To really get to the bottom of this...need to compare Vancouver results (which seem truly more random) vs. US results.
Agree - and for those that think I'm just all sour grapes over here, I went 0-2 for GA in Vancouver just as my fiancé did. But the mixed results of the Vancouver drawing seem truly random, unlike those of LA, Vegas, Seattle and Chicago.
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For Vegas both nights GA For Phila. both nights P1 For NYC both nights no email so far
Sorry my response doesn't fit the poll, but will feed into the conspiracy theories.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13; WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Take my results and try to apply the 2 GA per 2 show city theory and see what you can come up with
Portland P1 seats Sacramento GA Vegas 1 GA Vegas 2 P1 seats LA 1 P1 seats LA 2 P1 seats Seattle 1 P1 seats (did not put in for Seattle 2) Philly 1&2 shutout
Looks like all possible scenarios except the 2 GA theory
It wasn't just GA theory. It is about the amount/ percentage of people getting the same result for each show in the same city. There are still results coming in today, so don't give up hope on Philly. But also expect Philly demand to be more than the rest of the other multi show cities (sans NYC). With that, your results seem true to random foe the 2 Vegas shows. Absolutely in the minority. For LA, I suspect you were automatically going to recieve Reserved for LA 2 once you recieved Reserved for LA 1.
I totally get the amount of multiple GA winners for the same city is kind of odd considering there's less GA tickets available than seats. In regards to drawing 2 of P1 reserved for the same city (LA) my guess is after I lost GA for that city and was considered for P1 seats, if I won P1 seats for 1 of the 2 shows maybe the system gave priority to that same entry for night 2. So the same logic could be applied for anyone getting GA for 1 of the 2 shows and they will get priority for the 2nd night in the same city. Just my gut feeling maybe that was the "logic" behind it. I feel for everyone that got shut out. I know how I would feel if I was in their shoes. Thankfully there's still more chances to get tickets public sale and especially F2F has been really good in the past so there's always hope of getting really good seats via F2F. I did not select the option of P2 seating for any of my entries I don't think it would have made any difference though.
As of right now, I am 1-4. Didn't get MSG or night 1 Philly just night 2. I don't expect to get anything else based on previous years experiences
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So, I put in for a lot. I rarely ever put in for GA -- I don't like to spend my day waiting in line, and we're not getting any younger. I think in some cities I put down GA and P1, but not ballpark shows and definitely not Philly. I didn't put in for P2 because, TBH, I'm afraid of heights.
Vancouver P1 2/2
LA P1 2/2
Seattle P1 1/2 (missed night 2)
Chicago P1 2/2
Philly P1 2/2
Boston P1 2/2
MSG P1 0/2
I requested a pair of tickets in all cases.
I didn't expect to get anything for MSG. I've had at best mediocre luck with lotteries before, so I was pleasantly surprised to get as many shows as I did.
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Only entered Wrigley...clicked both boxes for both nights (both GA/P1 and P1 only) and got GA both shows
Chicago - 6/29/98
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16 Wrigley - 8/18/18 Wrigley - 8/20/18 St. Louis - 9/18/22 St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23 St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23 Chicago 1 - 9/5/23 Chicago 2 - 9/7/23 Wrigley - 8/29/24 Wrigley - 8/31/24
My wife and I both entered for both night of Vegas, I got pulled for P1 for both, she got blanked. What's extra odd is I have two friends that did the same exact thing - they both got pulled for P1 for both and both of their wives accounts got blanked on both as well.... just way beyond random IMHO. How with 6 accounts all putting in for the same exact thing end up with 3 accounts getting both pulled for P1 for both shows and the other 3 get pulled for nothing. I get that it's possible, but just insanely improbable if truly random.
Entered Philly and NYC for both shows got neither. Although I did not put P2 for either Philly or NY. Figured I could get tix in other ways and didn't want to sit in rafters. Will see how Verified Fan goes. But got Wrigley and Fenway where I only put 1 show each for those 2.
Tried for GA/Reserved P1 to both Wrigley shows and received Reserved P1 for both.
these will be my 2nd and 3rd PJ shows and all at Wrigley Field; last show was Night 2 8/20/2018 who I went with my sister who had never seen them live either.
These two shows will be two first timers going with me.
My wife and I both entered for both night of Vegas, I got pulled for P1 for both, she got blanked. What's extra odd is I have two friends that did the same exact thing - they both got pulled for P1 for both and both of their wives accounts got blanked on both as well.... just way beyond random IMHO. How with 6 accounts all putting in for the same exact thing end up with 3 accounts getting both pulled for P1 for both shows and the other 3 get pulled for nothing. I get that it's possible, but just insanely improbable if truly random.
If you were at a roulette table and it hit on red five spins out of six, would you think "this is insanely improbable and this wheel must favor red numbers"? Or would you think "this is a small sample size and doesn't mean that if they spun the wheel 6,000 times it would come up red 5,000 times"?
Put another way, randomness will almost certainly not be evident in a sample size of six. Thus, it is unsound to draw conclusions about randomness from such a small sample.
Entered Philly and NYC for both shows got neither. Although I did not put P2 for either Philly or NY. Figured I could get tix in other ways and didn't want to sit in rafters. Will see how Verified Fan goes. But got Wrigley and Fenway where I only put 1 show each for those 2.
All these people talking about getting rejected and how many didn't pick all the options, even though the website specifically said you'd get better odds by picking all the options. If I get good seats for one show and nosebleeds for another show (like Radiohead in 2018), I mean it's still a great experience! The only bad thing is if you're not in a 10C area because you're sitting with jabronis who don't know any songs that weren't on the radio. But in this case P2 is still 10C seating.
Anyway just my opinion. We all got 'em. Good luck pjh. Hope we can hang out.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13; WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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Double Seated in Fenway (I would say this is to be expected that most people are double seated)
Won MSG 2 - Reserved P2
Lost MSG 1
For Phila. both nights P1
For NYC both nights no email so far
Sorry my response doesn't fit the poll, but will feed into the conspiracy theories.
WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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2015: Global Citizen Festival
2016: Philly 1, Philly 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Fenway 2
2018: Fenway 1, Fenway 2
2024: MSG 2, Philly 1, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2
Veags
LA
Lost Both
Seattle
NY
Philly
I was picked for P2 at MSG.
I was picked for a P1 for Philly N1, and also got GA for Philly N2.
these were also the only shows i didnt get p1 or GA
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16
Wrigley - 8/18/18
Wrigley - 8/20/18
St. Louis - 9/18/22
St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23
St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23
Chicago 1 - 9/5/23
Chicago 2 - 9/7/23
Wrigley - 8/29/24
Wrigley - 8/31/24
98' - 6/26, 6/27, 6/29, 8/26, 9/22
03' - 4/25
06' - 6/29, 6/30
07' - 8/05
09' - 8/23
11' - 9/03, 9/04
12' - 9/30
13' - 7/16, 7/19, 10/21, 10/22, 11/15, 11/16, 12/06
14' - 06/28, 06/29, 10/1, 10/03, 10/16, 10/17, 10/20, 10/22
15' - 11/20, 11/22
16' - 4/21, 4/26, 4/28, 4/29, 5/1, 5/2, 7/9, 8/5, 8/7, 8/20, 8/22
17' - 4/7
18' - 7/1, 7/3, 7/5, 8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20, 9/4
21' - 10/1, 10/2
22' - 7/12, 7/14, 9/6, 9/8
these will be my 2nd and 3rd PJ shows and all at Wrigley Field; last show was Night 2 8/20/2018 who I went with my sister who had never seen them live either.
These two shows will be two first timers going with me.
Put another way, randomness will almost certainly not be evident in a sample size of six. Thus, it is unsound to draw conclusions about randomness from such a small sample.
Another one 10-10
Anyway just my opinion. We all got 'em. Good luck pjh. Hope we can hang out.
WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16