written (Furnace/10c Red) and the other is a digital carving (Regional variants/CZ)
    My Boston is hand written? 

    Springfield 94 hartford 96,98,06,08 xl center 2010,2013 boston 06,2010 mansfield ma 1998,2000,2003,2008
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    Huh. Upon closer inspection it guess the cubs one is hand carved. Good handwriting 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,545
    10c is definitely different. It has Matt @ Metropolis carved into it and it’s big handwriting (compared to the CZ pressings)
  • mickf29
    mickf29 Posts: 36
    Anyone see these at any of your stores? When I picked up the PNW green vinyl, they gave me a couple of these. Funny they only had a handful of vinyls in stock, but had plenty of patches! Gave me two.


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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    mickf29 said:
    Anyone see these at any of your stores? When I picked up the PNW green vinyl, they gave me a couple of these. Funny they only had a handful of vinyls in stock, but had plenty of patches! Gave me two.



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  • runstaples
    runstaples WY/NC Posts: 1,065
    10 club version came in the mail!


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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    runstaples said:
    10 club version came in the mail!


    😳 
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,287
    runstaples said:
    10 club version came in the mail!




  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,287
    https://instagram.com/p/C6MfDukJ3OU/embed/


  • pjbugs007
    pjbugs007 Posts: 1,352
    Chi-town Variant.
  • Imcoffeegirl
    Imcoffeegirl Posts: 380
    pjbugs007 said:
    Chi-town Variant.
    STUNNING! 
  • jonbond1779
    jonbond1779 London, UK Posts: 1,642
    pjbugs007 said:
    Chi-town Variant.
    Def in my top 3 - RSD, Vegas and this....

    "Bring it back, to the clean form. To the pure form"

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  • PJammer4life
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    Worst nightmare. USPS sent PNW destroyed and warped.

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  • mickf29
    mickf29 Posts: 36
    PJammer4life said:
    Worst nightmare. USPS sent PNW destroyed and warped.

    At least they apologized. 
    1995 Club Moe w/Neil Young Seattle WA
    1996 Key Arena Seattle WA
    2000 Mesa Del Sol Albuquerque
    2005 Gorge Amphitheater WA
    2005 Clark County Amphitheater Portland OR (Vancouver WA)
    2006 Arlene Schnitzer Hall Portland OR
    2008 Susquehanna Bank Center Camden NJ
    2009 Outside Lands Golden Gate Park SF CA
    2011 Ottawa w Mudhoney
    2014 Big Day Out Gold Coast Australia
    2022 Ohana Festival Dana Point CA
    2024 Portland Moda Center
    2024 Missoula Grizzly Stadium

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