Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

BF25394

JV48469 said:

My request for pit tixs in Los Angeles was denied.  I'm upset to see that membership doesn't get priority.  Ticket prices up and membership prices up, I feel there's no incentive of continuing to pay my membership fees.

Membership does get priority. If you weren't a member, you would never have been given the opportunity to buy tickets before the general public who are not members. That is priority. What membership doesn't provide, and has never provided, is a guarantee that you will receive tickets in the lottery.

Membership prices are not necessarily up. There used to be a two-tiered pricing system. Analog membership was $40 per year; digital membership was $20 a year. For many members, the $35 annual fee is lower than it was when they were paying $40 a few years ago.

PJ_Soul

I would just like to show visually what $208 got me with 10C vs what $208 got me in the verified fan sale (I am around 480,xxx):

10C (literally the worst seat in the whole arena as far as I'm concerned, which is almost impressive in its shittiness, lol):

Vs. Verified Fan (SAME PRICE):

I mean, come on. That's a bit ridiculous, is it not? I don't understand why that really good standard priced ticket wouldn't have been assigned to a 10C member. Of course, I'm thrilled to have snagged it, but it does seems pretty unfair to 10C members. Now, for all I know, 10C bartered to have standard priced tickets in such good sections but were denied getting them as 10C tix... but why would that be?? If TM did such a thing, it would start looking malicious, since it doesn't bring in any more money for anyone.

mookieb14

BF25394 said:

JV48469 said:

My request for pit tixs in Los Angeles was denied.  I'm upset to see that membership doesn't get priority.  Ticket prices up and membership prices up, I feel there's no incentive of continuing to pay my membership fees.

Membership does get priority. If you weren't a member, you would never have been given the opportunity to buy tickets before the general public who are not members. That is priority. What membership doesn't provide, and has never provided, is a guarantee that you will receive tickets in the lottery.

Membership prices are not necessarily up. There used to be a two-tiered pricing system. Analog membership was $40 per year; digital membership was $20 a year. For many members, the $35 annual fee is lower than it was when they were paying $40 a few years ago.

And that came with a physical newsletter, vinyl, and tshirt.  At some point acknowledging that the fan club is not what it used to be is obvious.  Even to yourself.  

YourDirtisMyfood

Unless I'm missing something, the first photo looks like it's 12:00 center to the stage while the verified seat looks off to the side.  Maybe I'm missing something w/the photo, not sure.

PJ_Soul

YourDirtisMyfood said:

Unless I'm missing something, the first photo looks like it's 12:00 center to the stage while the verified seat looks off to the side.  Maybe I'm missing something w/the photo, not sure.

Are you referring to my post? If so... are you suggesting that back of the floor is better than right next to the pit just because it faces the stage straight on? I've never heard that viewpoint before, lol. Very interesting. But anyway, that isn't how 10C operates. It is very clear that 10C works on the theory that closer is necessarily better, which is why I'm back of the floor while someone with a way, way higher number than me is about 10 rows up behind me in the 100 level, which is a far better seat because they'll actually be able to see things. It also explains why I'm seeing some European members and baseball park goers upset that they have obstructed side stage views, realizing that 10C just thought "great, close to the stage." So that means my original point about 10C seat assignments vs standard verified fan tix stands.

BF25394

mookieb14 said:

BF25394 said:

JV48469 said:

My request for pit tixs in Los Angeles was denied.  I'm upset to see that membership doesn't get priority.  Ticket prices up and membership prices up, I feel there's no incentive of continuing to pay my membership fees.

Membership does get priority. If you weren't a member, you would never have been given the opportunity to buy tickets before the general public who are not members. That is priority. What membership doesn't provide, and has never provided, is a guarantee that you will receive tickets in the lottery.

Membership prices are not necessarily up. There used to be a two-tiered pricing system. Analog membership was $40 per year; digital membership was $20 a year. For many members, the $35 annual fee is lower than it was when they were paying $40 a few years ago.

And that came with a physical newsletter and tshirt.  At some point acknowledging that the fan club is not what it used to be is obvious.  Even to yourself.  

Well, I never placed any value on the T-shirt, and the newsletter rarely has any particularly interesting or special content. And $40 in 2019 would be worth $48 today. Is that T-shirt and newsletter worth 13 bucks? Not to me.

I don't know what you're wanting me to acknowledge. I don't have a problem paying 35 bucks a year for, among other things, the right to try for really good tickets to see the band live. That opportunity has given me the chance to see the band many times where I otherwise would not have been able to. This membership has so overperformed what I've paid for it that, if I paid dues for the next 20 years and they never toured again, I will have gotten my money's worth.

PJ_Soul

I mostly pay $48CAD/year to be able to post in the forum, lol. And of course access to 10C-exclusive vinyl. The membership fee is the least of my worries.

mwplum

PJ_Soul said:

I would just like to show visually what $208 got me with 10C vs what $208 got me in the verified fan sale (I am around 480,xxx):

10C (literally the worst seat in the whole arena as far as I'm concerned, which is almost impressive in its shittiness, lol):

Vs. Verified Fan (SAME PRICE):

I mean, come on. That's a bit ridiculous, is it not? I don't understand why that really good standard priced ticket wouldn't have been assigned to a 10C member. Of course, I'm thrilled to have snagged it, but it does seems pretty unfair to 10C members. Now, for all I know, 10C bartered to have standard priced tickets in such good sections but were denied getting them as 10C tix... but why would that be?? If TM did such a thing, it would start looking malicious, since it doesn't bring in any more money for anyone.

Agreed, for anyone sub-6’2”you’d better off on the side (even behind) stage than anywhere behind row 15 on the floor. I have a similar # to you and am floor row 28 (and trying to upgrade)

mookieb14

According to 10club the tee is worth $20 plus shipping alone. I’ve been in the club nearly 30 years and I too have gotten my dues back and then some.  I don’t think anyone can argue that the value of membership has continued to decrease over the years.  

aisleseats

YourDirtisMyfood said:

Unless I'm missing something, the first photo looks like it's 12:00 center to the stage while the verified seat looks off to the side.  Maybe I'm missing something w/the photo, not sure.

Having sat in that area many times, I can definitively say that his verified seat is one of the best in the house. His 10c seat is one of the worst, unless he happens to be 7ft tall.

BF25394

mookieb14 said:

According to 10club the tee is worth $20 plus shipping alone. I’ve been in the club nearly 30 years and I too have gotten my dues back and then some.  I don’t think anyone can argue that the value of membership has continued to decrease over the years.  

Well, that settles it. You've declared that no one can argue it, so it must be true that no one can argue it even though people here are arguing it. One might even argue that, in a world of dynamic pricing and bots scooping up tickets as soon as they are released so that they can be placed on the secondary market, the value of the membership and its member-exclusive ticket lottery is greater than it's ever been, but I guess I can't argue that because you've already ruled that such a thing cannot be argued.

schaefferlax

Any word on f2f?

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

I would just like to show visually what $208 got me with 10C vs what $208 got me in the verified fan sale (I am around 480,xxx):

10C (literally the worst seat in the whole arena as far as I'm concerned, which is almost impressive in its shittiness, lol):

Vs. Verified Fan (SAME PRICE):

I mean, come on. That's a bit ridiculous, is it not? I don't understand why that really good standard priced ticket wouldn't have been assigned to a 10C member. Of course, I'm thrilled to have snagged it, but it does seems pretty unfair to 10C members. Now, for all I know, 10C bartered to have standard priced tickets in such good sections but were denied getting them as 10C tix... but why would that be?? If TM did such a thing, it would start looking malicious, since it doesn't bring in any more money for anyone.

I might be in the minority but I would take your 10C over your VF. I do not like that side stage 90 degree view. Had a pretty similar ticket for MSG in 2016. I much prefer floor level and looking straight on even if it's the last row of the floor.

iwasatpj20

schaefferlax said:

Any word on f2f?

Sometime in spring

PJ_Soul

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I would just like to show visually what $208 got me with 10C vs what $208 got me in the verified fan sale (I am around 480,xxx):

10C (literally the worst seat in the whole arena as far as I'm concerned, which is almost impressive in its shittiness, lol):

Vs. Verified Fan (SAME PRICE):

I mean, come on. That's a bit ridiculous, is it not? I don't understand why that really good standard priced ticket wouldn't have been assigned to a 10C member. Of course, I'm thrilled to have snagged it, but it does seems pretty unfair to 10C members. Now, for all I know, 10C bartered to have standard priced tickets in such good sections but were denied getting them as 10C tix... but why would that be?? If TM did such a thing, it would start looking malicious, since it doesn't bring in any more money for anyone.

I might be in the minority but I would take your 10C over your VF. I do not like that side stage 90 degree view. Had a pretty similar ticket for MSG in 2016. I much prefer floor level and looking straight on even if it's the last row of the floor.

I'd prefer to not look straight on at the back of people's heads. You really can't see shit from the back of the floor no matter what the angle is. Plus, I feel that it is very much preferable to also have a view of the pit. Also, that isn't a 90 degree angle.

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I would just like to show visually what $208 got me with 10C vs what $208 got me in the verified fan sale (I am around 480,xxx):

10C (literally the worst seat in the whole arena as far as I'm concerned, which is almost impressive in its shittiness, lol):

Vs. Verified Fan (SAME PRICE):

I mean, come on. That's a bit ridiculous, is it not? I don't understand why that really good standard priced ticket wouldn't have been assigned to a 10C member. Of course, I'm thrilled to have snagged it, but it does seems pretty unfair to 10C members. Now, for all I know, 10C bartered to have standard priced tickets in such good sections but were denied getting them as 10C tix... but why would that be?? If TM did such a thing, it would start looking malicious, since it doesn't bring in any more money for anyone.

I might be in the minority but I would take your 10C over your VF. I do not like that side stage 90 degree view. Had a pretty similar ticket for MSG in 2016. I much prefer floor level and looking straight on even if it's the last row of the floor.

I'd prefer to not look straight on at the back of people's heads. You really can't see shit from the back of the floor no matter what the angle is. Plus, I feel that it is very much preferable to also have a view of the pit. Also, that isn't a 90 degree angle.

Lol ok 86.5 degrees. Different strokes, etc.

cutz

aisleseats said:

YourDirtisMyfood said:

Unless I'm missing something, the first photo looks like it's 12:00 center to the stage while the verified seat looks off to the side.  Maybe I'm missing something w/the photo, not sure.

Having sat in that area many times, I can definitively say that his verified seat is one of the best in the house. His 10c seat is one of the worst, unless he happens to be 7ft tall.

 Not sure how the 10C doesn't know that they are some of the worst seats in any Venue. 

@PJ_Soul
Congrats on the upgrade. I know that is a better location then the one you got from the 10C.

Zod

My buddy got back of the floor too.  I completely agree they're the worst seats in the house.  Not because of distance from stage, but because of how when your on a level surface, the angle to the stage gets lower and lower the further back you are.  I'm 6'2, and I cant seem much after row 20 or 25 on a floor.    Row 36 or 37 is a no go.

Not only that but he's taking one of our friend's that's never seen PJ. I'm hoping we can pull seat upgrades from them on fan2fan.

I'm also sad, I saw all those side stage tickets for night 2, and I kept glitching, most likely because my works VPN doesn't work well with TM. 

Chrrie

BF25394 said:

mookieb14 said:

According to 10club the tee is worth $20 plus shipping alone. I’ve been in the club nearly 30 years and I too have gotten my dues back and then some.  I don’t think anyone can argue that the value of membership has continued to decrease over the years.  

Well, that settles it. You've declared that no one can argue it, so it must be true that no one can argue it even though people here are arguing it. One might even argue that, in a world of dynamic pricing and bots scooping up tickets as soon as they are released so that they can be placed on the secondary market, the value of the membership and its member-exclusive ticket lottery is greater than it's ever been, but I guess I can't argue that because you've already ruled that such a thing cannot be argued.

Honestly I’d pay the $35 if all it did was give me a chance to win the MSG lottery and nothing else, because I really don’t want to pay some other 10c person on StubHub who’s really cashing in on their membership 

HMW820

Got 2 tickets for golden circle in Auckland Nov 8. Said confirmed, card been charged, will get another email to view/access tickets before April 1. Charge appeared on my credit card, was pending then disappeared. Called the bank, said wasn't them. Charge wasn't accepted/processed by merchant (Ticketmaster) in 7 days so it ghosted. Have tried to contact Ticketmaster support and Ten Club as well, no reply from either after 4 days. Has anyone else had this issue ?