$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
I think its less that and more the fact a band's revenue is mostly ticket sales and less album sales than it used to be. I know inflation is high, but it hasn't risen as fast as ticket prices have from 20 years ago My first concert in college was AC/DC in 2000, paid $23 for that ticket. Was an amazing show. I used to see Better than Ezra a few times a year for $20 during the 2000s. I remember passing up some great bands because I didn't want to pay around $60 at the time. Bands I wish I saw like U2 and RHCP. But now the norm is to pay more for tickets. They know people are willing to pay more for live music, so they charge more, I don't blame anyone, if I had a business I'd maximize my profits too.
$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
I think its less that and more the fact a band's revenue is mostly ticket sales and less album sales than it used to be. I know inflation is high, but it hasn't risen as fast as ticket prices have from 20 years ago My first concert in college was AC/DC in 2000, paid $23 for that ticket. Was an amazing show. I used to see Better than Ezra a few times a year for $20 during the 2000s. I remember passing up some great bands because I didn't want to pay around $60 at the time. Bands I wish I saw like U2 and RHCP. But now the norm is to pay more for tickets. They know people are willing to pay more for live music, so they charge more, I don't blame anyone, if I had a business I'd maximize my profits too.
Great point. Although I bet they more than make up for it with all their merch. Gotta think that's how they make all their money. Low overhead. Huge volume
$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
I think its less that and more the fact a band's revenue is mostly ticket sales and less album sales than it used to be. I know inflation is high, but it hasn't risen as fast as ticket prices have from 20 years ago My first concert in college was AC/DC in 2000, paid $23 for that ticket. Was an amazing show. I used to see Better than Ezra a few times a year for $20 during the 2000s. I remember passing up some great bands because I didn't want to pay around $60 at the time. Bands I wish I saw like U2 and RHCP. But now the norm is to pay more for tickets. They know people are willing to pay more for live music, so they charge more, I don't blame anyone, if I had a business I'd maximize my profits too.
Great point. Although I bet they more than make up for it with all their merch. Gotta think that's how they make all their money. Low overhead. Huge volume
Yeah, concert shirts are ridiculous. $40+ for a t-shirt that probably cost $2 to make.
$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
I think its less that and more the fact a band's revenue is mostly ticket sales and less album sales than it used to be. I know inflation is high, but it hasn't risen as fast as ticket prices have from 20 years ago My first concert in college was AC/DC in 2000, paid $23 for that ticket. Was an amazing show. I used to see Better than Ezra a few times a year for $20 during the 2000s. I remember passing up some great bands because I didn't want to pay around $60 at the time. Bands I wish I saw like U2 and RHCP. But now the norm is to pay more for tickets. They know people are willing to pay more for live music, so they charge more, I don't blame anyone, if I had a business I'd maximize my profits too.
That's an economic theory called price discovery. Ideally you price your good so supply = demand so you can sell all of your good. The challenge is you're not usually clairvoyant and know what that price is. So you keep increasing the price until demand starts to drop off.
Apparently in the concert industry we still haven't hit that point. Will we hit that point? How much are the masses (even people with the disposable) able/willing to pay. I've been astonished that the demand doesn't seem to abate. We all love concerts so much
$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
I think its less that and more the fact a band's revenue is mostly ticket sales and less album sales than it used to be. I know inflation is high, but it hasn't risen as fast as ticket prices have from 20 years ago My first concert in college was AC/DC in 2000, paid $23 for that ticket. Was an amazing show. I used to see Better than Ezra a few times a year for $20 during the 2000s. I remember passing up some great bands because I didn't want to pay around $60 at the time. Bands I wish I saw like U2 and RHCP. But now the norm is to pay more for tickets. They know people are willing to pay more for live music, so they charge more, I don't blame anyone, if I had a business I'd maximize my profits too.
That's an economic theory called price discovery. Ideally you price your good so supply = demand so you can sell all of your good. The challenge is you're not usually clairvoyant and know what that price is. So you keep increasing the price until demand starts to drop off.
Apparently in the concert industry we still haven't hit that point. Will we hit that point? How much are the masses (even people with the disposable) able/willing to pay. I've been astonished that the demand doesn't seem to abate. We all love concerts so much
A large part of this problem is the perception that Stubhub is the place to buy tickets. Especially in the younger generation, they don’t even know ticketmaster exists! They either just Google tickets for a specific concert and one of the resale places come up at the top of the list so they click it, or they go directly to Stubhub because it has(d) a reputation of a place to get good deals on tickets. I went through this with my daughter when she would tell me about a show and then say how much tickets were and i’d go look and find way cheaper ones on Ticketmaster. But i even know adults as well who skip TM and go straight to aftermarket, see the price and either pay it or decide it’s too much and don’t go, without looking into other options.
$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
I think its less that and more the fact a band's revenue is mostly ticket sales and less album sales than it used to be. I know inflation is high, but it hasn't risen as fast as ticket prices have from 20 years ago My first concert in college was AC/DC in 2000, paid $23 for that ticket. Was an amazing show. I used to see Better than Ezra a few times a year for $20 during the 2000s. I remember passing up some great bands because I didn't want to pay around $60 at the time. Bands I wish I saw like U2 and RHCP. But now the norm is to pay more for tickets. They know people are willing to pay more for live music, so they charge more, I don't blame anyone, if I had a business I'd maximize my profits too.
That's an economic theory called price discovery. Ideally you price your good so supply = demand so you can sell all of your good. The challenge is you're not usually clairvoyant and know what that price is. So you keep increasing the price until demand starts to drop off.
Apparently in the concert industry we still haven't hit that point. Will we hit that point? How much are the masses (even people with the disposable) able/willing to pay. I've been astonished that the demand doesn't seem to abate. We all love concerts so much
A large part of this problem is the perception that Stubhub is the place to buy tickets. Especially in the younger generation, they don’t even know ticketmaster exists! They either just Google tickets for a specific concert and one of the resale places come up at the top of the list so they click it, or they go directly to Stubhub because it has(d) a reputation of a place to get good deals on tickets. I went through this with my daughter when she would tell me about a show and then say how much tickets were and i’d go look and find way cheaper ones on Ticketmaster. But i even know adults as well who skip TM and go straight to aftermarket, see the price and either pay it or decide it’s too much and don’t go, without looking into other options.
I've run into that a few times with work events and colleagues. No idea they'd bought marked up reseller tickets.
I forget sometimes that we grew up with the evolution of ticketing the rise of TM. Most of us going to concerts for decades know the ins and outs.
Concerts are more expensive now. Thats just a reality. Perspective, I've seen tix start at $250-300 more recently for artists/bands nowhere close to PJ. In comparison $175 isn't that bad.
Concerts are more expensive now. Thats just a reality. Perspective, I've seen tix start at $250-300 more recently for artists/bands nowhere close to PJ. In comparison $175 isn't that bad.
Exactly. Creed tickets were like $300 for pit. I had to laugh. RHCP, Green Day, Blink 182 were all that much or higher
Concerts are more expensive now. Thats just a reality. Perspective, I've seen tix start at $250-300 more recently for artists/bands nowhere close to PJ. In comparison $175 isn't that bad.
Exactly. Creed tickets were like $300 for pit. I had to laugh. RHCP, Green Day, Blink 182 were all that much or higher
If it's a pit in front of the stage and its a big band, $300 is very fair. It's charging nearly $200 for junk seats in the upper corner of the 300 level that is a bit much for me.
If it's a pit in front of the stage and its a big band, $300 is very fair. It's charging nearly $200 for junk seats in the upper corner of the 300 level that is a bit much for me.
Exactly the same thing every ticket reseller would say, because there's little chance they'd recover their "investment" and they can't even sell for less. Meanwhile,for the same price you can get pit - but can't sell them for more. This is all part of a larger plan to limit resellers. For me and my family, we'll be OK getting in the door at that price.
Concerts are more expensive now. Thats just a reality. Perspective, I've seen tix start at $250-300 more recently for artists/bands nowhere close to PJ. In comparison $175 isn't that bad.
Exactly. Creed tickets were like $300 for pit. I had to laugh. RHCP, Green Day, Blink 182 were all that much or higher
$185 isn't so bad compared to other bands. Just think all they people they need to pay. Divide their profit by 6. Just skip a few Chipotle burritos and ticket paid for :-) Life if is only going to get more expensive with 35 trillion in debt and counting, 1 trillion in debt payments every year. Unfortunately cost of living only going to get worse
They have to pay a lot more than six people. And the touring band is now seven people anyway, but Boom and Josh are not getting equal shares to the five partners in Pearl Jam Inc.
I'm not sure why you're making a connection between the national debt and cost-of-living increases. The national debt has been on a steady upward trajectory since the 1980s. For most of that period, until the economic disruption caused by COVID, the U.S. generally enjoyed low inflation.
Concerts are more expensive now. Thats just a reality. Perspective, I've seen tix start at $250-300 more recently for artists/bands nowhere close to PJ. In comparison $175 isn't that bad.
Exactly. Creed tickets were like $300 for pit. I had to laugh. RHCP, Green Day, Blink 182 were all that much or higher
$300 US? You're kidding right?!?!
$290 USD with tax. There's a VIP package that's over $1k
Concerts are more expensive now. Thats just a reality. Perspective, I've seen tix start at $250-300 more recently for artists/bands nowhere close to PJ. In comparison $175 isn't that bad.
Exactly. Creed tickets were like $300 for pit. I had to laugh. RHCP, Green Day, Blink 182 were all that much or higher
I believe last time RHCP came through my town pit tix were $500+? Good for them. $175 isn't cheap. But they could charge a significant amount more. If I can get in the pit for that.....I consider that a deal. See U2. See the Eagles. See Adele. See Justin Timberlake. See Springstein. etc etc etc
Look at the cost of some of these VIP experiences. $175 is nothing compared to that.
Given your member name it’s surprising to see so many Islander tickets, especially some from the Cup years. Different type of Ranger? Wow, nice collection!
You highlight the issue perfectly. PJ doesn’t sell tickets for 55 quid. It’s one price fits all, so the upper seats will cost more than other artists. Some regions may see empty sections if this policy continues in the future as prices continue to rise
that’s probably why they added a second cost tier for about the same price. Getting the senior member fans ready to pay significantly more for their legacy seats in the future by having separate lottery categories for the upper/lower deck.
When tickets were $90 we all got a great deal. Now that concerts are so expensive, $175 is too much for upper tickets, and it’s subsidizing the cost of the beat seats and GA , which is what is not “fair.”
Yep - both Blink and the Chilis at fenway were $200 after fees for some mediocre seats. Shit got expensive.
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And then there's maybe "lesser know" artists such as Billy Strings, Richard Thompson, Adrian Belew, Los Lobos etc still charging less than $100. for the most part. Granted the most popular acts can charge and sell out at the high prices. Supply and demand plain and simple. I'm just glad I got to see a lot of my favs before the shit hit the fan. Unfortunately, we can't turn back the clock.
And then there's maybe "lesser know" artists such as Billy Strings, Richard Thompson, Adrian Belew, Los Lobos etc still charging less than $100. for the most part. Granted the most popular acts can charge and sell out at the high prices. Supply and demand plain and simple. I'm just glad I got to see a lot of my favs before the shit hit the fan. Unfortunately, we can't turn back the clock.
Smaller shows have much smaller crews, much less equipment, and much less trucking costs. The overhead is much lower. What makes PJ an expensive show is the premium seating locations and GA fetch almost the same price as the furthest upper level tickets. There are no uppers for $90 for a PJ show (that other bands charge) because their policy has always been same price for all.
And then there's maybe "lesser know" artists such as Billy Strings, Richard Thompson, Adrian Belew, Los Lobos etc still charging less than $100. for the most part. Granted the most popular acts can charge and sell out at the high prices. Supply and demand plain and simple. I'm just glad I got to see a lot of my favs before the shit hit the fan. Unfortunately, we can't turn back the clock.
Smaller shows have much smaller crews, much less equipment, and much less trucking costs. The overhead is much lower. What makes PJ an expensive show is the premium seating locations and GA fetch almost the same price as the furthest upper level tickets. There are no uppers for $90 for a PJ show (that other bands charge) because their policy has always been same price for all.
Oh I get what you and others have said about the various reasons why and everyone is right. I try and rationalize paying for premium seats, I'll never bite. As long as I'm in the venue (within reason) I'm happy. As long as there is demand for premium seats, they'll be offered. PJ won't be touring forever, and neither will I. A few years back I balked on seeing Jeff Beck because tickets were over 200.Back then it was way above the average. I regretted it ever since. If you're going to any of the shows, I know you'll have a ball. With any luck, Ill be going to a couple myself. Cheers!
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Let's see how much TM charge for PJ standing tickets when general release go on sale next week
My first concert in college was AC/DC in 2000, paid $23 for that ticket. Was an amazing show. I used to see Better than Ezra a few times a year for $20 during the 2000s.
I remember passing up some great bands because I didn't want to pay around $60 at the time. Bands I wish I saw like U2 and RHCP.
But now the norm is to pay more for tickets. They know people are willing to pay more for live music, so they charge more,
I don't blame anyone, if I had a business I'd maximize my profits too.
Apparently in the concert industry we still haven't hit that point. Will we hit that point? How much are the masses (even people with the disposable) able/willing to pay. I've been astonished that the demand doesn't seem to abate. We all love concerts so much
I forget sometimes that we grew up with the evolution of ticketing the rise of TM. Most of us going to concerts for decades know the ins and outs.
- Main Pitch Standing: £115
- Front Pitch Standing: £130
- Seats: £55 - £145
These were the actual prices.So how about that perspective?
I'm not sure why you're making a connection between the national debt and cost-of-living increases. The national debt has been on a steady upward trajectory since the 1980s. For most of that period, until the economic disruption caused by COVID, the U.S. generally enjoyed low inflation.
$290 USD with tax. There's a VIP package that's over $1k
Look at the cost of some of these VIP experiences. $175 is nothing compared to that.
that’s probably why they added a second cost tier for about the same price. Getting the senior member fans ready to pay significantly more for their legacy seats in the future by having separate lottery categories for the upper/lower deck.
When tickets were $90 we all got a great deal. Now that concerts are so expensive, $175 is too much for upper tickets, and it’s subsidizing the cost of the beat seats and GA , which is what is not “fair.”
2004 Boston I
2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Boston I, Boston II
2018 Boston I, Boston II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 Boston I, Boston II