Dark Matter World Tour 2024

johanypma

Just bought a GA for Barcelona without any ticketmaster code. I did not participate in the 10C lottery as I was a bit disappointed about the No GA only option, but now I will be flying from Amsterdam to Barcelona to see one show this year. Another highlight after U2 at the Sphere two weeks ago!

troubledsoulsuniteblog

Mhemm11 said:

Just a heads up that TM usually releases additional tickets as the show gets closer.  They hold some back to drive up the demand early on.  They also screw the premium ticket holders who are trying to get rid of their tickets by offering better tickets at half of what the premium holders paid.  I have seen TM put tickets at half the price of the original premium person right next to or in front of them in order for the TM tickets to get sold and screw the original premium holder.  I scored tickets to MSG and Camden in 2022 a few days before the shows at around standard face value or a little bit more.  it is just a pain to stalk TM in the days before the show so you will need some patience.

This! 
I actually don't think it has anything to do with driving up demand. I think TM has to reserve certain numbers of tickets for the band and their family and friends, and likely for others with relationships with Ticketmaster, the venue, etc. When those aren't claimed, TM releases them back into the wild.
I scored lower bowl tickets for United Center N2 last year about 2 hours prior to the show. Same price I paid for my 10C N1 tickets up in the rafters.

schaefferlax

I am stoked to hear Dark Matter live

troubledsoulsuniteblog

AcapulcoGold

Mhemm11 said:

Just a heads up that TM usually releases additional tickets as the show gets closer.  They hold some back to drive up the demand early on.  They also screw the premium ticket holders who are trying to get rid of their tickets by offering better tickets at half of what the premium holders paid.  I have seen TM put tickets at half the price of the original premium person right next to or in front of them in order for the TM tickets to get sold and screw the original premium holder.  I scored tickets to MSG and Camden in 2022 a few days before the shows at around standard face value or a little bit more.  it is just a pain to stalk TM in the days before the show so you will need some patience.

This dude here is doing the lords work!!! Waited a little while and went back and seats through MLB site were CONSIDERABLY lower!!! Got my 4 pack and will see all you cats in Chi-Town!!

ooba Fox

I think I may have lost my 10club Auckland tickets.! Money in account visa, but transaction declined notification from the bank. Been 6 days since money was withdrawn for Melbourne but they never charged my card for Auckland even although the successful email said they charged my card the amount. Anyone else in Australia had the same issue?

mohall

So... looking at the tour schedule and knowing that Pearl Jam, as a whole band, haven't played Ohana Fest in a few years, do you think we'll see them add a date for Ohana?

Blue tango

Wow. I had my code for the general Ticketmaster and premier sale this mornin for the 5/22 Forum show. Seats two over from the fan club tickets I had last time around were $950. Each. Seats up in the higher side areas were about $500 each. I paid about $250 last time for the fan club lottery ones that were 14th row.

I'll be watching this one from fan videos. The crappy part is that my 13 year old really wanted to see them for his first concert. But you can't win 'em all.

chalon

Out of curiosity did anyone get off the waitlist for multiple shows? I got access to one of the shows I wanted but still waiting on the other…

Fortytwo42

I got into the general registration this morning, but ended up being 2,500 + in line, so tickets were all $700 and up each by the time I cleared the queue. Any advice for scoring tickets later on? Do PJ fans end up selling some closer to show date? I last saw PJ in 1996 and would love to see them again. 

lpbailey

November 1995 - Ticket to Pearl Jam in San Jose, CA: $21.50 plus $2.45 service charge

Nov. 1995 - Gas in California - ~$1.21/gallon

May 2022 - Ticket to PJ in Oakland, CA: $103 GA Pit via Ten Club  ~4.5X

May 2022 - Gas in California - $4.77/gallon  ~4X

February 2024 - Ticket to PJ in Sacramento (2022 Sac. was cancelled): $185 for 2/3 of the way up the lower section near the back of the floor via Ten Club.  Floor tickets (standing, not Pit) available right now in "PJ Premium" presale: $861

Feb. 2024 - Gas in California: $4.47/gallon

WTF happened?!?  How do I get GA Pit through Ten Club 2 years ago for 3 shows (2 cancelled by the band) in Northern California and now my Ten Club gets me some really average at best seats and yet, I'm almost happy about not getting Pit this time because my card would have just been charged, I don't know, $1,800 for two tickets I guess.  As much as live music has been a part of my life and I would see a show weekly if I could, I don't need to ever spend that much money to see live music.  And at least I got what I got through Ten Club because Ticketmaster is slow rolling releases of ticket blocks in the PJ presale as we speak and the tickets around mine are going for $460.  Each.

Does this mean 2023/2024 is the year concerts became an activity for the rich?  I just wanted to take my mom to see PJ once, as I have for 15 years (they just don't play Northern California, except for Bridge School, can't help but think Ed is still angry because X didn't get as good a reception from the crowd as he thought they should have when they opened for PJ in Sacramento in 1998) and be close to the stage.  Oh well.  At least we're going, even if it's binocular territory.  At least I saw all the shows I did when it wasn't like this.  I am truly sorry for fans of PJ or anyone else who are under the age of 25 or 30 that this is your normal.  It just makes me sad this is where we're at with the band I respected for so many years for trying to make sure their fans got first and best access.

schaefferlax

lpbailey said:

November 1995 - Ticket to Pearl Jam in San Jose, CA: $21.50 plus $2.45 service charge

Nov. 1995 - Gas in California - ~$1.21/gallon

May 2022 - Ticket to PJ in Oakland, CA: $103 GA Pit via Ten Club  ~4.5X

May 2022 - Gas in California - $4.77/gallon  ~4X

February 2024 - Ticket to PJ in Sacramento (2022 Sac. was cancelled): $185 for 2/3 of the way up the lower section near the back of the floor via Ten Club.  Floor tickets (standing, not Pit) available right now in "PJ Premium" presale: $861

Feb. 2024 - Gas in California: $4.47/gallon

WTF happened?!?  How do I get GA Pit through Ten Club 2 years ago for 3 shows (2 cancelled by the band) in Northern California and now my Ten Club gets me some really average at best seats and yet, I'm almost happy about not getting Pit this time because my card would have just been charged, I don't know, $1,800 for two tickets I guess.  As much as live music has been a part of my life and I would see a show weekly if I could, I don't need to ever spend that much money to see live music.  And at least I got what I got through Ten Club because Ticketmaster is slow rolling releases of ticket blocks in the PJ presale as we speak and the tickets around mine are going for $460.  Each.

Does this mean 2023/2024 is the year concerts became an activity for the rich?  I just wanted to take my mom to see PJ once, as I have for 15 years (they just don't play Northern California, except for Bridge School, can't help but think Ed is still angry because X didn't get as good a reception from the crowd as he thought they should have when they opened for PJ in Sacramento in 1998) and be close to the stage.  Oh well.  At least we're going, even if it's binocular territory.  At least I saw all the shows I did when it wasn't like this.  I am truly sorry for fans of PJ or anyone else who are under the age of 25 or 30 that this is your normal.  It just makes me sad this is where we're at with the band I respected for so many years for trying to make sure their fans got first and best access.

Real answer to this question: everything has been commoditized and corporate greed has been allowed to run rampant with zero recourse. Sick world we live in and it is definitely not limited to concert tickets. Normal people are getting squeezed out of leisure activities that used to be accessible to the middle class. Another example: ski lift tickets

enddem

schaefferlax said:

lpbailey said:

November 1995 - Ticket to Pearl Jam in San Jose, CA: $21.50 plus $2.45 service charge

Nov. 1995 - Gas in California - ~$1.21/gallon

May 2022 - Ticket to PJ in Oakland, CA: $103 GA Pit via Ten Club  ~4.5X

May 2022 - Gas in California - $4.77/gallon  ~4X

February 2024 - Ticket to PJ in Sacramento (2022 Sac. was cancelled): $185 for 2/3 of the way up the lower section near the back of the floor via Ten Club.  Floor tickets (standing, not Pit) available right now in "PJ Premium" presale: $861

Feb. 2024 - Gas in California: $4.47/gallon

WTF happened?!?  How do I get GA Pit through Ten Club 2 years ago for 3 shows (2 cancelled by the band) in Northern California and now my Ten Club gets me some really average at best seats and yet, I'm almost happy about not getting Pit this time because my card would have just been charged, I don't know, $1,800 for two tickets I guess.  As much as live music has been a part of my life and I would see a show weekly if I could, I don't need to ever spend that much money to see live music.  And at least I got what I got through Ten Club because Ticketmaster is slow rolling releases of ticket blocks in the PJ presale as we speak and the tickets around mine are going for $460.  Each.

Does this mean 2023/2024 is the year concerts became an activity for the rich?  I just wanted to take my mom to see PJ once, as I have for 15 years (they just don't play Northern California, except for Bridge School, can't help but think Ed is still angry because X didn't get as good a reception from the crowd as he thought they should have when they opened for PJ in Sacramento in 1998) and be close to the stage.  Oh well.  At least we're going, even if it's binocular territory.  At least I saw all the shows I did when it wasn't like this.  I am truly sorry for fans of PJ or anyone else who are under the age of 25 or 30 that this is your normal.  It just makes me sad this is where we're at with the band I respected for so many years for trying to make sure their fans got first and best access.

Real answer to this question: everything has been commoditized and corporate greed has been allowed to run rampant with zero recourse. Sick world we live in and it is definitely not limited to concert tickets. Normal people are getting squeezed out of leisure activities that used to be accessible to the middle class. Another example: ski lift tickets

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MD190661

schaefferlax said:

lpbailey said:

November 1995 - Ticket to Pearl Jam in San Jose, CA: $21.50 plus $2.45 service charge

Nov. 1995 - Gas in California - ~$1.21/gallon

May 2022 - Ticket to PJ in Oakland, CA: $103 GA Pit via Ten Club  ~4.5X

May 2022 - Gas in California - $4.77/gallon  ~4X

February 2024 - Ticket to PJ in Sacramento (2022 Sac. was cancelled): $185 for 2/3 of the way up the lower section near the back of the floor via Ten Club.  Floor tickets (standing, not Pit) available right now in "PJ Premium" presale: $861

Feb. 2024 - Gas in California: $4.47/gallon

WTF happened?!?  How do I get GA Pit through Ten Club 2 years ago for 3 shows (2 cancelled by the band) in Northern California and now my Ten Club gets me some really average at best seats and yet, I'm almost happy about not getting Pit this time because my card would have just been charged, I don't know, $1,800 for two tickets I guess.  As much as live music has been a part of my life and I would see a show weekly if I could, I don't need to ever spend that much money to see live music.  And at least I got what I got through Ten Club because Ticketmaster is slow rolling releases of ticket blocks in the PJ presale as we speak and the tickets around mine are going for $460.  Each.

Does this mean 2023/2024 is the year concerts became an activity for the rich?  I just wanted to take my mom to see PJ once, as I have for 15 years (they just don't play Northern California, except for Bridge School, can't help but think Ed is still angry because X didn't get as good a reception from the crowd as he thought they should have when they opened for PJ in Sacramento in 1998) and be close to the stage.  Oh well.  At least we're going, even if it's binocular territory.  At least I saw all the shows I did when it wasn't like this.  I am truly sorry for fans of PJ or anyone else who are under the age of 25 or 30 that this is your normal.  It just makes me sad this is where we're at with the band I respected for so many years for trying to make sure their fans got first and best access.

Real answer to this question: everything has been commoditized and corporate greed has been allowed to run rampant with zero recourse. Sick world we live in and it is definitely not limited to concert tickets. Normal people are getting squeezed out of leisure activities that used to be accessible to the middle class. Another example: ski lift tickets

The problem is there are enough people willing and able to pay the prices for concert and skiing and even plane tickets that those selling at those prices have no incentive to charge less. Supply and demand coupled with strong FOMO, esp since Covid and you have crazy prices for all fun things and crazy crowds at everything. 

schaefferlax

schaefferlax said:

lpbailey said:

November 1995 - Ticket to Pearl Jam in San Jose, CA: $21.50 plus $2.45 service charge

Nov. 1995 - Gas in California - ~$1.21/gallon

May 2022 - Ticket to PJ in Oakland, CA: $103 GA Pit via Ten Club  ~4.5X

May 2022 - Gas in California - $4.77/gallon  ~4X

February 2024 - Ticket to PJ in Sacramento (2022 Sac. was cancelled): $185 for 2/3 of the way up the lower section near the back of the floor via Ten Club.  Floor tickets (standing, not Pit) available right now in "PJ Premium" presale: $861

Feb. 2024 - Gas in California: $4.47/gallon

WTF happened?!?  How do I get GA Pit through Ten Club 2 years ago for 3 shows (2 cancelled by the band) in Northern California and now my Ten Club gets me some really average at best seats and yet, I'm almost happy about not getting Pit this time because my card would have just been charged, I don't know, $1,800 for two tickets I guess.  As much as live music has been a part of my life and I would see a show weekly if I could, I don't need to ever spend that much money to see live music.  And at least I got what I got through Ten Club because Ticketmaster is slow rolling releases of ticket blocks in the PJ presale as we speak and the tickets around mine are going for $460.  Each.

Does this mean 2023/2024 is the year concerts became an activity for the rich?  I just wanted to take my mom to see PJ once, as I have for 15 years (they just don't play Northern California, except for Bridge School, can't help but think Ed is still angry because X didn't get as good a reception from the crowd as he thought they should have when they opened for PJ in Sacramento in 1998) and be close to the stage.  Oh well.  At least we're going, even if it's binocular territory.  At least I saw all the shows I did when it wasn't like this.  I am truly sorry for fans of PJ or anyone else who are under the age of 25 or 30 that this is your normal.  It just makes me sad this is where we're at with the band I respected for so many years for trying to make sure their fans got first and best access.

Real answer to this question: everything has been commoditized and corporate greed has been allowed to run rampant with zero recourse. Sick world we live in and it is definitely not limited to concert tickets. Normal people are getting squeezed out of leisure activities that used to be accessible to the middle class. Another example: ski lift tickets

Also, to your last point, I'm 27 and it absolutely blows that this is normal for me. Just have to bite the bullet and convince myself that experiences are worth spending on (which is true, but it's brutal)

schaefferlax

MD190661 said:

schaefferlax said:

lpbailey said:

November 1995 - Ticket to Pearl Jam in San Jose, CA: $21.50 plus $2.45 service charge

Nov. 1995 - Gas in California - ~$1.21/gallon

May 2022 - Ticket to PJ in Oakland, CA: $103 GA Pit via Ten Club  ~4.5X

May 2022 - Gas in California - $4.77/gallon  ~4X

February 2024 - Ticket to PJ in Sacramento (2022 Sac. was cancelled): $185 for 2/3 of the way up the lower section near the back of the floor via Ten Club.  Floor tickets (standing, not Pit) available right now in "PJ Premium" presale: $861

Feb. 2024 - Gas in California: $4.47/gallon

WTF happened?!?  How do I get GA Pit through Ten Club 2 years ago for 3 shows (2 cancelled by the band) in Northern California and now my Ten Club gets me some really average at best seats and yet, I'm almost happy about not getting Pit this time because my card would have just been charged, I don't know, $1,800 for two tickets I guess.  As much as live music has been a part of my life and I would see a show weekly if I could, I don't need to ever spend that much money to see live music.  And at least I got what I got through Ten Club because Ticketmaster is slow rolling releases of ticket blocks in the PJ presale as we speak and the tickets around mine are going for $460.  Each.

Does this mean 2023/2024 is the year concerts became an activity for the rich?  I just wanted to take my mom to see PJ once, as I have for 15 years (they just don't play Northern California, except for Bridge School, can't help but think Ed is still angry because X didn't get as good a reception from the crowd as he thought they should have when they opened for PJ in Sacramento in 1998) and be close to the stage.  Oh well.  At least we're going, even if it's binocular territory.  At least I saw all the shows I did when it wasn't like this.  I am truly sorry for fans of PJ or anyone else who are under the age of 25 or 30 that this is your normal.  It just makes me sad this is where we're at with the band I respected for so many years for trying to make sure their fans got first and best access.

Real answer to this question: everything has been commoditized and corporate greed has been allowed to run rampant with zero recourse. Sick world we live in and it is definitely not limited to concert tickets. Normal people are getting squeezed out of leisure activities that used to be accessible to the middle class. Another example: ski lift tickets

The problem is there are enough people willing and able to pay the prices for concert and skiing and even plane tickets that those selling at those prices have no incentive to charge less. Supply and demand coupled with strong FOMO, esp since Covid and you have crazy prices for all fun things and crazy crowds at everything. 

Agreed, but I'd argue that this is still a result of the middle class disappearing. My point being, back in 2000, maybe the income distribution of fans at a PJ show would have been a normal bell curve. Now I bet that distribution is skewed very heavily to the right

BF25394

lpbailey said:

How do I get GA Pit through Ten Club 2 years ago for 3 shows 

You actually got that ticket four years ago, in 2020, before the show was postponed for two years. In the four years since 2020, there was a pandemic that causes major economic dislocation, including rates of inflation not seen in over forty years. (It also caused great increases in the insurance premiums for live events.) So that's a big part of it.

lpbailey

I agree that ski lift tickets have gotten insane, and if you're only going for a day, it's wildly expensive.  However, you can buy season passes that give you as many days as you can ski at to up to 40+ different ski areas for ~$950.  I wouldn't pay $860 for a floor ticket for PJ but I might pay $860 if I got good seats to every show on the tour.  I definitely would if I lived back east, considering how many more shows they play there.  Anyone who goes to see live music regularly has known how greedy and terrible Ticketmaster is for 30 years plus now.  Now that they merged with LiveNation it's obvious they are sure there are no brakes and they can do whatever they want.  So much for rules against monopolies.

Crazy Out of my Mind

I was going to post earlier not to trust this process. TM is evil. Why trust them with ticket allocation. They like to create panick and do what they can to get rid of their crappy seats. Of course they'd love to take money and give away average to poor seats.

I've been a TC member since 2002. Put in for every tour basically except this year. Will look for tickets closer to the show or via FNF. No way I'd trust TM to give me "best available".  I want to know my seats before I fork over a ton of cash. Although years ago I was very content in trusting the TC as they always gave us the best seats. Not anymore it seems.

I'll hold onto my membership in case the process changes but for now I'll get tickets on my own. 

brstaley

Did anyone else submit for Ten Club pre-sale tickets and not hear either way on if they got them or not?! Since I didn't hear anything I went through the Ticketmaster Fan Registration thing this morning for one of the LA shows and the only tickets left were over $500 or nose bleeds for close to $200. WTF?! So disappointing and what the heck is going on? Isn't this what Pearl Jam was fighting against for so long? What's the point of being in the Fan Club?! Sorry All, there's no where else to complain. Time to cancel my membership. Cheers.