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12 VARIANTS FOR THE 12TH PEARL JAM ALBUM

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    nicky-p38nicky-p38 Posts: 397
    wwsuicide said:
    ISO Boston and the 2 Internationals.  Held off on this project until 10C started selling.  Guess I need to finish em now!
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    Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,575
    Loujoe said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Many times it's about your set up. I read complaints all of the time about different pressings sounding "bad", and then I play my copy and it sounds fine. That person could also not know how to properly set up their turntable.
    Indeed. Some of the variants still sound a bit muddy, but with the new setup, its hardly noticeable. 

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    WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,306
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 
    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

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    LostRebelLostRebel Athens, Greece Posts: 255
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 

    EU black and clear are pressed at Pallas. 
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    WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,306
    LostRebel said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 

    EU black and clear are pressed at Pallas. 
    My clear bought from Universal in Germany has a Made in Czech sticker….
    https://pearljam.universal-music.de/p51-i0602465233483/pearl-jam/dark-matter/index.html


    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

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    LostRebelLostRebel Athens, Greece Posts: 255
    LostRebel said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 

    EU black and clear are pressed at Pallas. 
    My clear bought from Universal in Germany has a Made in Czech sticker….
    https://pearljam.universal-music.de/p51-i0602465233483/pearl-jam/dark-matter/index.html


    that's a logical assumption. But what about the record stamper matrix code?
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,063
    Yeah, I need to see the deadwax from a EU clear or black. 
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    kramerica4kramerica4 Posts: 284
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
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    WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,306
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

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    ImcoffeegirlImcoffeegirl Posts: 251
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    "Fun"😆... My eye twitched a few times trying to get Philly. If only I knew I could have just waited for the shop here to get them in. Sigh. But glad they're here for anyone who wasn't able to get them from local shops. 
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    wwsuicidewwsuicide Posts: 1,326
    Hope to see the internationals get put up!
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    LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 8,395
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    "Fun"😆... My eye twitched a few times trying to get Philly. If only I knew I could have just waited for the shop here to get them in. Sigh. But glad they're here for anyone who wasn't able to get them from local shops. 
    True. But if you waited they prob wouldn't show up here. Ya know...
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    al162928al162928 Italy Posts: 7
    some infos about the pressing quantities ?
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    ImcoffeegirlImcoffeegirl Posts: 251
    Loujoe said:
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    "Fun"😆... My eye twitched a few times trying to get Philly. If only I knew I could have just waited for the shop here to get them in. Sigh. But glad they're here for anyone who wasn't able to get them from local shops. 
    True. But if you waited they prob wouldn't show up here. Ya know...
    100%😆😆😆
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 89,196
    I am complete! B)


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    KwynnKwynn Posts: 10
    demetrios said:
    I am complete! B)


    Congrats!
    2003 Missoula, MT
    2005 The Gorge Amphitheatre, WA
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 89,196
    Kwynn said:
    demetrios said:
    I am complete! B)


    Congrats!

    Thanks! Big help from Mr A! :)




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    timbo1972timbo1972 Posts: 320
    Full house of vinyl here, plus the cd’s and a download:) … wasn’t going to bother but once I picked up a couple from rsd and 10C…. Well… 
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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,978
    Interesting looking at the shop filtered by best selling: Crystal Clear, New York, Chicago, Las Vegas, Seattle/PNW, Philadelphia, California, Boston, Missoula. 

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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,034
    Here’s my New York variant 
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    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
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    rb173565rb173565 Posts: 106
    demetrios said:
    I am complete! B)


    Excellent! :-)
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    hadfiiwhadfiiw Posts: 195
    I am almost there.  Just missing the "International" Black/Red/Yellow. Hoping 10C will have it in the shop soon. 
    - ian | www.lukin.com

    96 - Charlotte / Charleston
    98 - Atlanta
    00 - Charlotte / Greensboro / Atlanta
    03 - Raleigh / Charlotte / Mountain View / San Diego / Bristow
    04 - Asheville
    05 - Philadelphia
    06 - Washington, DC / Las Vegas / San Diego
    08 - Virginia Beach / Washington DC
    09 - Philadelphia (28th)
    10 - Bristow
    11 - East Troy (3rd) / East Troy (4th)
    13 - Charlottesville / Charlotte
    14 - Memphis
    16 - Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Boston (5th)
    18 - Boston (2nd) / Boston (4th)
    20 - NashvilleBaltimore
    22 - Nashville / Baltimore
    24 - Las Vegas (16th) / Las Vegas (18th) / Baltimore
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    wwsuicidewwsuicide Posts: 1,326
    hadfiiw said:
    I am almost there.  Just missing the "International" Black/Red/Yellow. Hoping 10C will have it in the shop soon. 
    https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/pearl-jam-dark-matter/hnum/11804114

    I ordered here. 
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    hadfiiwhadfiiw Posts: 195
    wwsuicide said:
    hadfiiw said:
    I am almost there.  Just missing the "International" Black/Red/Yellow. Hoping 10C will have it in the shop soon. 
    https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/pearl-jam-dark-matter/hnum/11804114

    I ordered here. 

    Thanks!!  Ordered.

    - ian | www.lukin.com

    96 - Charlotte / Charleston
    98 - Atlanta
    00 - Charlotte / Greensboro / Atlanta
    03 - Raleigh / Charlotte / Mountain View / San Diego / Bristow
    04 - Asheville
    05 - Philadelphia
    06 - Washington, DC / Las Vegas / San Diego
    08 - Virginia Beach / Washington DC
    09 - Philadelphia (28th)
    10 - Bristow
    11 - East Troy (3rd) / East Troy (4th)
    13 - Charlottesville / Charlotte
    14 - Memphis
    16 - Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Boston (5th)
    18 - Boston (2nd) / Boston (4th)
    20 - NashvilleBaltimore
    22 - Nashville / Baltimore
    24 - Las Vegas (16th) / Las Vegas (18th) / Baltimore
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